Thinking about a bogner

[shredhead7]

So I've always wanted an Ecstasy, since Vai used one on ALS. I've had a chance to play one only once and it was wonderful. Well, fast forward to now, I'm married and my funds are tied to what I have into my existing gear. The good news is that I have an Engl SE that will pretty much cover any Bogner that I want to try. So for my question, I had always wanted an Ecstasy, but now I've seen a handful of Shiva videos and I'm a bit torn. I love Marshall and modded Marshall tones. I already own a Cameron modded 800 and a Surreal Atomica, in addition to a Carvin Legacy. I really like all three for various reasons and the Engl was there to cover the heavier spectrum's. I'm primarily a solo player at this point, where my influences range from hair metal, to Shrapnel guys, to hot country guys like Paisley, Lee and the Hellecasters.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

 

[Ventura]

This could get deep

 

[yngzaklynch]

I love my 101b. Thats all i'm sayin

 

[flimz]

I love my Shiva 20th. Thats all Im sayin

 

[Rdodson]

Both 20th Shiva and the Ecstasy can do it - Shiva a bit more modern and Ecstasy a bit more vintage.

 

[se7en]

I love my 101b. Thats all i'm sayin

Oh, OK, OK!

 

[Ventura]

I love my Rev.2, hands down my gawd, holy shiznit that thing slays.
I love my TJ Purple, daaaaayuuum, that thing is nuclear, and holds a bottom end like a jet engine in takeoff made.
You ALL know I love my 20thA EL34 XTC, who wouldn't? It's a Swiss Army knife amp and does everything incredibly well.
And damn straight that 20thA KT88 Sheevs is a wicked lil' piece of kit. Kicks all kinds of ass and has a magical clean to boot.

Amps on my radar? 100B and a 100W Helios incoming

I think about Bogners too. A lot.

 

[Rdodson]

Amps on my radar? 100B and a 100W Helios incoming

I think about Bogners too. A lot.

Make sure and post clips of the Helios when you get it. Can't wait to hear the comparison with the 100B.

 

[supersonic]

I love my Rev.2, hands down my gawd, holy shiznit that thing slays.
I love my TJ Purple, daaaaayuuum, that thing is nuclear, and holds a bottom end like a jet engine in takeoff made.
You ALL know I love my 20thA EL34 XTC, who wouldn't? It's a Swiss Army knife amp and does everything incredibly well.
And damn straight that 20thA KT88 Sheevs is a wicked lil' piece of kit. Kicks all kinds of ass and has a magical clean to boot.

Amps on my radar? 100B and a 100W Helios incoming

I think about Bogners too. A lot.

Have you bought a 100B?

 

[yngzaklynch]

Both 20th Shiva and the Ecstasy can do it - Shiva a bit more modern and Ecstasy a bit more vintage.

I guess i equate gain with being modern which is why i am confused by this. I have played through a few Shivas. None of them had nearly as much gain as the Ecstasy.

 

[glassjaw7]

If we're talking about the standard el34 Shiva then yes, the Ecstasy has more gain on tap. But while the Ecstasy has more gain, it has a less "hard" voicing. It's very smooth with a little white hot sizzle while the Shiva is more JCM brash and in your face. That's my take after playing several of each and having a 101b in the house for awhile.

 

[yngzaklynch]

I know what you mean. To me the Shiva is Bogners take on the JCM800 with a great clean channel. The XTC is their high gain channel switcher. All Bogners are great. The XTC is simply better for the stuff i like. Can't blame anyone for liking something different. You gotta play what does it for you

 

[Shawn Lutz]

I own a 101B w/Bogner 4x12 and love it. I also loved with a 6L6 Shiva combo I tried. With the amps you currently have you cover a good tonal ground covered but if you want to ad a Bogner I havent heard an Ecstasy or Shiva I didnt like

 

[smdb]

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Do it!

 

[Kidkramer71]

If you can come up with the funds I say grab an Ecstacy all the way !!!
One of the most versatile amps around !!

 

[Holy Schnikes]

If you can come up with the funds I say grab an Ecstacy all the way !!!
One of the most versatile amps around !!

This.

 

[cheney693]

Blue fish
amazing

 

[oz72]

Hi Guys,

First I was deciding between the XTC and the CAA OD100 SE+. Digging the reviews and sound clips the XTC won. The question now is which XTC to choose?
Unfortunately in that part of Europe, where I live there is no real chance of testing and real comparison and I'm looking for used amps.
I have the opportunity to get a Classic version , which I could pick up with 2 x 5 hours of driving (and later install the marvel mod), or should I take a risk of a oversea transport to get a 20th version? The overall costs would be more or less the same...
I'm in a cover band, playing various styles from Rolling Stones to Faith No More...
The common sense says take the CAA as it comes with a CAA 2x12 included and the price is still lower then the XTC amp only. But I also tried a CAA standard + some month ago and I was not really confused.

I'm interested in any advice and opinion.

 

[Kidkramer71]

I think I would grab the one that's close to you .
I would also personally use v30's or something close with an Ecstacy I think they spud best with them .
Cabs make a huge difference as well as speakers .
Once you she'll out for the head if you don't have the right cab it won't sound as good .
For my Ecstacy the best match I have found is my matching Bogner 4x12 with all celestion vintage 30's.
I have an Uberschall and an ubercab with 2 gt75's and 2 v30's
And I think the bogner cab with all 4 v30's sounds better with that as well .
Best of luck !!
Let us know how it turns out ?
Jim

 

[Death by Uberschall]

I love my Rev.2, hands down my gawd, holy shiznit that thing slays.

This is really all you need.