Torpedo Live question

[reverymike]

So, with the Two Notes Torpedo Live, am I correct in assuming you can run your amp and cab as usual (mic up your cab), and then take a line out of the Live and feed the PA with a second signal, with a mic preset, and then mix the two signals to the FOH? I'm thinking this would be a great way to fatten things up and create the audio illusion of using two different amps, because you could choose a different sounding cabinet and mix it with your mic'd up cab and it'd add a lot of additional frequencies.

 

[steve_k]

So, with the Two Notes Torpedo Live, am I correct in assuming you can run your amp and cab as usual (mic up your cab), and then take a line out of the Live and feed the PA with a second signal, with a mic preset, and then mix the two signals to the FOH? I'm thinking this would be a great way to fatten things up and create the audio illusion of using two different amps, because you could choose a different sounding cabinet and mix it with your mic'd up cab and it'd add a lot of additional frequencies.

Yep....for sure. When I first got it, I was planning to do just that. But, getting the cab offstage worked out better for me and just using active monitors and direct to FOH.

 

[fuzzyguitars]

yes to the question.

much easier to just take the line out though.

 

[reverymike]

Do you mean just to skip the cabinet altogether? Run direct? I think I'd feel weird with no cab onstage. . .I'd have to get used to that.

 

[steve_k]

Do you mean just to skip the cabinet altogether? Run direct? I think I'd feel weird with no cab onstage. . .I'd have to get used to that.

Well, it took me all of about 5 minutes to really dig it. The soundman loves it, as does the rest of the band. Cuts out all the ambient and doesn't blow the folks away standing in the line of fire of the cab. I use two RCF 700 watt active monitors. We have control of our monitor mix and I split in and out of our monitor mixer then to FOH. The other 3 get me in their IEM's and I put a bit of vocals and bass in one of my monitors with all me in the other. These FRFR monitors don't disperse much and I have zero trouble hearing myself at all, or feeling the amp. Same as I used with the Axe FX.

But, you can go both ways if you still want a cab onstage and yes, use the onboard EQ to affect the line out signal. It would be like using two amps almost - if you wanted.

 

[PBGas]

Do you mean just to skip the cabinet altogether? Run direct? I think I'd feel weird with no cab onstage. . .I'd have to get used to that.

I felt the same way....I did this last week and I just didn't look behind me! We didn't have enough space on stage.

 

[amiller]

Not to hijack this thread but what do you guys think of the Torpedo's tone? Does it sound as good as guitar -> amp -> cab?

 

[fuzzyguitars]

Not to hijack this thread but what do you guys think of the Torpedo's tone? Does it sound as good as guitar -> amp -> cab?

yes.

and the amp still reacts the same too.

so the "feel" of the amp remains intact.

 

[Jofipe]

Does the LIVE or C.A.B have any onboard stereo master FX? Say you want some sort of a crazy room vibe going on...

 

[wIsEbLooD]

does it have a loop?

 

[sysexguy]

The Torpedo does not have a loop or time or modulation effects. You will get excellent results either by putting effects in the amp's effect loop or placing the effects after the speaker simulation of the Torpedo.

Andy

 

[Deleted member 16554]

Not to hijack this thread but what do you guys think of the Torpedo's tone? Does it sound as good as guitar -> amp -> cab?

yes.

and the amp still reacts the same too.

so the "feel" of the amp remains intact.

just spent an hour with the cameron plugged in first and then the diezel, sounds freakin killer, what an incredible product!!!

 

[steve_k]

Everything is better without a cab! It is a relief not having to try 4 or 5 different cabs and get into that speaker debate and rewiring a cabinet. Gone are those days my friend.

Analog met Digital.....

 

[steve_k]

I cant rely on any sound man. Unless I pay one to be there. Nice piece of gear. And I want one. but more for recording. How would anyone here put it up against the Axe 2 straight into a DAW?
Or how about into a Mic Pre like a API 500 series?

That's the good thing about it. Tweak up your amp EQ and the onboard EQ on the TNTL. Send it to a flat EQ FOH mixer. Just tell the soundman to adjust as required over the top of your signal. It's almost idiot proof for any DJ cum Soundman....

Running through a high end mic-pre, I don't know, but it would be great. I can tell the signal won't clip the Mackine Onyx pre's in my mixer. But, I think an outboard mic-pre would be great. No first hand experience though.

Maybe talk direct to the Two Notes guys Reza. They are extremely helpful and want the feedback.

Steve

 

[sysexguy]

IMHO, best path to DAW would via the spdif digital input. This requires that your DAW is operating at either 48 or 96kHz but has several advantages; lowest possible latency and the ability to re-torpedo a dry signal using the PI-101 plug in, either to double/triple layer the original sound, or to completely redo the speaker/micing process once the rest of the tracks are recorded.

If you wish to use the analog line output, a suitable pad should be used before using a mic pre' primary input. Generally, the Torpedo's output shouldn't need any more coloration from a mic pre unless you were going for an extreme effect but there would be subtle but audible differences when properly gain staged at line level and going into different higher end pre-amplifiers. You may want to check out http://classicapi.com/catalog/product_i ... cts_id=222

which is a 500 series modules that emulates a vintage API console's signal path.

I would caution against running the Torpedo trs line out to xlr into a mic pre-amp on a typically very popular line of grey/silver mini mixers that claims that with the gain fully to the left, the pre-amp is calibrated to line level..... it works but imho doesn't sound quite right, Guillaume will agree, we often face this when visiting stores to do demos. Run into the line input 1/4 jack instead.

Finally, if the sound of a particular pre-amp is really important, one can create one's own IR's using Torpedo Capture using that pre-amp as part of the signal path for the capture.

Andy

 

[Shark Diver]

I love my LIVE. Would like to try the CLRs to see if that makes any difference from the wedges I use now.

 

[scottkahn]

We're almost done with our formal product review of the Live, and I'll say this... it's the first item we've reviewed in seven years where multiple people on the editorial team (myself included) purchased one of the products. It's THAT good.

Live, don't waste your time miking your cabinet. And if you're running in-ear monitors, yes, feel free to leave the cabinet at home entirely. In the studio, mike your cabinet, record that to one track and the Live output to another. And if you can record via the digital S/PDIF outs, that sends the dry amp signal to one track and the processes signal to another, so you can experiment with cabinet models via plug-in or reamping afterwards.

Killer hardware. Worth the price. Doesn't mess with your tone or your amp's response.

Scott

 

[Shark Diver]

We're almost done with our formal product review of the Live, and I'll say this... it's the first item we've reviewed in seven years where multiple people on the editorial team (myself included) purchased one of the products. It's THAT good.

Live, don't waste your time miking your cabinet. And if you're running in-ear monitors, yes, feel free to leave the cabinet at home entirely. In the studio, mike your cabinet, record that to one track and the Live output to another. And if you can record via the digital S/PDIF outs, that sends the dry amp signal to one track and the processes signal to another, so you can experiment with cabinet models via plug-in or reamping afterwards.

Killer hardware. Worth the price. Doesn't mess with your tone or your amp's response.

Scott

Very cool. Congrats! Two Notes