Trump and Rubio secure Congo-Rwanda peace deal

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This is great news to me and not getting a lot of play in the mainstream media. Congo has been a victim of european extortion and destabilization for basically a century in order to steal their many valuable resources. The Congo deserves peace and stability for once. Do you think Kamala or other female president would've been able to pull that off? Not on your life.
 
rsm said:
Now, time to restore Rhodesia, and the Afrikaners.
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He has the ability to whip Zimbabwe back into shape with sanctions and aid since we are giving them several hundred million per year, most of which was probably grifted by communist elements through the USAID scam.

I wouldn't advocate returning to an apartheid system with minority representation running everything but I do think he could arrange a little more beneficial system for all the parties involved there. That place has been on a crash course since the Smith government walked away. Their failure IMO was not getting more of the majority black population involved a little more rapidly.
 
VonBonfire said:
He has the ability to whip Zimbabwe back into shape with sanctions and aid since we are giving them several hundred million per year, most of which was probably grifted by communist elements through the USAID scam.

I wouldn't advocate returning to an apartheid system with minority representation running everything but I do think he could arrange a little more beneficial system for all the parties involved there. That place has been on a crash course since the Smith government walked away. Their failure IMO was not getting more of the majority black population involved a little more rapidly.
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I agree. I read something recently where Zimbabwe was trying to entice white farmers back; most are skeptical, and the current black owners of the lands don't want to give it back even though their farms are failing or falling short which continues to keep the country in or near famine.

For Afrikaners, they need to have safety guarantees, or we need a more extensive refugee plan to get them out of there safely before the genocide increases.

IMO
 
rsm said:
I agree. I read something recently where Zimbabwe was trying to entice white farmers back; most are skeptical, and the current black owners of the lands don't want to give it back even though their farms are failing or falling short which continues to keep the country in or near famine.

For Afrikaners, they need to have safety guarantees, or we need a more extensive refugee plan to get them out of there safely before the genocide increases.

IMO
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I think fixing it is doable just by holding back funds until compliance is achieved. I would be wary about returning but it's still home for the people who had to flee there, white or not. It's really a matter of having a strong leader to dictate what will take place to restore the country to it's former glory. They had the know how and the farms were handed over to plebes whose farming skill was non-existent. I can't believe Zanla and Zapu elements were that dim in their planning but they were radicalized by the soviets who love to use starvation as a control tool.
 
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The Nobel committee has individual and collective TDS. Remember they gave one to the obamanation for doing nothing, and afterwards he increased the number of US troops in Afghanistan (or was it Syria?) and the Nobel committee and members had hissy fits.


No matter what Trump does, they'll never give him a Nobel award. IMO
 
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Remember they gave one to the obamanation for doing nothing,
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Yes I do remember. Society does not have good collective memory though. Prizes and awards of pretty well every variety have mostly become a rigged insider game and are utterly meaningless as a result. The real prize is peace in this deal. Nobel made their award cheap and meaningless when they gave it to Obama for exactly that. Nothing. Just a shell game for political-military-industry-media optics.
 
Am I right in saying that both Congo and Pakistan have already nominated him?
 
VonBonfire said:
Congo has been a victim of european extortion and destabilization for basically a century in order to steal their many valuable resources. The Congo deserves peace and stability for once.
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Why are they wasting time on Africa? As if some official peace deal matters there. Africans are stupid and insane. They'll just go back to hacking each other apart with machetes in 2 weeks. You can't fix Africa.
 
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Why are they wasting time on Africa? As if some official peace deal matters there. Africans are stupid and insane. They'll just go back to hacking each other apart with machetes in 2 weeks. You can't fix Africa.
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Because making peace is a waste of time. I'll tell you why, because Congo is a goldmine of resources that the USA, and other nations want and need. Do you think it's wrong that the actual residents of a place should benefit from the resources located there? The reason there has been so much bloodshed is because outside elements destabilized the region in order to exploit those resources. What Trump was able to do is great news now go back to sleep.
 
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Because making peace is a waste of time. I'll tell you why, because Congo is a goldmine of resources that the USA, and other nations want and need. Do you think it's wrong that the actual residents of a place should benefit from the resources located there? The reason there has been so much bloodshed is because outside elements destabilized the region in order to exploit those resources. What Trump was able to do is great news now go back to sleep.
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Rwandans and Congolese don't hack each other apart over gold, they hack each other apart because they are extremely tribal and the class warfare there is over a group that does nothing and a group that farms bananas and sweet potatoes.
In the case of Africa, I do think they have no right to the resources located there because they just go to waste in their hands and they have absolutely no clue how to use or even extract the more exclusive/important ones. You can't apply western logic to Africa.
 
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Rwandans and Congolese don't hack each other apart over gold, they hack each other apart because they are extremely tribal and the class warfare there is over a group that does nothing and a group that farms bananas and sweet potatoes.
In the case of Africa, I do think they have no right to the resources located there because they just go to waste in their hands and they have absolutely no clue how to use or even extract the more exclusive/important ones. You can't apply western logic to Africa.
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So explain how peace is a net negative there, when all it took was diplomacy? Trump probably told Rwanda the US dollar gold mine would come to an end. Case closed. Will it be a lasting peace, probably not cause you are right to some extent but it's a case of outside agitators running graft by keeping the people in extreme disharmony. They don't make AK's in the Congo.
 
It's Trump and people from the US wasting time when they should be working on the US. A peace treaty means nothing.
 
All this political booooshit the markets are at record highs.

The man knows what hes doing
 
Laputan Machine said:
It's Trump and people from the US wasting time when they should be working on the US. A peace treaty means nothing.
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He probably just withheld tax dollars that Rwanda and Congo normally receive until both sides agreed to cool it. I don't think it took much persuasion beyond that.
 
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