Straps and Straplocks...

[mortega76]

Good Afternoon Everyone!!!

We just had a show this past weekend and during our very first song my strap half busted... It was a Planet Waves locking strap... previous to that I had the original locking strap that I liked a bit better... anyhow... I'm in the market for a new strap (hopefully) with strap locks... I would like to keep it under $50.

Thanks a bunch for your suggestions!

 

[Nico]

Dimarzio straps are fine for me, I do the whole flip around the body too...

 

[Tvd]

Strap locks are obviously a good idea but I didn't have the heart the drill into my les paul to glue some dowels in because you shouldn't really just screw em out and screw em back in if you want the best fit/strength ratio...

 

[bste328]

is it possible that not a single manufacture do actually have in his catalog a straplock that works without messing with les pauls' holes??

not kidding, those guys at gibson fucked us BIG TIME with two different types of strap screws in every les paul they make!!!

 

[Ancient Alien]

is it possible that not a single manufacture do actually have in his catalog a straplock that works without messing with les pauls' holes??

not kidding, those guys at gibson fucked us BIG TIME with two different types of strap screws in every les paul they make!!!

I don't see the problem.
All you need to do is take the original screws from the LP and use them in place of the ones that come with the strap locks.
Worst case scenario is that you put the straplock buttons in a vice and have to slightly drill them out.
You should not have to dowel the body at all...

 

[jet66]

Depends on the strap locks and the stock hardware. My son just picked up a Jackson RR5, and he was going to re-use the stock screws with the Dunlop posts: The head of the screw was too big to fit inside of the post.

 

[Ancient Alien]

Depends on the strap locks and the stock hardware. My son just picked up a Jackson RR5, and he was going to re-use the stock screws with the Dunlop posts: The head of the screw was too big to fit inside of the post.

Thats why they make grinders

And use these straplocks.....

NOT these crap ones...

Less stress on the screw holes since the lock is actually over the button and not an extension of the button.
I've done more repairs on Dunlop equipped guitars, and never had a single Schaller loosen up on me...

 

[mortega76]

Wow... Thanks for chiming in fellas...

Ancient Aliens: I used to use that very same strap button on my LP Studio Lite... It worked great but I hated the nickel when it got "rusty"... I should have gotten black...

I had no idea Gibson had two different size screws... That's fucked up!!!

I really wish they just had a sturdier locking strap like the planet waves one... I like the idea of the lock on the strap...

 

[jet66]

And use these straplocks......

+1. All of my guitars have Schaller locks. The kid used Dunlops that he already had that match the gold on the RR5. I imagine he'll pick up some Gold Schallers when he can swing it.

 

[Tvd]

is it possible that not a single manufacture do actually have in his catalog a straplock that works without messing with les pauls' holes??

not kidding, those guys at gibson fucked us BIG TIME with two different types of strap screws in every les paul they make!!!

I don't see the problem.
All you need to do is take the original screws from the LP and use them in place of the ones that come with the strap locks.
Worst case scenario is that you put the straplock buttons in a vice and have to slightly drill them out.
You should not have to dowel the body at all...

Call me crazy, call me what you will... But I would never do a thing to my vintage lp, such as remove a large screw and replace it, may sound crazy but it won't sit like it did from the factory. The vibration will differ as little as it may be from what it was. I'm just to into the tone of my geet to fk with it like that.

 

[RockStarNick]

is it possible that not a single manufacture do actually have in his catalog a straplock that works without messing with les pauls' holes??

not kidding, those guys at gibson fucked us BIG TIME with two different types of strap screws in every les paul they make!!!

I don't see the problem.
All you need to do is take the original screws from the LP and use them in place of the ones that come with the strap locks.
Worst case scenario is that you put the straplock buttons in a vice and have to slightly drill them out.
You should not have to dowel the body at all...

Call me crazy, call me what you will... But I would never do a thing to my vintage lp, such as remove a large screw and replace it, may sound crazy but it won't sit like it did from the factory. The vibration will differ as little as it may be from what it was. I'm just to into the tone of my geet to fk with it like that.

Perhaps... but the tone will differ a hell of a lot more if the strap slips, the guitar falls, and the neck snaps off.

 

[Tvd]

haha true... I stay away from the sum 41 guitar swings lol

 

[Spaceboy]

I'm beyond pleased with Schaller straplocks, but I had Dunlop on one guitar and they were definitely much more 'user friendly' although didn't feel as secure as Schaller, but I never actually had a problem with them, it was just a feeling.

 

[Ancient Alien]

is it possible that not a single manufacture do actually have in his catalog a straplock that works without messing with les pauls' holes??

not kidding, those guys at gibson fucked us BIG TIME with two different types of strap screws in every les paul they make!!!

I don't see the problem.
All you need to do is take the original screws from the LP and use them in place of the ones that come with the strap locks.
Worst case scenario is that you put the straplock buttons in a vice and have to slightly drill them out.
You should not have to dowel the body at all...

Call me crazy, call me what you will... But I would never do a thing to my vintage lp, such as remove a large screw and replace it, may sound crazy but it won't sit like it did from the factory. The vibration will differ as little as it may be from what it was. I'm just to into the tone of my geet to fk with it like that.

First off, I never said anything about replacing a screw, I said to use the stock screws from the guitar.
Second, it's only a Gibson....
Third, if you really think that vibrations will differ in the guitar due to a strap button screw, there is a place on the internet for you.
It's called THE GEAR PAGE.

 

[Ancient Alien]

Perhaps... but the tone will differ a hell of a lot more if the strap slips, the guitar falls, and the neck snaps off.

Well, if you as much as fart in the general direction of a LP, the headstock will snap off

 

[9ball]

i like dunlop D38 straps.
good straps.
longer than other straps too.
a little stiff when you first get them but they loosen up nicely.
i have one for each of my V's. they're slung lower than the RG lol. one's red flames the other's black lol.
but i have also been using dunlop strap locks for years and never had a single problem. it's pretty fail safe if you don't beat the crap out of them actually.
little ball bearings are pushed out by the rod that protrudes when the lock button is let go, forcing themselves into the channel that holds the connector on. no way they'd fail unless they're broken. usually by the user lol. just make sure they're on securely before you start swinging the guitar around like guitarzan lol.
but i'm not tryin to argue which is better. never used any others. use whatever you want lol.

 

[Tvd]

is it possible that not a single manufacture do actually have in his catalog a straplock that works without messing with les pauls' holes??

not kidding, those guys at gibson fucked us BIG TIME with two different types of strap screws in every les paul they make!!!

I don't see the problem.
All you need to do is take the original screws from the LP and use them in place of the ones that come with the strap locks.
Worst case scenario is that you put the straplock buttons in a vice and have to slightly drill them out.
You should not have to dowel the body at all...

Call me crazy, call me what you will... But I would never do a thing to my vintage lp, such as remove a large screw and replace it, may sound crazy but it won't sit like it did from the factory. The vibration will differ as little as it may be from what it was. I'm just to into the tone of my geet to fk with it like that.

First off, I never said anything about replacing a screw, I said to use the stock screws from the guitar.
Second, it's only a Gibson....
Third, if you really think that vibrations will differ in the guitar due to a strap button screw, there is a place on the internet for you.
It's called THE GEAR PAGE.

Never heard of the gear page...
And we could argue all day about what guitars you like and dislike but it isn't going to prove to me that your dicks bigger
As far as replacing the screw goes, you're taking what I said out of context.

 

[Marshall Freak]

is it possible that not a single manufacture do actually have in his catalog a straplock that works without messing with les pauls' holes??

not kidding, those guys at gibson fucked us BIG TIME with two different types of strap screws in every les paul they make!!!

I don't see the problem.
All you need to do is take the original screws from the LP and use them in place of the ones that come with the strap locks.
Worst case scenario is that you put the straplock buttons in a vice and have to slightly drill them out.
You should not have to dowel the body at all...

Call me crazy, call me what you will... But I would never do a thing to my vintage lp, such as remove a large screw and replace it, may sound crazy but it won't sit like it did from the factory. The vibration will differ as little as it may be from what it was. I'm just to into the tone of my geet to fk with it like that.

I did with mine. What is your guitar? It's not going to hurt the value any, you just keep the original strap buttons. Headstock cracks from falling does hurt value though....

 

[9ball]

you shouldn't have to drill out any hole on a guitar for a slightly larger diameter screw. wood screws are self tapping screws. if anything the new bigger one will be even more secure. but once you put the bigger screw in there, the original may not fit as securely.
i remember when i had my ZWLP i put dunlop strap locks on it and used the dunlop screws. they were a little bigger i think and maybe a bit longer.
i wasn't worried about "keeping the guitar pristinely original" so i used the provided screws from dunlop and they fit securely.
i would think if you were that worried about "keeping the guitar factory" you wouldn't be putting strap locks on it to begin with?

 

[Tvd]

it's an 81 artisan, it has the diamond strap buttons so I'm not too worried about a drop, if I was I would still only use duck tape but that is just I. But as far as what 9ball said, very true... Which is why they won't be going on this guitar