Strap locking systems and Strap Buttons

[Anonymous]

please throw in your 2 cents on which ones are the best... I know this is a stupid thread, but I have only used dimarzio strap locks before, and they are uncomfortable as hell around the neck. Im buying a couple nice leather straps, that should take care of that problem and now I need to know what is a perfect match to hold these thick leather straps tight onto my taylor acoustic, and my les pauls. Any help is greatly appreciated. Are a couple pairs of strap buttons all I need?

Thanks, Chad

 

[Code001]

I had to eventually move away from the DiMarzio setup for the same reason you mentioned, along with my strap sliding everywhere from the slick, nylon material. I've used the Dunlops for years and gigged with them without a problem. Most of the issues people experience with Dunlops are that they don't make sure they're fully inserted. Schallers are also good. The issues with Schallers are that they'll squeak after years of usage, the nut can come off (fixed by using loctite) and the screw is usually smaller than the standard screw (fixed by a toothpick/dowel/glue). I actually have a toolbox filled w/ those red Grolsch beer washer/seals for a strap lock in a pinch.

 

[Tawlks]

A few years ago my brother bought Dunlop and I bought Schaller, I've stuck with Schaller ever since, comfortable, reliable, the only issue is that the nut can come loose, you need to tighten it from now and then, but the Dunlop ones apparently come off if not in properly.

 

[droptrd]

I had to eventually move away from the DiMarzio setup for the same reason you mentioned, along with my strap sliding everywhere from the slick, nylon material. I've used the Dunlops for years and gigged with them without a problem. Most of the issues people experience with Dunlops are that they don't make sure they're fully inserted. Schallers are also good. The issues with Schallers are that they'll squeak after years of usage, the nut can come off (fixed by using loctite) and the screw is usually smaller than the standard screw (fixed by a toothpick/dowel/glue). I actually have a toolbox filled w/ those red Grolsch beer washer/seals for a strap lock in a pinch.

+1 a little oil and loctite is needed for the schallers. I recently bought 10 sets of strap locks from fender. almost half the cost of the schallers even though they say schaller on them and are virtually identical to the schaller branded strap locks

 

[Anonymous]

Do you have the link to the fender page where you bought them for half the price? $20 for a set of these Schallers is a little high in my book.

Thanks, Chad

I had to eventually move away from the DiMarzio setup for the same reason you mentioned, along with my strap sliding everywhere from the slick, nylon material. I've used the Dunlops for years and gigged with them without a problem. Most of the issues people experience with Dunlops are that they don't make sure they're fully inserted. Schallers are also good. The issues with Schallers are that they'll squeak after years of usage, the nut can come off (fixed by using loctite) and the screw is usually smaller than the standard screw (fixed by a toothpick/dowel/glue). I actually have a toolbox filled w/ those red Grolsch beer washer/seals for a strap lock in a pinch.

+1 a little oil and loctite is needed for the schallers. I recently bought 10 sets of strap locks from fender. almost half the cost of the schallers even though they say schaller on them and are virtually identical to the schaller branded strap locks

 

[jlbaxe]

I use the Dunlop strap locks have them on all my guitars and like them very much. They run around 13-19 bucks at MF.

 

[droptrd]

I got mine for under 12 a set. but here is where I got them. MF. These are schallers in a fender package. great deal.

http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/ ... sku=420534

Do you have the link to the fender page where you bought them for half the price? $20 for a set of these Schallers is a little high in my book.

Thanks, Chad

I had to eventually move away from the DiMarzio setup for the same reason you mentioned, along with my strap sliding everywhere from the slick, nylon material. I've used the Dunlops for years and gigged with them without a problem. Most of the issues people experience with Dunlops are that they don't make sure they're fully inserted. Schallers are also good. The issues with Schallers are that they'll squeak after years of usage, the nut can come off (fixed by using loctite) and the screw is usually smaller than the standard screw (fixed by a toothpick/dowel/glue). I actually have a toolbox filled w/ those red Grolsch beer washer/seals for a strap lock in a pinch.

+1 a little oil and loctite is needed for the schallers. I recently bought 10 sets of strap locks from fender. almost half the cost of the schallers even though they say schaller on them and are virtually identical to the schaller branded strap locks

 

[jlbaxe]

://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/Fender-Strap-Locks-and-Buttons-Set?sku=420534
Do you have the link to the fender page where you bought them for half the price? $20 for a set of these

I have one of these also but with the Dunlop have a more natural look. I also dont like how they slide onto the strap button and prefer the push in and lock ball bearing swivel.

 

[Spaceboy]

I've been using Schaller for about a year, formerly had Planet Waves, and I've been pleased with them. Schaller is my usual go-to company for hardware.

 

[Anonymous]

I got mine for under 12 a set. but here is where I got them. MF. These are schallers in a fender package. great deal.

http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/ ... sku=420534

Do you have the link to the fender page where you bought them for half the price? $20 for a set of these Schallers is a little high in my book.

Thanks, Chad

I had to eventually move away from the DiMarzio setup for the same reason you mentioned, along with my strap sliding everywhere from the slick, nylon material. I've used the Dunlops for years and gigged with them without a problem. Most of the issues people experience with Dunlops are that they don't make sure they're fully inserted. Schallers are also good. The issues with Schallers are that they'll squeak after years of usage, the nut can come off (fixed by using loctite) and the screw is usually smaller than the standard screw (fixed by a toothpick/dowel/glue). I actually have a toolbox filled w/ those red Grolsch beer washer/seals for a strap lock in a pinch.

+1 a little oil and loctite is needed for the schallers. I recently bought 10 sets of strap locks from fender. almost half the cost of the schallers even though they say schaller on them and are virtually identical to the schaller branded strap locks

Yeah, I hear the same stories about small screws... but cant you just use the same screws that were on the guitars original strap buttons and there would be no use to do all the extra crap? Is there a way that the dunlops can come undone on their own? I really cant knock dimarzio at all... besides the fact the nylon is rough fealing, it holds up forever!!!

 

[jlbaxe]

I got mine for under 12 a set. but here is where I got them. MF. These are schallers in a fender package. great deal.

http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/ ... sku=420534

Do you have the link to the fender page where you bought them for half the price? $20 for a set of these Schallers is a little high in my book.

Thanks, Chad

I had to eventually move away from the DiMarzio setup for the same reason you mentioned, along with my strap sliding everywhere from the slick, nylon material. I've used the Dunlops for years and gigged with them without a problem. Most of the issues people experience with Dunlops are that they don't make sure they're fully inserted. Schallers are also good. The issues with Schallers are that they'll squeak after years of usage, the nut can come off (fixed by using loctite) and the screw is usually smaller than the standard screw (fixed by a toothpick/dowel/glue). I actually have a toolbox filled w/ those red Grolsch beer washer/seals for a strap lock in a pinch.

+1 a little oil and loctite is needed for the schallers. I recently bought 10 sets of strap locks from fender. almost half the cost of the schallers even though they say schaller on them and are virtually identical to the schaller branded strap locks

Yeah, I hear the same stories about small screws... but cant you just use the same screws that were on the guitars original strap buttons and there would be no use to do all the extra crap? Is there a way that the dunlops can come undone on their own? I really cant knock dimarzio at all... besides the fact the nylon is rough fealing, it holds up forever!!!

The head on most screws are to large. I have never had an issue with the dunlop. you have to push the button in and pull to get it to release. I also have 3 DiMarzio setups but prefer the soft leather wide straps over the nylon, but you can sling the guitar around head and shoulders in a 360 like some hair band guitarist (CC Deville) with the nylon . I have one Schaller, I just dont like the knob that sticks out and when attaching you have to pull out that knob as you slide it on. It is as solid as the other locks. Its all personal preference.

 

[messenger]

Havin both Schaller and Dunlop I prefer the Dunlop.My next guitar I buy I'm just going to use a Large Metal washer though, and permantly attatch my strap. I don't need to be able to remove it.

 

[Deleted member 10619]

I’ve always used Schaller straplocks only because they are visually appealing to me. I’m sure most straplocks work just as fine. All they need is proper maintenance

 

[Death by Uberschall]

Over-sized strap buttons.

Started using them years ago and never looked back. Never, ever had a strap come off one of these. It's a tight fit to get the strap on it. All my guitars get them.

$5.00 one time for each guitar instead of the cost of strap locks every time you pick up a new strap.

 

[Badronald]

I am in the process of taking all the strap locks off my guitars. I really dislike them.

I much prefer big strap buttons.

 

[Nico]

I like Dimarzios just fine... Have them on 4 guitars. Only once I had a problem, abusing a guitar and throwing it 360's a thousand time ala Yngwie Malmsteen... until it finally....
The guitar flew away, landed on the headstock, messed it a little up, luckily it didn't break...

I always use the same screws that came stock with the guitar, not the oversize dimarzio ones...

 

[shadowfax29]

I use the Schaller as well. I've actually only bought one set of strap locks and used to order just the schaller strap buttons that fit into the strap locks for about $5 per pair. But obviously that won't work if you're the type of guy to have a strap for every guitar you own. I only use one or two straps so just buying the buttons has worked for me.

As far as the screws go, I've found that sometimes you can get away with using the screw that originally came out of the guitar and sometimes the head of the screw is too large. I've used a grinder to shave the edge of the too large screws once and that also worked fine.

Here's a link you could buy just the schaller buttons. Even if you didn't want to purchase from this site, the All Parts part numbers could come in handy if you decide to go this route.

Scroll about half way down

http://www.darrenriley.com/Allparts.htm

 

[snowdog]

I had to eventually move away from the DiMarzio setup for the same reason you mentioned, along with my strap sliding everywhere from the slick, nylon material. I've used the Dunlops for years and gigged with them without a problem. Most of the issues people experience with Dunlops are that they don't make sure they're fully inserted. Schallers are also good. The issues with Schallers are that they'll squeak after years of usage, the nut can come off (fixed by using loctite) and the screw is usually smaller than the standard screw (fixed by a toothpick/dowel/glue). I actually have a toolbox filled w/ those red Grolsch beer washer/seals for a strap lock in a pinch.

Check out the cordura ones if you want ones that don't slip. I have the camo skulls one-no Yngwie tricks possible with that one.
http://www.dimarzio.com/site/#/straps/


I think the DiMarzio system is the best out there, before I got one about 20 years ago I had some leather strap that I hated and Schaller strap locks that the nut came loose on every 12 hours or less even if I super glued the damned thing on there. I love Schaller tuners and some of their bridges but to me a strap lock that needs constant maintenance is FAIL.

 

[Ayrton]

I use Schaller with a dab of blue Loctite or the DiMarzio straps.

 

[jlbaxe]

The Dunlops don't have a nut to worry about. There is the big flat round button with the post then the strap goes on then a flat washer about the diameter of a quarter and then a horseshoe shaped snap ring. Great construction and was a snug fit on my new stiffer leather strap and even worked fine on my old worn leather strap. I like them so much I am ordering 3 more sets for my other guitars.