Suhr looking for investment capital

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I have no idea the direction John and Steve are going with the selloff, etc. but it definitely is creating negative feelings in me. It doesn't feel like the Suhr it used to be and that is what I bought into owning 11 Suhr guitars. I sold them all accept my 07 Standard and have no desires to buy another one with what feels like a bastardized company. I am not saying it is by any means. I am simply stating my own perception which is probably inaccurate. I have dealt personally with John, Steve, Don, and others. Even Mike Ponce. It just doesn't feel the same to me as I am only going off what I read, not recent contact so maybe nothing changed. John use to participate allot on here.
 
Some cool guitar production videos on that site!

I don't know what this Avalanche buy-out would mean for the Suhr team. As long as the same people are still making the guitars and amps, it should be fine. Like the Charvel custom shop. If Avalanche decides building guitars in the USA is too expensive...that's when things can get scary!
 
Don't get what all the panic is. Certainly don't understand selling 10 Suhrs based on what is being read on the internet.
 
dfrattaroli":1i9kmtxj said:
Don't get what all the panic is. Certainly don't understand selling 10 Suhrs based on what is being read on the internet.
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I sold those way before any of that. Kept my 07 Standard
 
Just buy used Suhrs? I am guessing anyone that would invest in these guitars won't want to sully the brand too much. Honestly, unless they want to introduced a more broadly available low and mid priced line. For some even the $1900 Moderns is too pricey. If they can do solid offerings that don't skimp on quality for $500 less they could potentially blow up

I don't necessarily understand how these things work so I'll leave it up to the guys that do. Nit sure I'd buy any Suhr unless it was used even with new prices not really being an issue for me.
 
AndyK":iny8hxqq said:
Some cool guitar production videos on that site!

I don't know what this Avalanche buy-out would mean for the Suhr team. As long as the same people are still making the guitars and amps, it should be fine. Like the Charvel custom shop. If Avalanche decides building guitars in the USA is too expensive...that's when things can get scary!
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I can easily see Avalanche, who owns Suhr & knows nothing about guitars or the boutique guitar industry, moving production to China & only keeping a US custom shop branch to lower costs & increase profits.

I love my Suhr guitars, but it's getting a bit weird, & I have a feeling it's going to get a lot weirder in the coming year.
 
When this happened, didn't they say...."were not going to change a thing"
 
I will worry when i see it. Honestly Suhr is making the best gear today that they ever have. Just go on ebay and look at all the amazing Suhr moderns. Plus they are making absolutely the highest quality pedals i have ever picked up. Also there amp line is expanding with some really cool stuff.
 
Doughboy":2tkpo5bt said:
AndyK":2tkpo5bt said:
Some cool guitar production videos on that site!

I don't know what this Avalanche buy-out would mean for the Suhr team. As long as the same people are still making the guitars and amps, it should be fine. Like the Charvel custom shop. If Avalanche decides building guitars in the USA is too expensive...that's when things can get scary!
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I can easily see Avalanche, who owns Suhr & knows nothing about guitars or the boutique guitar industry, moving production to China & only keeping a US custom shop branch to lower costs & increase profits.

I love my Suhr guitars, but it's getting a bit weird, & I have a feeling it's going to get a lot weirder in the coming year.
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Parker & PRS said this as well when they were sold.
 
wow, very interesting. hopefully the quality remains the same.
 
Rezamatix":nte4qrw6 said:
Suhr makes around 100 guitars a month.
Anderson makes like 2-3 a month.

Which do you prefer?
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Are you sure Anderson only builds 2-3 a month?

I've never even seen an Anderson, let alone play one, so maybe they're a super low quantity builder.
 
Pretty sure Anderson finishes about 10-15 guitars a week. Still a lot less than Suhr.
 
How can you not worry? Quality will initially remain the same but if Suhr becomes a public company the shareholders will demand more profits.. cut costs they will say..cut costs they will demand... and eventually you will get lower quality guitars.

Start sourcing cheaper parts, cheaper wood, cut your best employees because they get paid too much... then the "oh, well we can make the same guitars in _____ for less".

Unless you're a Suhr cultist... I don't know how you can't be a bit worried about the future of Suhr.

I hope not- they're one of if not the best builders (imo) atm...but we've seen this played out many times in many industries
 
LWD":2vwduknl said:
Pretty sure Anderson finishes about 10-15 guitars a week. Still a lot less than Suhr.
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This makes much more sense.

Looks & review wise, them seem to be as good as any boutique built guitar out there.

I'll be in LA next week & am going to track down a store that carries these to try them out.
 
Play them and make a determination at that point...if they're good, but one, if they're not, don't. Speculation is meaningless.

Or just buy an Anderson...a modestly superior guitar for around the same price, all things equal.
 
I love the whole anderson vs suhr argument... People make it sound like they are totally interchangeable and just to pick Anderson because they make less guitars. That make no sense. If you have ever actually played a suhr modern and a Anderson Angel you will realize that the neck profiles are completely different!
 
mniel8195":1eh04w9t said:
I love the whole anderson vs suhr argument... People make it sound like they are totally interchangeable and just to pick Anderson because they make less guitars. That make no sense. If you have ever actually played a suhr modern and a Anderson Angel you will realize that the neck profiles are completely different!
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Anderson offers a bunch of neck profiles, as does Suhr. The comparisons exist because the two companies make similar products at similar pricepoints with similar levels of quality and attention to detail. They also are tied closely historically, with Suhr getting his start by building guitars from parts made by Tom.
So, once you get the fine details down (woods, shapes, neck profiles, etc), they are very much interchangeable for the most part.

My reason for calling Anderson "modestly superior" is that although I've played many stellar guitars from each of them, I've never encountered a "dog" from Anderson...I can't say the same about Suhr.
 
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