Tone Springs

[mrp5150]

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The good folks over at the ESP Custom Lab realized the extra tone additional springs add to your guitar and developed a set of special springs which allows you to use FIVE (yes FIVE!!) springs on a guitar with a floating trem. Using a special composite metal that is both strong and flexible, the Tremolo Tone Springs allow you to gain the added tone benefits of extra springs but with the same buttery smooth trem action as a guitar with 2-3 springs.

While it is hard to believe, it makes sense scientifically when you consider that each spring is responsible for transferring energy from your trem/string to your guitars body. Think of each spring as a highway lane and the string energy(the vibrations) as being cars. By increasing the number of highway lanes(more springs) you can transfer more cars(or in our case more string energy to the body).

I can't imagine them making much of a difference at all, but maybe they could?

 

[cyndicate]

Wonder if its any different, didnt EJ say something about having more springs in that HC video interview clip.

Gotta love the FAQ part in the listing

 

[JackBootedThug]

the tone is not in the fingers, it's in the springs!!

 

[mrp5150]

the tone is not in the fingers, it's in the springs!!

 

[Phishphood]

Couldn't you accomplish the exact same thing for less money with weaker non esp branded springs?

 

[degenaro]

Let me guess, most folks that buy those will put it into guitars with 2 post trems or better yet Floyds...

 

[Digital Jams]

Let me guess, most folks that buy those will put it into guitars with 2 post trems or better yet Floyds...

Yup

Not buying this.

 

[Shiny_Surface]

Wow...

 

[tweed]

Next it will be a certain metal flake that is specially mixed into the paint. Combined with a space aged polymer to give you a bulletproof finish as well as let the wood breathe better for more tone.

 

[Odin]

Floyd Rose and "tone" don't belong in the same sentence. A Floyd attacks tone from every angle.

 

[Mudder]

I wonder if there is a subtle difference in tone when you use springs that are all of the same tension/homogenous material vs a mixed bag of springs...

I can hardly tell when I'm out of tune let alone what springs or how many there are so maybe I'm just talking out my ass.

 

[Odin]

Are you taping yor cords to the stage with duct tape or actual gaffers tape? The duct tape will suck tone.

 

[Chubtone]

Floyd Rose and "tone" don't belong in the same sentence. A Floyd attacks tone from every angle.

Sweet, thanks for the info! Be sure and let Eddie Van Halen, George Lynch, Warren DiMartini, Ronni Le Tekro, Akira Takasaki, Wolf Hoffman and most of the other guys who have my favorite all time tones know.

 

[itsme]

Floyd Rose and "tone" don't belong in the same sentence. A Floyd attacks tone from every angle.

Sweet, thanks for the info! Be sure and let Eddie Van Halen, George Lynch, Warren DiMartini, Ronni Le Tekro, Akira Takasaki, Wolf Hoffman and most of the other guys who have my favorite all time tones know.

+1

I love my LP bridges, and my string thru, but I also love my Floyd.

 

[Odin]

Floyd Rose and "tone" don't belong in the same sentence. A Floyd attacks tone from every angle.

Sweet, thanks for the info! Be sure and let Eddie Van Halen, George Lynch, Warren DiMartini, Ronni Le Tekro, Akira Takasaki, Wolf Hoffman and most of the other guys who have my favorite all time tones know.

All guys who played with so much gain that the "tone" of their guitar was secondary, at best.

And EVH and Lynch and DeMartini are some of my favorite players, and I love their guitar tones. But those guys could get their sound from just about any humbucker Strat-style guitar because they play very gainy.

Plug a Floyd equipped guitar into a blackface Deluxe Reverb with the volume on 4 and see how it sounds compared to a nice Strat or Les paul or Tele, etc...

Floyds are great at what they do, I still have a Floyd guitar (and an old Kahler equipped Charvel) but I wouldn't consider any of those guitars as tonally great sounding instruments. I play them through mid to high gain amps and they sound great. Plug that old Charvel into a Dr Z Maz 38 and it's pretty uninspiring.

 

[mrp5150]

Floyd Rose and "tone" don't belong in the same sentence. A Floyd attacks tone from every angle.

Sweet, thanks for the info! Be sure and let Eddie Van Halen, George Lynch, Warren DiMartini, Ronni Le Tekro, Akira Takasaki, Wolf Hoffman and most of the other guys who have my favorite all time tones know.

All guys who played with so much gain that the "tone" of their guitar was secondary, at best.

And EVH and Lynch and DeMartini are some of my favorite players, and I love their guitar tones. But those guys could get their sound from just about any humbucker Strat-style guitar because they play very gainy.

Plug a Floyd equipped guitar into a blackface Deluxe Reverb with the volume on 4 and see how it sounds compared to a nice Strat or Les paul or Tele, etc...

Floyds are great at what they do, I still have a Floyd guitar (and an old Kahler equipped Charvel) but I wouldn't consider any of those guitars as tonally great sounding instruments. I play them through mid to high gain amps and they sound great. Plug that old Charvel into a Dr Z Maz 38 and it's pretty uninspiring.

 

[Chubtone]

Mega, funny response man. Yes, I would agree that a Charvel with a Floyd and a hot pickup is not the right guitar for a vintage Fender amp. Just like my '66 strat is pretty uninspiring into my Quickrod, my JCM800 or my early Super Leads. Right tool for the job and all that.

 

[Strat+Marshall]

Floyd Rose and "tone" don't belong in the same sentence. A Floyd attacks tone from every angle.

All guys who played with so much gain that the "tone" of their guitar was secondary, at best.

And EVH and Lynch and DeMartini are some of my favorite players, and I love their guitar tones. But those guys could get their sound from just about any humbucker Strat-style guitar because they play very gainy.

Plug a Floyd equipped guitar into a blackface Deluxe Reverb with the volume on 4 and see how it sounds compared to a nice Strat or Les paul or Tele, etc...

Floyds are great at what they do, I still have a Floyd guitar (and an old Kahler equipped Charvel) but I wouldn't consider any of those guitars as tonally great sounding instruments. I play them through mid to high gain amps and they sound great. Plug that old Charvel into a Dr Z Maz 38 and it's pretty uninspiring.

I had a 73 strat with a floyd that sounded great in the neck middle positions through my pro reverb or old marshall set clean. Much better than most strats with a typical bridge. It definitely affected the tone but there would have to be a clear definition of what tone is to analyze whether it "attacked" it or not. If you could tell me some frequencies that are tone maybe I could tell you whether it attacked them or not...

What kind of pickups does a charvel have?

Ive never heard a JB/Super distortion etc or other higher output humbucker sound very good through a clean amp. If those type of guitars have singles they are usually pretty poor as well.

I wont even get into how some woods that are used for "rock" guitars don't resonate very well and all that other important stuff that people who actually build/repair/play guitars know about.

Oh, and I don't hear much thats inspiring from Dr Zs either, even with a great guitar. I have heard them sound decent but everyone that I have heard play one sounded better through their old Fender/Vox/Marshall.

 

[Odin]

Mega, funny response man. Yes, I would agree that a Charvel with a Floyd and a hot pickup is not the right guitar for a vintage Fender amp. Just like my '66 strat is pretty uninspiring into my Quickrod, my JCM800 or my early Super Leads. Right tool for the job and all that.

Really? I absolutely love the sound of a good Strat through my Quickrod or just about any good old Marshall, especially Super Leads. In fact my Quickrod inspired me to buy another Strat because I'd forgotten how good a Strat can sound with a little Marshall-style gain.

 

[degenaro]

Floyd Rose and "tone" don't belong in the same sentence. A Floyd attacks tone from every angle.

Sweet, thanks for the info! Be sure and let Eddie Van Halen, George Lynch, Warren DiMartini, Ronni Le Tekro, Akira Takasaki, Wolf Hoffman and most of the other guys who have my favorite all time tones know.

You really think they aren't aware of the difference? I got about 5 guitars with a Floyd, still. And I love that you can mangle the hell out of them without retuning once in all night gigs. However since you mention EVH, take listen to the first album before he got a Floyd to when he started using a Floyd. Hell, there's a huge difference in sound between silver and black Floyds.