Rivera tbr1-sl and modern rock tone help

[mixohoytian]

Has anyone tried this with a 7 string?
I have a project I need to record coming up that requires that low end modern nu tone
which I'm not a fan of anymore
I got rid of my mesa's last year, so I need to get something unique, hopefully not a rectifier to use for this

it's kind like korn meets incubus

anyways
I used to dig the saigon kick tone
but not sure if those old amps would sound good with a low B string?

 

[OldSkoolNJ]

Awesome I always liked Jason Bieler's sound on the first 2 albums they did..
Back then I actually bought a Rivera Knuckle head partially because he used them when I saw them anyways..

He used that with a Boss Over drive or Super Over drive if I remember right either way it was definitely a boss pedal..

It handled the low end very well but It didn't have enough gain for me and what I was doing..

But I have zero experience with the amp you are asking about

 

[mentoneman]

this

is zachman playing a PEACEMAKER being hit with a duncan evh pickup in an alder strat, to a dynacomp, into a tonebone classic,
into the low sensitivity input,
and the speaker output hits a hotplate on it's way to the dry cab, which sends a line out to the stereo effects rack,

into a mesa 395, into 2 4x12s

 

[mentoneman]

and this

is the same dealio

there is a ton more bass on tap if desired, and using a dropped tuned guitar into this would be crushing.

 

[chunktone]

I've never been impressed with Rivera's high gain tone, and the Peacemaker clips sound great for 80's metal. I'd go with a Diezel Herbert, Bogner Uberschall or an Engl Invader. If you need to go on the cheap, Peavey 6505+ or XXX.

 

[guitarslinger]

I have a TBR2SL.

It doesn't sound numetal at all.

I think bright, bassy, and scooped when I think nu metal.

The TBR2SL is warm, punchy, and thick. LOUD, btw too.


Great amp that would be much more at home in an 80's metal/butt rock/arena rock band.

 

[titanamps]

i have a TBR-2SL that i'm trying to make sound good right now. i play in drop B, and this thing just sounds like dick to me.

 

[guitarslinger]

i have a TBR-2SL that i'm trying to make sound good right now. i play in drop B, and this thing just sounds like dick to me.

It's the only amp that takes me more than ten seconds to dial in.

Put the pickup compensation knob as hot as it can go. I find the compensator pretty usesless.

Also, don't notch the mids very much, it's better to just dial them down with the mids knob itself instead of starting with their version of a scooped voicing.


I wish I could be clearer, but I haven't had a chance to play my tbr2sl in months.

 

[mentoneman]

i had a tbr-1 and used it strictly as a stereo power amp in my rack rig.

although the guy i traded it with to obtain my mesa 395 got a nice sound out of the crunch channel using a gtr with EMGs so apparently it likes hot pickups.

 

[titanamps]

yeah, i did all that gene. i tweaked and tweaked, and was just left unimpressed.

keep in mind that it isn't really suited for the kind of stuff i play, though. i'm sure it's an amazing amp for certain things, but it's not worth a shit at getting a tight, percussive sound, aggressive sound...which is what i need it to do.

i haven't ruled out the possibility of gutting it. i think the whole preamp might need to go...

 

[mixohoytian]

mentoneman, thanks I'll check that out
I've been scared to plug my crappy 7 string into my peacemaker
I'll check tonight (no audio at work)
but I do not believe that 7 strings and marshalls mix
I don't know, could be wrong..
once I got my peacemaker, I changed newer stuff I was working on to work on a 6 string...



the thing is, the tri axis and recitfiers sound right w/ the low B
but the sound is so sterile


Saigon Kick had "nu" low end for the early 90s
drop D
and it sounded somewhere between mesa and marshall..?

anyways, just thought maybe rivera would work
I know the new knuckleheads would do it, but they sound rectifierish to me

thanks for chiming in tbr owners
for some reason I still think if saigon kick went down another 1 1/2 steps, same amp, it would retain it's tone and definition...
guess I'm wrong


I'm going to record w/ a practice amp (old crate) plus a direct signal, then re amp later on through whatever amp I can get

5150's are pretty cheap...they seem to have a nu sound but not mesa sounding..?
that carcass cd heartworks sounded pretty cool w/ 5150

after this project is over, I won't be doing any "nu" sounds again, so i can't be investing in diezels and what not


thanks

 

[mentoneman]

mentoneman, thanks I'll check that out
I've been scared to plug my crappy 7 string into my peacemaker
I'll check tonight (no audio at work)
but I do not believe that 7 strings and marshalls mix
I don't know, could be wrong..
once I got my peacemaker, I changed newer stuff I was working on to work on a 6 string...



the thing is, the tri axis and recitfiers sound right w/ the low B
but the sound is so sterile


Saigon Kick had "nu" low end for the early 90s
drop D
and it sounded somewhere between mesa and marshall..?

anyways, just thought maybe rivera would work
I know the new knuckleheads would do it, but they sound rectifierish to me

thanks for chiming in tbr owners
for some reason I still think if saigon kick went down another 1 1/2 steps, same amp, it would retain it's tone and definition...
guess I'm wrong


I'm going to record w/ a practice amp (old crate) plus a direct signal, then re amp later on through whatever amp I can get

5150's are pretty cheap...they seem to have a nu sound but not mesa sounding..?
that carcass cd heartworks sounded pretty cool w/ 5150

after this project is over, I won't be doing any "nu" sounds again, so i can't be investing in diezels and what not


thanks

i had a triaxis for 7 years and loved it, but compared to a peacemaker, different planets.
i loved dropped D with any mojave amp.

 

[mixohoytian]

mentoneman, you inspired me to get into the coyote, I've been wanting one for a while!
same here
8 or 9 years
all I used was a triaxis and 2:90
and I was able to get tons of flexibility
I felt last year, that my tone just wasn't original..my fingers were, but not my amp

with the peacemaker, my fingers have to work overtime
but I've found my sound

on new original music, I found drop D sounds great on the peacemaker
scared to try any lower

in the past I always wrote on a 7 string, not cause i wanted to be nu metal, just cause I like range
which is why I write mainly on piano now
I don't like being boxed into that low E

yeah the low B can be no better, but I like having access to the C C# D Eb ...

anyways, my 6 string guitars are better quality guitars
so I've come up with weird tunings to compensate for not using the 7 string

and letting the bass do all the lover roots
it's working, just a lot of work.. but the tone is where i want it

 

[Chubtone]

yeah the low B can be no better, but I like having access to the C C# D Eb ...

anyways, my 6 string guitars are better quality guitars
so I've come up with weird tunings to compensate for not using the 7 string

It doesn't sound like your 6 strings are that great of guitars if they don't have C C# D or Eb on them.


Tune down a whole step and do drop C on a 6 string.

 

[mixohoytian]

I mean my 7 string is a piece of crap


I'll try getting down to that C and see how it sounds


thanks



just to clarify, with the peacemaker I won't plug in a 7 string, I prefer to find a way to do it on 6 strings

but for this modern KOrn type recording project I'm doing, I will use the crappy 7 string, cause I'm too lazy to re arrange 5 year old material

and I want to rely on any high gain amp to cover it up

 

[Chubtone]

I mean my 7 string is a piece of crap


I'll try getting down to that C and see how it sounds


thanks



just to clarify, with the peacemaker I won't plug in a 7 string, I prefer to find a way to do it on 6 strings

but for this modern KOrn type recording project I'm doing, I will use the crappy 7 string, cause I'm too lazy to re arrange 5 year old material

and I want to rely on any high gain amp to cover it up

Line 6 Pod.

 

[mixohoytian]

yep

I think I'll be even more modern
and let the producer use guitar amp software
that's
free easy and I can't forget about it