So...Got this little amp called the NATAS and...

[7 Stringer]

The amp just crushes. Cleans are stellar. More thoughts to come.

First rehearsal tonight, i`m sure it will dominate

Surprisingly, it is not the most brutal amp in this pic!!!!! Well, it`s a tie.

The Gryphon is right up there with it. It also has the first spot for versatility, i think it might be THE most versatile amp in the world to date!!!!!! From the amps i`ve tried and clips i`ve heard.

James builds a hell of an amp.

Mike`s amps are just over built with quality and craftsmanship. Super quiet too.

Like i said, more thoughts on it when i get a chance to play it more, the 6irth and 6rind knobs are very sensitive and you have to find the right balance to get your sound.

Very happy so far.

Chris

 

[MYLILSS]

congrats on the natas


i am totally digging the 5150 amp collection

 

[jmgman69]

 

[killertone]

Congrats! I so want to play one of the new Natas amps. They have changed a bit since I had the proto, I bet they are even sicker now.

 

[glassjaw7]

The amp just crushes. Cleans are stellar. More thoughts to come.

First rehearsal tonight, i`m sure it will dominate

Surprisingly, it is not the most brutal amp in this pic!!!!! Well, it`s a tie.

The Gryphon is right up there with it. It also has the first spot for versatility, i think it might be THE most versatile amp in the world to date!!!!!! From the amps i`ve tried and clips i`ve heard.

James builds a hell of an amp.

Mike`s amps are just over built with quality and craftsmanship. Super quiet too.

Like i said, more thoughts on it when i get a chance to play it more, the 6irth and 6rind knobs are very sensitive and you have to find the right balance to get your sound.

Very happy so far.

Chris

Wow. This really surprises me. When I think NATAS, I think of the most cutting and ultra-brutal grinding metal tone possible. I always thought the Peters Gryphon was James' middle of the road model as far as gain, tightness and voicing. Sort of like his version of a hot-rodded Marshall.

Congrats on the new amp, and sick amp collection!

 

[The Hoff]

VERY nice

 

[Hard&Heavy]

NATAS

 

[SuperFlyinMonke]

Wow. This really surprises me. When I think NATAS, I think of the most cutting and ultra-brutal grinding metal tone possible. I always thought the Peters Gryphon was James' middle of the road model as far as gain, tightness and voicing. Sort of like his version of a hot-rodded Marshall.

Congrats on the new amp, and sick amp collection!

Just because it's not James' most defined and tight amp doesn't mean that it's not tighter, bigger and more brutal than most of what's out on the market. It's still very modern, though you can dial it in to be less so.

Congrats on the amp! It's an amp that I would really like to try, but now that you've found it to be "as good" as the Peters, I'm not likely to wager that I'd like it more, especially considering the price difference.

 

[JakeAC5253]

Wow. This really surprises me. When I think NATAS, I think of the most cutting and ultra-brutal grinding metal tone possible. I always thought the Peters Gryphon was James' middle of the road model as far as gain, tightness and voicing. Sort of like his version of a hot-rodded Marshall.

Congrats on the new amp, and sick amp collection!

I've never played a Peters amp, but The Natas is exactly that, a hi-fi modern voiced amplifier. It's not really pointy, oversaturated, or muddy in any way. It's high gain, but every note comes through clearly and isn't masked by noise or an overly aggressive EQ curve. As you raise the gain knob it gets dirtier, but not noisier or muddier, it's tough to explain to someone who hasn't heard it. An amp like the 5150 is a perfect example of an amp that is in no possible way anything close to being hi-fi, BUT, its EQ curve is such that it will be heard, like it or not. The Natas is almost the exact opposite. It is a hi-fi modern perfect sounding amp, but a brighter or harsher amp may seem more "aggressive" next to it. Again, not saying anything about Peters amps, all the clips I have heard left a positive impression anyway. The Natas has to be experienced to really understand it, it's also very tweakable and not pinned into one end tone.

Congrats on the NAD. That's one serious beast of an amp! Try cranking it up to see how loud it gets sometime

 

[Digital Jams]

Congrats!

Finding your tone with the girth and grind is somewhat misleading as those controls are totally different than any amp you have dialed in. Set them at noon and find your tone and then make your tone explode with them

All this talk is really wanting me to try a a new Peters

 

[glassjaw7]

Wow. This really surprises me. When I think NATAS, I think of the most cutting and ultra-brutal grinding metal tone possible. I always thought the Peters Gryphon was James' middle of the road model as far as gain, tightness and voicing. Sort of like his version of a hot-rodded Marshall.

Congrats on the new amp, and sick amp collection!

Just because it's not James' most defined and tight amp doesn't mean that it's not tighter, bigger and more brutal than most of what's out on the market. It's still very modern, though you can dial it in to be less so.

Congrats on the amp! It's an amp that I would really like to try, but now that you've found it to be "as good" as the Peters, I'm not likely to wager that I'd like it more, especially considering the price difference.

Wasn't bashing the Peters stuff at all. I just didn't understand what exactly the Gryphon was.

Wow. This really surprises me. When I think NATAS, I think of the most cutting and ultra-brutal grinding metal tone possible. I always thought the Peters Gryphon was James' middle of the road model as far as gain, tightness and voicing. Sort of like his version of a hot-rodded Marshall.

Congrats on the new amp, and sick amp collection!

I've never played a Peters amp, but The Natas is exactly that, a hi-fi modern voiced amplifier. It's not really pointy, oversaturated, or muddy in any way. It's high gain, but every note comes through clearly and isn't masked by noise or an overly aggressive EQ curve. As you raise the gain knob it gets dirtier, but not noisier or muddier, it's tough to
explain to someone who hasn't heard it. An amp like the 5150 is a perfect example of an amp that is in no possible way anything close to being hi-fi, BUT, its EQ curve is such that it will be heard, like it or not. The Natas is almost the exact opposite. It is a hi-fi modern perfect sounding amp, but a brighter or harsher amp may seem more "aggressive" next to it. Again, not saying anything about Peters amps, all the clips I have heard left a positive impression anyway. The Natas has to be experienced to really understand it, it's also very tweakable and not pinned into one end tone.

Congrats on the NAD. That's one serious beast of an amp! Try cranking it up to see how loud it gets sometime

Right on. There's a clip on netmusicians.org of the NATAS being played through H30s and it's exactly that cutting, 3d sound. Perfectly sculpted and not overly saturated. I'm aware of what the NATAS is about, just not the Peters stuff, I guess.

 

[7 Stringer]

Awesome. The Natas is very versatile. The high gain is killer, but so are the lower gain tones. I was floored how is reacted to 80's stuff like VH. Killer amp indeed.

Didn`t have a chance to try all the possibilities yet, just the most brutal for now, and does it ever excel in that department.

It`s loaded with 6550`s, i might try what Mike suggests, the 34 and 6l6 combo, or all 34`s. Probably will be more versatile and give a bit more chewiness, it`s soooo tight and fast right now it`s crazy, i can`t make a mistake, everybody will now

I`ll try and dial in some more 80`s flavored tones tomorrow.

 

[7 Stringer]

congrats on the natas


i am totally digging the 5150 amp collection

Just got the I and II for $500 a pop, i could not miss the deal. I figured these have got to be collectable in X number of years, in mint shape to boot. Then i put new tubes and plugged in

These amps make there place in metal tones, no doubt. The I is very deep and big, loose on the bottom end but no flab. A classic. These amps started a revolution in modern metal tones,IMO. Probably will always keep them, they made there mark.

I compared the I and II with the NATAS. While the NATAS has a notch over them in every category, they hold there ground.

 

[7 Stringer]

Congrats! I so want to play one of the new Natas amps. They have changed a bit since I had the proto, I bet they are even sicker now.

It`s sick allright. I was having a bit of feedback problems but it`s mostly due to my other guitarist. He has a bad ground or connection in his guitar, i hear myself through his rig. As a matter of fact, we all hear ourselves through his rig. Sucks.

We play about 10 songs from Parkway Drive and god damn that low B stands out with the NATAS, has a throaty deep growl thing going, it`s down right crushing.

 

[7 Stringer]

Wow. This really surprises me. When I think NATAS, I think of the most cutting and ultra-brutal grinding metal tone possible. I always thought the Peters Gryphon was James' middle of the road model as far as gain, tightness and voicing. Sort of like his version of a hot-rodded Marshall.

Congrats on the new amp, and sick amp collection!

Mine has a little mod that makes it a bit more aggressive. There`s something really special about James amps, unique like i never heard. A throaty roar is a good description of it, kind of like a lion`s roar. The 6550`s, witch is what it`s loaded with, accentuates this, and makes it aggressive big time. It also really reacts to your playing technique, slam those big 11-56 gauge strings and watch out, your balls are gonna fall of.

I had a Chimera once and traded it for the Gryphon and it was a match made in you know where.

 

[7 Stringer]

Wow. This really surprises me. When I think NATAS, I think of the most cutting and ultra-brutal grinding metal tone possible. I always thought the Peters Gryphon was James' middle of the road model as far as gain, tightness and voicing. Sort of like his version of a hot-rodded Marshall.

Congrats on the new amp, and sick amp collection!

Just because it's not James' most defined and tight amp doesn't mean that it's not tighter, bigger and more brutal than most of what's out on the market. It's still very modern, though you can dial it in to be less so.

Congrats on the amp! It's an amp that I would really like to try, but now that you've found it to be "as good" as the Peters, I'm not likely to wager that I'd like it more, especially considering the price difference.

You know exactly what i`m talking about.

The Edge, Crunch, Modern/vintage,wide/normal and damping/depth knobs offer so much flexibility it`s downright scary. It covers every ground of tone you throw at it,IMO, and all excellently. I`ve been playing the Gryphon exclusively for like 2 years. Once in a while i`ll hook up the EVH or VHT, but i always come back to the Gryphon. It really spoiled me.

Now if i can decide myself to grab a 3 channel Peters..............

 

[7 Stringer]

Congrats!

Finding your tone with the girth and grind is somewhat misleading as those controls are totally different than any amp you have dialed in. Set them at noon and find your tone and then make your tone explode with them

All this talk is really wanting me to try a a new Peters

Yep, those knobs need to be tweaked to achieve what you desire. But once you find your setting.....It`s killing time.

I`m going back and forth with the gain lower and kill switch on and higher gain kill switch off. Different flavor of brutalness. But killswitch off might get my vote. With the midi, when i have the kill on for my rythm tone, i can set up a lower gain tone on another patch with the kill off. Kinda like a mini 3 channel mod. Cool.

And the clean channel is

 

[steve_k]

Congrats!

Finding your tone with the girth and grind is somewhat misleading as those controls are totally different than any amp you have dialed in. Set them at noon and find your tone and then make your tone explode with them

All this talk is really wanting me to try a a new Peters

Yep, those knobs need to be tweaked to achieve what you desire. But once you find your setting.....It`s killing time.

I`m going back and forth with the gain lower and kill switch on and higher gain kill switch off. Different flavor of brutalness. But killswitch off might get my vote. With the midi, when i have the kill on for my rythm tone, i can set up a lower gain tone on another patch with the kill off. Kinda like a mini 3 channel mod. Cool.

And the clean channel is

OK, we get it. You don't like the amp at all.....

Dibs. What's your PayPal ?

Enjoy that NATAS! I'm in when Mike decides to get off this extended vacation

Steve

 

[7 Stringer]

Congrats!

Finding your tone with the girth and grind is somewhat misleading as those controls are totally different than any amp you have dialed in. Set them at noon and find your tone and then make your tone explode with them

All this talk is really wanting me to try a a new Peters

Yep, those knobs need to be tweaked to achieve what you desire. But once you find your setting.....It`s killing time.

I`m going back and forth with the gain lower and kill switch on and higher gain kill switch off. Different flavor of brutalness. But killswitch off might get my vote. With the midi, when i have the kill on for my rythm tone, i can set up a lower gain tone on another patch with the kill off. Kinda like a mini 3 channel mod. Cool.

And the clean channel is

OK, we get it. You don't like the amp at all.....

Dibs. What's your PayPal ?

Enjoy that NATAS! I'm in when Mike decides to get off this extended vacation

Steve

Paypal is: thisthingaintforsaleyet@hotmail.com

 

[jmgman69]

Congrats!

Finding your tone with the girth and grind is somewhat misleading as those controls are totally different than any amp you have dialed in. Set them at noon and find your tone and then make your tone explode with them

All this talk is really wanting me to try a a new Peters

Yep, those knobs need to be tweaked to achieve what you desire. But once you find your setting.....It`s killing time.

I`m going back and forth with the gain lower and kill switch on and higher gain kill switch off. Different flavor of brutalness. But killswitch off might get my vote. With the midi, when i have the kill on for my rythm tone, i can set up a lower gain tone on another patch with the kill off. Kinda like a mini 3 channel mod. Cool.

And the clean channel is

OK, we get it. You don't like the amp at all.....

Dibs. What's your PayPal ?

Enjoy that NATAS! I'm in when Mike decides to get off this extended vacation

Steve

Paypal is: thisthingaintforsaleyet@hotmail.com