Tried a 5150III today.

[JakeAC5253]

Got to try one through the 5150III cab. It sounded nice. I only got to try it out pretty softly because I was trying to be nice this time It doesn't have a resonance knob like the 5150/5150II, or at least one that I could see. This made it a little harder to dial in a traditional 5150 sound out of it, but it had its own tone, which was pretty good. It seemed a little more open than a 5150, but there was something about the mids that I didn't like, whereas the mids on a 5150 fucking gush. I went back and forth between a 6505+ and 5150III and for a while it was a pretty close call between them. When you take into account putting a 6505+ against it is like handicapping it to win. The real test is 6505 against 5150III. Weigh that against the fact that the 5150III is twice the price of a 5150 and I think you won't find me owning one anytime soon. It was fun to play though. Dialed differently than the Peavey version.

The guitar I tried it with was my Jackson RR3 with modded JB in the bridge and Jazz in the neck.

 

[FIREBALL]

5150ii rules

 

[Anonymous]

the 5150 III has a great clean, crunch, and similar high gain channel..so if you want a variety of sounds the III is worth the extras cash IMHO. The amp really sounds great live...my main gigging amp.

 

[NinjaRaf]

Yeah, I spent an hour with a III through an avatar 212 at samash last weekend. It was fucking amazing. I LOVED the lead channel tone.

 

[Les Zombie]

5153 is really cool, i loved mine in a band situation when you could crank it up, its a damn nice amp.

 

[Bishop5150]

It's my main amp gigging amp as well. Does everything I need from clean to crunch to over the top. It sounds really sweet when you can open up the volume. I don't get to a lot but we do a few outdoor festival shows each year and I can crank it up. Sounds killer.

 

[shreddyteddy]

first of all there is no difference between a 5150 and a 6505
there is no difference between a 5150II and a 6505+
There is just a xtra tube in the preamps of the 5150II and the 6505+
Peaveys contract with eddie van halen and could not use the 5150 name anymore so they changed the model to the 6505.
the 65 commemorates the 65 yrs of peavey and the 05 represents the year it came out.
all 4 amps the 5150 5150II 6505 and the 6505+ are all peaveys.
The EVH 5150III is a fender product. Has nothing to do with peavey. Just because it has 5150 in the name people think its a peavey. Personally I think the peaveys sound harsh and kinda brittle. Truthfully they are made with cheap parts thats why they can sell for so little. The 5150III was basically handmade from Eddie himself and sent to fender to preproduce. I would take a 5150III anyday of the week over the peavey. The little things inside the amp make a huge difference in the tone of the amp. The 5150III sounds great IMO and is a amp to stay for a while... People just like the 5150s and the 6505s because they have a ton of gain and low end (which sounds like crap cuz its loose and flubby not tight) and can al that gain can make up for a bad or sloppy player. The EQ on the peaveys suck and its only voiced for modern metal and its voiced bad at that. The 5150III has a great eq and its taylored to all guitarist. Just because a company says the amp can play all styles of music doesnt mean it can. Thats a marketing ploy

 

[roadifier]

first of all there is no difference between a 5150 and a 6505
there is no difference between a 5150II and a 6505+
There is just a xtra tube in the preamps of the 5150II and the 6505+
Peaveys contract with eddie van halen and could not use the 5150 name anymore so they changed the model to the 6505.
the 65 commemorates the 65 yrs of peavey and the 05 represents the year it came out.
all 4 amps the 5150 5150II 6505 and the 6505+ are all peaveys.
The EVH 5150III is a fender product. Has nothing to do with peavey. Just because it has 5150 in the name people think its a peavey. Personally I think the peaveys sound harsh and kinda brittle. Truthfully they are made with cheap parts thats why they can sell for so little. The 5150III was basically handmade from Eddie himself and sent to fender to preproduce. I would take a 5150III anyday of the week over the peavey. The little things inside the amp make a huge difference in the tone of the amp. The 5150III sounds great IMO and is a amp to stay for a while... People just like the 5150s and the 6505s because they have a ton of gain and low end (which sounds like crap cuz its loose and flubby not tight) and can al that gain can make up for a bad or sloppy player. The EQ on the peaveys suck and its only voiced for modern metal and its voiced bad at that. The 5150III has a great eq and its taylored to all guitarist. Just because a company says the amp can play all styles of music doesnt mean it can. Thats a marketing ploy

Everyone has different opinions, like me, I love the peavey 5150's. and the 5153 is made in mexico, not handmade.

 

[glpg80]

first of all there is no difference between a 5150 and a 6505
there is no difference between a 5150II and a 6505+
There is just a xtra tube in the preamps of the 5150II and the 6505+
Peaveys contract with eddie van halen and could not use the 5150 name anymore so they changed the model to the 6505.
the 65 commemorates the 65 yrs of peavey and the 05 represents the year it came out.
all 4 amps the 5150 5150II 6505 and the 6505+ are all peaveys.
The EVH 5150III is a fender product. Has nothing to do with peavey. Just because it has 5150 in the name people think its a peavey. Personally I think the peaveys sound harsh and kinda brittle. Truthfully they are made with cheap parts thats why they can sell for so little. The 5150III was basically handmade from Eddie himself and sent to fender to preproduce. I would take a 5150III anyday of the week over the peavey. The little things inside the amp make a huge difference in the tone of the amp. The 5150III sounds great IMO and is a amp to stay for a while... People just like the 5150s and the 6505s because they have a ton of gain and low end (which sounds like crap cuz its loose and flubby not tight) and can al that gain can make up for a bad or sloppy player. The EQ on the peaveys suck and its only voiced for modern metal and its voiced bad at that. The 5150III has a great eq and its taylored to all guitarist. Just because a company says the amp can play all styles of music doesnt mean it can. Thats a marketing ploy

you obviously forgot the fact that 5150's are not your bedroom amplifier. the low end is not loose and flubby, because the amplifier was designed from the ground up to be played with the volume UP, not with the volume OFF.

you put a 5150 where it belongs - with the volume on 3.5+ - and then tell me the low end is loose and flubby and the tonestack sucks. the same goes for people griping about it being only for metal - i have owned 3 5150's and currently own two 5150 cabinets and can play anything from blues to metal to country on it. just because you dont have a fucking clue how to operate a volume knob on your guitar does not mean you can blame the amplifier.

 

[Anonymous]

 

[roadifier]

first of all there is no difference between a 5150 and a 6505
there is no difference between a 5150II and a 6505+
There is just a xtra tube in the preamps of the 5150II and the 6505+
Peaveys contract with eddie van halen and could not use the 5150 name anymore so they changed the model to the 6505.
the 65 commemorates the 65 yrs of peavey and the 05 represents the year it came out.
all 4 amps the 5150 5150II 6505 and the 6505+ are all peaveys.
The EVH 5150III is a fender product. Has nothing to do with peavey. Just because it has 5150 in the name people think its a peavey. Personally I think the peaveys sound harsh and kinda brittle. Truthfully they are made with cheap parts thats why they can sell for so little. The 5150III was basically handmade from Eddie himself and sent to fender to preproduce. I would take a 5150III anyday of the week over the peavey. The little things inside the amp make a huge difference in the tone of the amp. The 5150III sounds great IMO and is a amp to stay for a while... People just like the 5150s and the 6505s because they have a ton of gain and low end (which sounds like crap cuz its loose and flubby not tight) and can al that gain can make up for a bad or sloppy player. The EQ on the peaveys suck and its only voiced for modern metal and its voiced bad at that. The 5150III has a great eq and its taylored to all guitarist. Just because a company says the amp can play all styles of music doesnt mean it can. Thats a marketing ploy

you obviously forgot the fact that 5150's are not your bedroom amplifier. the low end is not loose and flubby, because the amplifier was designed from the ground up to be played with the volume UP, not with the volume OFF.

you put a 5150 where it belongs - with the volume on 3.5+ - and then tell me the low end is loose and flubby and the tonestack sucks. the same goes for people griping about it being only for metal - i have owned 3 5150's and currently own two 5150 cabinets and can play anything from blues to metal to country on it. just because you dont have a fucking clue how to operate a volume knob on your guitar does not mean you can blame the amplifier.

+1000

 

[Motorpud]

first of all there is no difference between a 5150 and a 6505
there is no difference between a 5150II and a 6505+
There is just a xtra tube in the preamps of the 5150II and the 6505+
Peaveys contract with eddie van halen and could not use the 5150 name anymore so they changed the model to the 6505.
the 65 commemorates the 65 yrs of peavey and the 05 represents the year it came out.
all 4 amps the 5150 5150II 6505 and the 6505+ are all peaveys.
The EVH 5150III is a fender product. Has nothing to do with peavey. Just because it has 5150 in the name people think its a peavey. Personally I think the peaveys sound harsh and kinda brittle. Truthfully they are made with cheap parts thats why they can sell for so little. The 5150III was basically handmade from Eddie himself and sent to fender to preproduce. I would take a 5150III anyday of the week over the peavey. The little things inside the amp make a huge difference in the tone of the amp. The 5150III sounds great IMO and is a amp to stay for a while... People just like the 5150s and the 6505s because they have a ton of gain and low end (which sounds like crap cuz its loose and flubby not tight) and can al that gain can make up for a bad or sloppy player. The EQ on the peaveys suck and its only voiced for modern metal and its voiced bad at that. The 5150III has a great eq and its taylored to all guitarist. Just because a company says the amp can play all styles of music doesnt mean it can. Thats a marketing ploy

You must really be touchy about 5150s if you joined up just to go off on a quick rant

 

[glpg80]

Got to try one through the 5150III cab. It sounded nice. I only got to try it out pretty softly because I was trying to be nice this time It doesn't have a resonance knob like the 5150/5150II, or at least one that I could see. This made it a little harder to dial in a traditional 5150 sound out of it, but it had its own tone, which was pretty good. It seemed a little more open than a 5150, but there was something about the mids that I didn't like, whereas the mids on a 5150 fucking gush. I went back and forth between a 6505+ and 5150III and for a while it was a pretty close call between them. When you take into account putting a 6505+ against it is like handicapping it to win. The real test is 6505 against 5150III. Weigh that against the fact that the 5150III is twice the price of a 5150 and I think you won't find me owning one anytime soon. It was fun to play though. Dialed differently than the Peavey version.

The guitar I tried it with was my Jackson RR3 with modded JB in the bridge and Jazz in the neck.

5150 III's were made to record well IMHO - to be more bedroom friendly as well. they also play alot easier than a 5150 II IMHO - not as much fighting with the amplifier so to speak. you can pull off some pretty daring licks with the volume up and pull them off cleanly using no effects/bone dry amplifier where i wouldnt have the guts or feeling from a 5150 II to even attempt the same moves.

5150 III's are also very well designed, too bad they are poorly built and use some pretty insane switching circuits to keep the noise down which is where everyone is complaining about the problems.

it is definately better than a DSL IMO. i actually EQ it the same as i do my 5150 II with good results.

there is a voicing thing going on in the gain i cant quite put my finger on though that i dont like. CCV's are guilty of it as well, and its a clean character under the gain of the amplifier. hard to catch, but its there. definately bugs the shit out of me when im not the one playing and have the chance to listen to the amplifier.

the build quality is a bummer as well, and the amplifier does not hold its balls together very well with the matching cabinet like a 5150 does - volumes above 4.5 and the ones i have played got too loose, mushy, sounded pretty bad. 5150's stock hold their own all the way to 10 - usually no difference in volume from 8-10, 4.5-6.5 is the largest difference other than 1-2.

 

[Jeff Hilligan]

I love mine! My only grip is the master at part your hair on 1. Gotta swap them out for a slower volume. I don't have to buy and amp mod it and then flip it. It does everything I want. A great clean channel, VH old school and compressed high gain!

 

[crankyrayhanky]

People just like the 5150s and the 6505s because they have a ton of gain and low end (which sounds like crap cuz its loose and flubby not tight) and can al that gain can make up for a bad or sloppy player.

That's a selling point for me, we all can't be shreddy

 

[JakeAC5253]

first of all there is no difference between a 5150 and a 6505
there is no difference between a 5150II and a 6505+
There is just a xtra tube in the preamps of the 5150II and the 6505+
Peaveys contract with eddie van halen and could not use the 5150 name anymore so they changed the model to the 6505.
the 65 commemorates the 65 yrs of peavey and the 05 represents the year it came out.
all 4 amps the 5150 5150II 6505 and the 6505+ are all peaveys.
The EVH 5150III is a fender product. Has nothing to do with peavey. Just because it has 5150 in the name people think its a peavey. Personally I think the peaveys sound harsh and kinda brittle. Truthfully they are made with cheap parts thats why they can sell for so little. The 5150III was basically handmade from Eddie himself and sent to fender to preproduce. I would take a 5150III anyday of the week over the peavey. The little things inside the amp make a huge difference in the tone of the amp. The 5150III sounds great IMO and is a amp to stay for a while... People just like the 5150s and the 6505s because they have a ton of gain and low end (which sounds like crap cuz its loose and flubby not tight) and can al that gain can make up for a bad or sloppy player. The EQ on the peaveys suck and its only voiced for modern metal and its voiced bad at that. The 5150III has a great eq and its taylored to all guitarist. Just because a company says the amp can play all styles of music doesnt mean it can. Thats a marketing ploy

You must really be touchy about 5150s if you joined up just to go off on a quick rant

Not to mention on a thread that's been dead for almost a full year!

 

[JakeAC5253]

there is a voicing thing going on in the gain i cant quite put my finger on though that i dont like. CCV's are guilty of it as well, and its a clean character under the gain of the amplifier. hard to catch, but its there. definately bugs the shit out of me when im not the one playing and have the chance to listen to the amplifier.

Yeah, I hear you on that. I haven't seen a schematic for it, but I'm guessing that it bleeds too much high end off in the preamp section. Bleeding high end to ground within the context of a preamp voicing circuit is a good thing because it smooths the sound while offering more tonal control, but too much smoothing and the sound gets dull with a dead feel. Just a blind guess if I had to make one.

 

[the4thlast1]

Ive owned several 5150's over the years and for me the 5153 is just a better sounding amplifier all around..... The original 5150's have a unique sound which I do still like. I just think the 5153 is on another level. For the used prices they go for I think its a steal.

 

[lolzgreg]

first of all there is no difference between a 5150 and a 6505
there is no difference between a 5150II and a 6505+
There is just a xtra tube in the preamps of the 5150II and the 6505+
Peaveys contract with eddie van halen and could not use the 5150 name anymore so they changed the model to the 6505.
the 65 commemorates the 65 yrs of peavey and the 05 represents the year it came out.
all 4 amps the 5150 5150II 6505 and the 6505+ are all peaveys.
The EVH 5150III is a fender product. Has nothing to do with peavey. Just because it has 5150 in the name people think its a peavey. Personally I think the peaveys sound harsh and kinda brittle. Truthfully they are made with cheap parts thats why they can sell for so little. The 5150III was basically handmade from Eddie himself and sent to fender to preproduce. I would take a 5150III anyday of the week over the peavey. The little things inside the amp make a huge difference in the tone of the amp. The 5150III sounds great IMO and is a amp to stay for a while... People just like the 5150s and the 6505s because they have a ton of gain and low end (which sounds like crap cuz its loose and flubby not tight) and can al that gain can make up for a bad or sloppy player. The EQ on the peaveys suck and its only voiced for modern metal and its voiced bad at that. The 5150III has a great eq and its taylored to all guitarist. Just because a company says the amp can play all styles of music doesnt mean it can. Thats a marketing ploy

This post sucks, and so do you.

a. your information is wrong. a 5150 II/6505+ IS NOT just a preamp tube away from a 5150. The entire rhythm channel is different, and the lead channel is somewhere around 13 components different. The II/+ has less gain, more high mids, and less low end overall.

b. Try telling Andy Sneap, one of the undisputed kings of metal guitar tone, that a 5150 sucks. He uses them on 6/10 of all his recordings somewhere, and he could own whatever the hell he wants in the world.

c. You probably don't know how to dial in an amp if you say a 5150 "sucks." There's nothing suck about it.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1569935/5150-51 ... ARISON.wav

If you're so good, here's a clip with a 5150, 5150 II, and 5150 III. Same cab, same mic, same guitar DIs. Tell me which is which.

First amp is at 0:00, second is at 0:30, third is at 0:60.

If you even try to argue that there is a monumental difference in sound, you're trollin' son.

 

[crankyrayhanky]

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1569935/5150-5150II-5150%20COMPARISON.wav

If you're so good, here's a clip with a 5150, 5150 II, and 5150 III. Same cab, same mic, same guitar DIs. Tell me which is which.

First amp is at 0:00, second is at 0:30, third is at 0:60.

If you even try to argue that there is a monumental difference in sound, you're trollin' son

I don't which is which, but :60 has a much livelier tone with more edge and gain..a bit more volume too which makes it an unfair comparison.

Not a huge difference, but a difference is there