Treble Bleed For Guitars with No Tone Pot

[metalmaniac93]

Has anyone tried this on their no tone pot guitars like the Charvels. I was looking to put one on my USA Charvel (1-H) and old Kramer Baretta (1-H). I know Jerry at Luxxtone does this to his guitars. Just curious and if so, how do you choose the value of capacitor? What is the actual over all effect?

 

[TeleBlaster]

I would love to do this on my Cabronita as well, a push-pull engaging a treble bleed equivalent to about halfway on a tone pot.

 

[singtall]

for me, a treble bleeder is a must-have. i use the seymour duncan recommended values and it adds some brightness/clarity is you roll back your volume control. very cool if you want that EVH tone.

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[Kapo_Polenton]

Thanks for posting singtall, good link that is. I could use that too. Simple, I like it.

 

[luxxtone]

Has anyone tried this on their no tone pot guitars like the Charvels. I was looking to put one on my USA Charvel (1-H) and old Kramer Baretta (1-H). I know Jerry at Luxxtone does this to his guitars. Just curious and if so, how do you choose the value of capacitor? What is the actual over all effect?

A treble bleed retains some brightness and high end that you sometimes loose when you roll down the volume pot. A lot depends on the pickups, pots, amp and cable that you're using, they all affect the amount of treble loss when rolling down the volume. Some guitars it's pretty bad, some not so much. But I do like to use them.

As for value, I personally voice them for each individual guitar and pickup, they don't always use the same value. But the Duncan diagram is great and probably the most common value. I personally use silver mica caps ranging between 47pF and 100pF with no resistor.

 

[luxxtone]

I would love to do this on my Cabronita as well, a push-pull engaging a treble bleed equivalent to about halfway on a tone pot.

That's a very cool trick! We just did that on one of our latest builds, it sounds great. It's basically just engaging a cap, not technically a treble bleed. I used a .0047uF orange drop cap, which gave it like a half-cocked wah sound and some top end roll off. You can experiment with other values. Best part is, the caps are so cheap and it doesn't hardly cost anything to buy a bunch of different ones!

 

[mjtripper]

I use a 1000pF cap with a 220K resistor in parallel with my duncan jb/jazz and 59/59 setups. Works great and keeps basically the same tone when you roll the vol down.