Running 2 amps with g major

[jordanofbirds]

Hey guys I was wondering if anyone here knows if you can run 2 amps at once with a tc electronics g major. I am wondering how I can accomplish this , I would like to be able to run them both at once or use or or the other but still have everything hooked up and not have to unplug it from my splawn and plug it back into my engl . My rig is Tc electronics g major ( Behringer btr 2000 tuner not hooked up but if it will help I can hook it up ) Splawn quickrod , engl fire ball both into a genz benz 212 g flex cab .

 

[glpg80]

The short answer is no - you cannot use a g major alone to split any signals or run a bi-amp setup. That will require load switching, guitar signal switching before the amplifier (if you want channel preamp signals from both amplifiers incorporated into the rig), and a method to switch all of this synchronously via MIDI.

CAE makes a rack product to do this but good luck, he does not have 100% customer satisfaction and it will not solve all of your problems.

http://www.customaudioelectronics.com/p ... d_id=prod7

The long answer is yes.

You will need a footswitch guitar signal splitting pedal. People can recommend them, you can search the forum.

Next you will need a poweramp, i recommend the GT1000 by matrix but any will do that can drive a signal to the load of your cabinet.

Next you will need to decide whether you want stereo effects or mono effects for each amplifier. You can pan effects hard left and right and use each amplifier mono, but you may get bleed through of a guitar signal into the un-used amplifier even though your guitar signal pedal switcher is not selected to use that amplifier. If you want stereo effects for each amplifier you will need to ditch the guitar splitting pedal and run straight MIDI to switch both effects and your guitar signal, between each amplifier. RJM electronics is a good place to start.

From there you will need load boxes for each amplifier to get a line-output signal. THD Hotplates are common and will do what you need.

Run each mono line output signal of each hotplate into the RJM MIDI. From this point the RJM will handle all effects that each amplifier would use. send a mono line out to a channel on the poweramplifier from the RJM. Then from the poweramplifier to the cabinet.

you will switch in and out effects via MIDI. your guitar signal is switched as a source via MIDI, each amplifier has a load which is required, line out signals are used to apply effects, and the RJM will supply a mono signal to a poweramp, or stereo output to a second channel on the poweramp and another cabinet.

As you can see, either way you're looking to invest alot of money and time to do what you want done and to do it properly. If that is what you want to do then go for it

 

[jordanofbirds]

Wow thats insane , doesn't seem worth it . G major as 2 inputs and 2 outputs couldn't I run it like that and then buy a aby pedal ?

 

[glpg80]

Wow thats insane , doesn't seem worth it . G major as 2 inputs and 2 outputs couldn't I run it like that and then buy a aby pedal ?

the outputs are for stereo left and right, which i touched basis on.

The rear input is not to be used at the same time as the front input - that is just another location for the front input if it is racked.

you will need a second cabinet, or you're looking at doing the above route to use one cabinet.

You could sell your cabinet and get two 1x12 cubes and run each amplifier on its own cube. use an ABY to split your signal, and use the g-major through an effects gizmo.

The most important factor is the load for each amplifier. either you're going to run two line outs from two seperate load boxes into a poweramp and then into one cabinet, or you're running two different cabinets. how you switch in the effects of each amplifier from that point on is up to you.

 

[Inca Roads]

I run a 2 Amp rig using the G-Major
for FX. Wanna know how I accomplished
it......I bought 2 G-Major's and run them
through the Loop of each amp.
Easiest way for me, without going
through a whole bunch of shit.

 

[jlbaxe]

The Egnater SS4 amp head switcher is cheaper and available. I would go that route instead of the CAE

 

[addison12345]

I'm curious if this set-up will work for running effects for two amps at the same time:

> Split my guitar signal in front of the amps
> Use the left In/Out on the Gmajor2 in the effects loop on Amp 1
> Use the right In/Out on the Gmajor2 in the effects loop on Amp 2

All of my drives, etc. are in the signal path in front of the amp.

Assuming I'm always coming out of both amps, would this not work?

 

[RJF]

I use two amps with my G major. I run the input/output through the loop of my Diezel Herbert to make my wet sound. I then send the external switching relay jack from the G major to the footswitch jack of my 2ch Dual recto and that allows me to switch between the two channels of my Dual. I set one channel up as my dry sound, heavy gain to run with my Herbert in stereo when playing rhythm, and turn the channel volume off on the second channel so that when I want a clean tone, my Ground Control Pro will select ch1 on my Herbert, and make the G major switch the relay and change the channel on my dual essentially muting the dual recto. For my lead tone I just use the second master volume on my Herbert set louder so that it over powers the recto and I get more "wet" (effects) than the dry recto tone.

 

[Anonymous]

I use two amps with my G major. I run the input/output through the loop of my Diezel Herbert to make my wet sound. I then send the external switching relay jack from the G major to the footswitch jack of my 2ch Dual recto and that allows me to switch between the two channels of my Dual. I set one channel up as my dry sound, heavy gain to run with my Herbert in stereo when playing rhythm, and turn the channel volume off on the second channel so that when I want a clean tone, my Ground Control Pro will select ch1 on my Herbert, and make the G major switch the relay and change the channel on my dual essentially muting the dual recto. For my lead tone I just use the second master volume on my Herbert set louder so that it over powers the recto and I get more "wet" (effects) than the dry recto tone.

Genius

just goes to show you, where there's a will, there's a way....and it doesn't always require the linear thought process of "how/why/won't/but" some people get caught up in!

 

[TremoJem]

One GMajor.
One Radial ToneBone SwitchBone JX-2.
Two Mesa Boogie Trem-O-Verb combos and one Marshall 4x12 300 watt split cabinet.

GMajor into the FXLoop of amp 1 and 2 for left and right.

JX-2 into front or input of amps 1 and 2 for left and right.

Guitar into JX-2.

Are your amps combos or so they share a cabinet? If they share a cabinet then you will not get stereo imaging such as panning etc.

I actually have two combos and wired the 4x12 to a vertical split and don't benefit much from the stereo imaging from the 4x12 but instead get the tight lows etc. that a 4x12 normally gives you. My combos are spaced wide from each other and stereo imaging is great. I am currently looking for another Marshall JCM900 from 1990 plus or minus 1 or 2 years as these where good cabinets for the money. I will then refurbish and upgrade it to meet the specs of the one I already upgraded and then they will both be wired for mono and NOT be split vertically as each one will be dedicated for either combo respectively.

A selection of pedals in front of the JX-2 just for fun, but not what the OP was asking about so I did not make a great deal about this.

I do like the idea of two GMajors and I believe this would have the possibility of incredible effects processing and almost infinite possibilities with regards to effects combinations, but would require a lot of patience.