scumback M75's for the heavy's?

[Devilinside]

Never heard these in person but was wondering what to expect? Local cab for sale has them! I play heavier music and like a good tight,full tone, and like mids! I keep seeing comparison's to greenbacks and they are a little shrill to my ears. For what its worth, I'm a V30's fan so maybe a comparison to those would be better.

 

[thiswaythatway]

Never heard these in person but was wondering what to expect? Local cab for sale has them! I play heavier music and like a good tight,full tone, and like mids! I keep seeing comparison's to greenbacks and they are a little shrill to my ears. For what its worth, I'm a V30's fan so maybe a comparison to those would be better.

The M75's are IMHO pretty deep sounding, a little dark, but sound like dark broken in Greenbacks. I thought they sounded good when i had some amps cranked through them really loud so i know they held together well. V30's sounded more aggressive to me and I think I'd pick them for metal. But the M75's could hold their own and might sounded smoother for classic rock.

 

[Capulin Overdrive]

Never heard these in person but was wondering what to expect? Local cab for sale has them! I play heavier music and like a good tight,full tone, and like mids! I keep seeing comparison's to greenbacks and they are a little shrill to my ears. For what its worth, I'm a V30's fan so maybe a comparison to those would be better.

The M75's are IMHO pretty deep sounding, a little dark, but sound like dark broken in Greenbacks. I thought they sounded good when i had some amps cranked through them really loud so i know they held together well. V30's sounded more aggressive to me and I think I'd pick them for metal. But the M75's could hold their own and might sounded smoother for classic rock.

i concur!

 

[Devilinside]

Cool thanks guys!

 

[thiswaythatway]

Here's a few Van Halen inspired riffs with an M75. I don't normally go for a VH tone and there's some clams in there.

https://soundcloud.com/danieldowning/a-f ... mback#play

 

[TheMagicEight]

Never heard these in person but was wondering what to expect? Local cab for sale has them! I play heavier music and like a good tight,full tone, and like mids! I keep seeing comparison's to greenbacks and they are a little shrill to my ears. For what its worth, I'm a V30's fan so maybe a comparison to those would be better.

V30s aren't really that tight IMO. You wouldn't be losing anything in that dept. by moving to the M75s. You would get a clearer, more detailed high end (rather than V30 fizz) and a softer, deeper midrange. For heavy stuff? Depends on what you like. Personally, I think the M75s or a good set of greenbacks (not new shrill ones) sound excellent for metal, assuming you have enough of them that your amp won't overpower the speakers into distortion.

I run a full stack of 25w M75s and G12Ms. It's really damn good!

 

[steve_k]

Never heard these in person but was wondering what to expect? Local cab for sale has them! I play heavier music and like a good tight,full tone, and like mids! I keep seeing comparison's to greenbacks and they are a little shrill to my ears. For what its worth, I'm a V30's fan so maybe a comparison to those would be better.

They're modeled from a GB and are sold as an alternative. If you consider GB's a heavy speaker, then you will like them. You can read up on all the Scumbacks at their website.

For me, no way and I have tried them all. And, I seriously doubt that Jim would recommend them as a heavy speaker. Heavy to me requires much more of a scooped tone. M75's don't do scoop. They will honk and quack like a duck.

This is all my opinion. That and a few bills will buy you a Starbucks.

Steve

 

[Mudder]

For metal I'd go for G12k-100 instead of GB or V30.

 

[srinivassa]

Where is Senior Scumback anyway? I used to see him around all the time. Seemed like a good guy and a good operation.

 

[IntenseJim]

M75 sound great but for scooped I'd go H75.

"heavys" can meen different things to different people.

I think Jim Seavall is on vacation for another week until May 24.

 

[thiswaythatway]

Never heard these in person but was wondering what to expect? Local cab for sale has them! I play heavier music and like a good tight,full tone, and like mids! I keep seeing comparison's to greenbacks and they are a little shrill to my ears. For what its worth, I'm a V30's fan so maybe a comparison to those would be better.

V30s aren't really that tight IMO.!

I disagree with that 100%. Probably 4 out of 5 modern metal bands use V30's. I doubt they'd all pick a loose sounding speaker.

 

[TheMagicEight]

V30s aren't really that tight IMO.!

I disagree with that 100%. Probably 4 out of 5 modern metal bands use V30's. I doubt they'd all pick a loose sounding speaker.

I wouldn't call them loose either; just not that tight. As for modern metal? Look how many bands use Rectifiers and 5150s; they're not particularly tight either, but they bring to the table the same thing V30s bring: character. Can you get a tight sound out of them? Yes, absolutely, but I still wouldn't consider them inherently tight next to, for example, P50Es, G12T-75s, or G12K-100s.

 

[Devilinside]

V30s aren't really that tight IMO.!

I disagree with that 100%. Probably 4 out of 5 modern metal bands use V30's. I doubt they'd all pick a loose sounding speaker.

I wouldn't call them loose either; just not that tight. As for modern metal? Look how many bands use Rectifiers and 5150s; they're not particularly tight either, but they bring to the table the same thing V30s bring: character. Can you get a tight sound out of them? Yes, absolutely, but I still wouldn't consider them inherently tight next to, for example, P50Es, G12T-75s, or G12K-100s.

As far as tight goes, to me V30's in the right cab is plenty tight. I've got them in my VHT FB and with the Fortin they are every bit as tight as the P50's as a matter of fact so tight that I was wanting to just get another 1960B w/V30's for the bones so it would have a little give but I live in a SHITHOLE for selling gear so the VHT is hard to unload in my area. I don't run my stuff very scooped either, so I like da mids!

 

[troublehead]

I don't like Scumbacks for anything......there I said it. Granted I've only tried the H75 and J75, but I think they are WAY overhyped. They aren't horrible, but I much prefer my Celestion and WGS speakers.

 

[Jay Strange]

For metal no. For me the M75's were cool for classic rock leads but that was it.
Could not bond with them for rhythm.
I'll stick with the real thing.

 

[JMP2203]

its depends on your amps and guitar/pickups

also the cab, a front loaded M75 will be tight enought IMO

 

[Devilinside]

its depends on your amps and guitar/pickups

also the cab, a front loaded M75 will be tight enought IMO

I think I will leave well enough alone, and stick with V30'S!

 

[the4thlast1]

Yeah I personally wouldnt go with the m75's for Metal..... I cant say that I liked them much in general though. They are very focused in the midrange in an annoying kind of way. Maybe mixing them would do the trick.

 

[fek]

How do the masses think that the M75's would handle AIC, Tesla, other 80's/90's tones?

 

[Shark Diver]

How do the masses think that the M75's would handle AIC, Tesla, other 80's/90's tones?

To me yes. But it depends on everything else in your rig. Cabinet, amp, etc. I think they are great speakers for getting heavy - but it might depend on what you think is heavy. I don't like scooped heavy. It doesn't cut. There are a lot of things that make a tone heavy, I prefer more organic, articulate heavy tones. I think the M75s are great for that. But my all time fav is still a EVM 12L.