Speaker cables question and recommendation.

[Fret-Shredder]

For my Engl Savage 120. From the head to the 8 ohm input of the speaker cab. Please recommend a good quality cable I can get at Guitar Center. I need one 4 to 6 feet. Does it cause a problem if it is angled at both ends?? Opinions please. Cheers guys.

 

[sg guy]

-hardware store-
-16-awg lamp cord-(I like the transparent covered, gold & silver stranded wire,...
-QUALITY JACKS-(only use the solder type)-
-angled jacks? Why?

 

[errrrrl]

Not sure if you ever heard of Analasys Plus cables but the local shop owner here turned me on to them and I swear it makes a difference. I have this except mine is 1 angled and 1 straight.

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Analysis-Plus/Clear-Oval-Speaker-Cable-with-1-4-Straight-to-Straight.gc

He also had me try out their power cables the day I picked up my new amp... I was fucken shocked that swapping out a power cable can add more fullness and just make your amp sound better... Not sure what kind of voodoo they got going on in their cables but the shit is for real man... but yeah not cheap.

 

[Ventura]

Honestly all the nuances and science behind "cables" is almost borderline snake-oil unless you've got runs in excess of 25ft.

I know this - you're talking to a guy who wired and set up everything with Vovox & Evidence Audio cables in his soundroom and studio (knew the reps).

They're pretty, but they don't sound a goddamn bit different than the Monster cables or no-name brands that most music stores have floating around their floors. Imagine that. I will qualify that - on longer runs - the Vovox do offer some niceties in the higher end frequency signals than the rest of them - but is this "neutrality and perfection" or is this actually a byproduct of "cable capacitance and coloration"??

Chicken, egg, hard to say.
Just don't stress - get something that works and FTW. Marketing is sooooooooooooooooo insidious.

2 cents.

 

[Fret-Shredder]

Thanks guys for the replies. I appreciate it.

 

[RedB4Black]

I buy all my cables from bestronics. Quality is as good as/better than the boutique, and the prices are great.

http://btpa.com/

 

[Browns Fan]

I have the analysis plus cable for my amp also. I totally agree that this cable made my tone change for the better!!!!

 

[oldmtlhed]

-angled jacks? Why?

So you can push the cab closer against the wall.

I am surprised companies don't make them with 90deg ends.
I went looking recently, didn't find any.
I went with a FENDER California series cable. 5' length, 14awg wires.
Very nice cable. MF had them on-sale for $8.99. What a bargain.
( They are $14.99 right now. )

 

[Deanmachine]

Analysis here also they make great cables

 

[IndyWS6]

Honestly all the nuances and science behind "cables" is almost borderline snake-oil unless you've got runs in excess of 25ft.

I know this - you're talking to a guy who wired and set up everything with Vovox & Evidence Audio cables in his soundroom and studio (knew the reps).

They're pretty, but they don't sound a goddamn bit different than the Monster cables or no-name brands that most music stores have floating around their floors. Imagine that. I will qualify that - on longer runs - the Vovox do offer some niceties in the higher end frequency signals than the rest of them - but is this "neutrality and perfection" or is this actually a byproduct of "cable capacitance and coloration"??

Chicken, egg, hard to say.
Just don't stress - get something that works and FTW. Marketing is sooooooooooooooooo insidious.

2 cents.

Exactly

 

[errrrrl]

Honestly all the nuances and science behind "cables" is almost borderline snake-oil unless you've got runs in excess of 25ft.

That is pretty much how I always felt as well I still remember when some guy made a vid comparing a monster cable to using a coat hanger for speaker wire and there was no difference

I'm picking up my Analysis Plus power cable this Friday, i'm not sure how I'll be able to try to capture it yet but i'm going to try to make a vid showing/hearing the difference. Just swapping the power cable out made my new Butterslax sound quite a bit fuller and just more ballsy... I know it sounds crazy, trust me I was cringing a little when the shop owner was swapping em out to show me... but it was noticeable.

 

[Dragoneti]

Evidence Siren!

 

[moltenmetalburn]

I find a markes difference with better ( larger guage) speaker cables but you must also rewire the cab internals with the same wire or what is the point at all. I have compared cheap "lamp" wire many times and it sounds worse than good wire though nothing to split hairs over. Subtle differences.

As for cable science being snake oil, depends on the claims if dealing with a high impedance signal at that point in the chain then cable length and choice (capicatance) will certainly matter.

In a low impedance situation the effect is not present causing many to claim "cables don't matter". Only ignorance perpetuates that thinking. It is incorrect.

 

[errrrrl]

As for cable science being snake oil, depends on the claims if dealing with a high impedance signal at that point in the chain then cable length and choice (capicatance) will certainly matter.

In a low impedance situation the effect is not present causing many to claim "cables don't matter". Only ignorance perpetuates that thinking. It is incorrect.

On the Analysis plus site they have an interesting page called Proof with various things listed. I found their Letter from Nasa very interesting. They also point out on their main page that "We are an engineering company that makes world class cables." Just wish their shit was cheaper lol.

https://www.analysis-plus.com/make-me-prove-it/

 

[midnightlaundry]

Meh.. I bought a mess of Switchcraft Jacks and a roll of 14 gauge Speaker Wire from Walmart.. Custom cables FTW..

 

[Ventura]

I buy all my cables from bestronics. Quality is as good as/better than the boutique, and the prices are great.

http://btpa.com/

100% agreement here - absolutely hands-down 100% in agreement!!

And the pricing won't suck the pant off of ya

 

[Ventura]

As for cable science being snake oil, depends on the claims if dealing with a high impedance signal at that point in the chain then cable length and choice (capicatance) will certainly matter.

In a low impedance situation the effect is not present causing many to claim "cables don't matter". Only ignorance perpetuates that thinking. It is incorrect.

Agreed. Hence my disclaimer about lengthier runs of cables. But for 90% of us out there - standard "good cables" will be JUST fine.