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Hey guys and gals, I have a problem. Whenever I play my Ibanez 7 string it sounds kind of muddy and I have already replaced the stock pickups. Originally I had the V7 and V8 but then changed then out for a set of Dimarzio Blaze. So I took about a week to tweak my Herbert and I found that I really needed to roll off the Bass(more then expected) to get a tighter sound. I was considering some Bareknuckle Aftermath's but they are alittle on the expensive side.

:thumbsup: Let me know what you suggest :thumbsdown:
 
I emailed Tim at Bare Knuckles for suggestions and he nailed it. I told him what amp I used, the guitar I had and it's inherent tone (eg, bright, dark, etc), the type of music I played, and what I wanted to fix about the current tone I was getting.

I had a basswood/maple capped 7 string that was too bright and too clinical (opposite of your problem) and he recommended the Holy Diver. So I guess I'd recommend against the Holy Diver for you.
 
Ok so the Holy Diver is OUT!!! :lol: :LOL: :lol: :LOL: :lol: :LOL: I wonder if I should check out Seymour Duncan also? :confused:
 
Lower output pups in general.

Of the BKP varietal? Emeralds, Mules, Abraxas, Black Dogs, Riff Raffs and Mules. Talk to Tim @ BKP and let him know what's up. He knows about Diezel's diggin' lower/moderate output pups.

Cheers,
Uncle Mo
 
I my 7 I have a Dimarzio X2N7 bridge and a Blaze neck and it just SLAYS through my VH4! :dunno:
 
Ventura":3f0qta43 said:
Lower output pups in general.

Of the BKP varietal? Emeralds, Mules, Abraxas, Black Dogs, Riff Raffs and Mules. Talk to Tim @ BKP and let him know what's up. He knows about Diezel's diggin' lower/moderate output pups.

Cheers,
Uncle Mo
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Lower output pickups gives you a clearer, cleaner, sound which lets your dynamics really shine through.
Especially with Diezel´s and all the gain they have on offer using a high output pup is like adding distortion on distortion.
I prefer to have a good amp do the overdriving, but it´s all a matter of taste of course.
For me, Lundgren pickups are the best I´ve tried so far.
http://www.lundgren.se/en/mics/humbucker-e/
 
emeralds player especially in basswood your ibanez and deizel will be happy
 
I've got a pair of BKP rebel yells in a custom baritone 7 ('hog body and rosewood neck) that sounds great through my Herbert albiet they are are a little too smooth and polite at times. I would think anything in the output range of the rebel yell or lower with a good mid/high emphasis and focused bass would do wonderful for a 7 string into a Herbert. I have heard of people using the liquifire from Dimarzio as a bridge pickup perhaps that could work as the crunchlab is rather high output and warm?
 
:rock: :rock: :rock: I want to thank all of you all, so far, that have replied. Your descriptions in tone and insight are making a difference to help me in my quest for the tone I am looking for. I tried to get :worship: Ola Englund's opinion but he is a busy guy with Six Feet Under.

Thanks and keep it up :rock: :rock: :rock: :thumbsup: :D
 
FOR THE RECORD: I have a 1999 - 7421 Ibanez 7 string is an American Basswood body(black in color with a hardtail string thru body bridge), Maple neck with rosewood fret board, DiMarzio Blaze(cream) neck and bridge.
 
That High/Low pass pot looks very interesting and for less the $30 how can I go wrong. I think I'll have to give that a try.

Great info
 
ras1988":2ns8sfwy said:
I've got a pair of BKP rebel yells in a custom baritone 7 ('hog body and rosewood neck) that sounds great through my Herbert albiet they are are a little too smooth and polite at times. I would think anything in the output range of the rebel yell or lower with a good mid/high emphasis and focused bass would do wonderful for a 7 string into a Herbert. I have heard of people using the liquifire from Dimarzio as a bridge pickup perhaps that could work as the crunchlab is rather high output and warm?
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Those are higher output pups. This "smoothness" you speak of is compression due to the front end getting slammed and then going through the gain stage. I betcha if you slapped a different guitar with 7k output pups at the end of your cable with your EQ as is - you'll be blown out of your boots.

Mojo :D
 
Ventura":me3zdgjk said:
Those are higher output pups. This "smoothness" you speak of is compression due to the front end getting slammed and then going through the gain stage. I betcha if you slapped a different guitar with 7k output pups at the end of your cable with your EQ as is - you'll be blown out of your boots.

Mojo :D
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Agreed I used a pair of blackdogs and PRS 57/08s through the Herb' and there are just so many shades with of gain that can be accessed with you pick attack and the control knobs. It really lets the personality of the amplifier shine if you don't slam the front end too hard as you were saying. Rebel Yells seem to be intrinsically smoother than other pickups in their output and resistance range (comparing them to a nailbomb, coldsweat, and PRS HFS). Might have to do with the wire used and the asymmetrical wind. Great lead and metal/rock pickup with great low end definition just doesn't have the grit or aggression of some other pickups.
 
ras1988":z2hc9o13 said:
Ventura":z2hc9o13 said:
Those are higher output pups. This "smoothness" you speak of is compression due to the front end getting slammed and then going through the gain stage. I betcha if you slapped a different guitar with 7k output pups at the end of your cable with your EQ as is - you'll be blown out of your boots.

Mojo :D
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Agreed I used a pair of blackdogs and PRS 57/08s through the Herb' and there are just so many shades with of gain that can be accessed with you pick attack and the control knobs. It really lets the personality of the amplifier shine if you don't slam the front end too hard as you were saying. Rebel Yells seem to be intrinsically smoother than other pickups in their output and resistance range (comparing them to a nailbomb, coldsweat, and PRS HFS). Might have to do with the wire used and the asymmetrical wind. Great lead and metal/rock pickup with great low end definition just doesn't have the grit or aggression of some other pickups.
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BlackDogs are sick.

I've been really gelling well with my Emeralds in a VH4 capacity too - very sweet and loaded with overtones. The BDs are a blast on the Hagen.

A lot of variables account for the behavior and interaction of pup to amp. I think the lesser output pups are just better with most - but most certainly Diezel - higher gain amps.
 
I've been following this thread with a lot of interest. My main amp is an '04 VH4S. I have a very bright sounding BCR Mockingbird. It is all mahogany, neck thru construction and has a Kahler with brass rollers.

So far it's had a DiMarzio SD (the brightest pup) an SD JB (still pretty bright, not as bright as the DiMarzio) and a BKP Alnico Nailbomb (had that Schenker cocked wah tone). Right now I have an Anderson H2+ and while it's still bright it works tbe best out of the bunch.

The Nailbomb is in another Mock and it sounds killer, much clearer than a JB which in comparison sounds somewhat congested. I really dig the Nailbomb so I emailed Tim at BKP and told him pretty much what I just told you guys. He suggested an Alnico Warpig which being a really hot pickup is counter to what everybody here is advising to use (moderate to low output). Thoughts, comments, other pickup suggestions? TIA

Martin
 
I would give Wade at Motor City Pickups a call for your Mockingbird. I had a BKP Nailbomb and it was close to what I was looking for in a bright guitar, but Wade whipped up an under wound MCP Afwayu for me and it's awesome. Seems like BKP and MCP each fill gaps in each other's lineup. Between the two, most any sound can be found.
 
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