Uneven/flat frets = problems

[EnGl]

Can flat or uneven frets cause a intonation problems ?
I mean :
I set up intonation perfectly ( checked at 12 fret - all on "0") but in some positions ( mainly power chords) it sound like I'm bit out of tune.
Also - sustain is a bit shorter in this chords positions.
I discovered that above certain positions frets are a bit flat ( not too much but you will noticed it without problems)

Frets are the problem ?

I must exclude "technique factor" - as I said - in other positions all was perfect.

 

[chunktone]

This is why frets are crowned after being leveled. Flat frets can lead to intonation issues and can result in a less clear note.

 

[glip22]

Frets are very sensitive. I learned my lesson long ago to only let highly qualified luthier touch them. Your local techs think they can do frets but will ruin your neck. Not many techs really know what they are doing when it comes to frets. Most people will not know the difference but when you play a guitar than Suhr fretted or Phil Jacoby or Gerard Melancon, etc. you will know the difference immediately. It also has allot to do with how much time was spent ensuring your neck was leveled and plained properly. There is also myth around a Plek machine which is only a tool a good luthier should use to analyze a guitars frets and neck. Gibson has Plek machines. What they do is just use high fret wire and rely on the Plek to level them down. There is not a whole lot of consideration for proper neck planing and leveling. This is why allot of Gibsons have humps in the board, small twists or shifts,and other issues. Most buyers do not know the difference. I know a highly experienced luthier who was in the Gibson factory and was appalled at what he saw going on with their Plek machines and operators. And yes he has a Plek and knows what he is talking about by miles. He makes a living fixing Gibson guitars. Even the 5K ones. I think you let someone touch your frets that you should not have based on your previous threads.

 

[EnGl]

Frets are very sensitive. I learned my lesson long ago to only let highly qualified luthier touch them. Your local techs think they can do frets but will ruin your neck. Not many techs really know what they are doing when it comes to frets. Most people will not know the difference but when you play a guitar than Suhr fretted or Phil Jacoby or Gerard Melancon, etc. you will know the difference immediately. It also has allot to do with how much time was spent ensuring your neck was leveled and plained properly. There is also myth around a Plek machine which is only a tool a good luthier should use to analyze a guitars frets and neck. Gibson has Plek machines. What they do is just use high fret wire and rely on the Plek to level them down. There is not a whole lot of consideration for proper neck planing and leveling. This is why allot of Gibsons have humps in the board, small twists or shifts,and other issues. Most buyers do not know the difference. I know a highly experienced luthier who was in the Gibson factory and was appalled at what he saw going on with their Plek machines and operators. And yes he has a Plek and knows what he is talking about by miles. He makes a living fixing Gibson guitars. Even the 5K ones. I think you let someone touch your frets that you should not have based on your previous threads.

Yeah , maybe.
But this is possible that after about 3 months or slightly more , fret can get flat slightly ?
I must say , I played very often recently ( and I use heavy gauge 10-52 strings).

 

[snowdog]

No offense sir, but from this and your previous threads about this neck it appears you and whoever has been working on it doesn't know much about it or whatever the actual problem even is.

Time to find a reputable luthier/repairman to fix this, it shouldn't be much of a problem unless there is something majorly wrong with this guitar.

BTW what guitar are we talking about ?

 

[EnGl]

Dean VMNT.

Oh , this things really makes me angry and throw away all pleasure of playing ...

 

[glip22]

Dean VMNT.

Oh , this things really makes me angry and throw away all pleasure of playing ...

These things happen. It really sounds like you need an experienced tech for a refret. I think the other guy ruined your frets.

 

[EnGl]

Dean VMNT.

Oh , this things really makes me angry and throw away all pleasure of playing ...

These things happen. It really sounds like you need an experienced tech for a refret. I think the other guy ruined your frets.

You know what ?
They look ok , (excluding a few that I mentioned - these flat) for me :
- I checked if any frets is loose - I gently hit every space in fret by little alu hammer - no dull sounds.
- I checked if some can be high with ruler - seems ok.

I really don't have idea what can be problem .
Recently I played Yngwie stuff on full speed , but if I wanted to play some things with "feeling" - OMFG it really makes me angry ...

 

[DADA]

Let the robots do this job!

http://www.ultimateguitargear.com/review_plek.htm

 

[chunktone]

Dean VMNT.

Oh , this things really makes me angry and throw away all pleasure of playing ...

These things happen. It really sounds like you need an experienced tech for a refret. I think the other guy ruined your frets.

I really don't have idea what can be problem .

This is the reason you need to take your guitar to a good luthier for a fret dressing, or refret. I have all my fret work done by Joe Glasier here in Nashville. His shop was the first in the US to have a PLEK machine, and his prices are reasonable. f you'd like his number send me a PM. Suhr guitars would be another to consider, as they offer PLEK as well.

 

[EnGl]

Dean VMNT.

Oh , this things really makes me angry and throw away all pleasure of playing ...

These things happen. It really sounds like you need an experienced tech for a refret. I think the other guy ruined your frets.

I really don't have idea what can be problem .

This is the reason you need to take your guitar to a good luthier for a fret dressing, or refret. I have all my fret work done by Joe Glasier here in Nashville. His shop was the first in the US to have a PLEK machine, and his prices are reasonable. f you'd like his number send me a PM. Suhr guitars would be another to consider, as they offer PLEK as well.

Unfortunately - I'm not from USA. Please don't ask from , it's a shame due to current events.

 

[MountAnDewMe]

Hey I know I'm new here but did you or anyone work on your board or is this something that came up out of the blue after playing?

 

[Fenderoid]

When you say that you checked with a ruler you mean a classic ruler for school and stuff?If that is the case you need to do it again with a perfect straight edge.If the frets are nice and even could be that your neck is a 'warped' and needs truss rod adjustments.Also check the nut

 

[EnGl]

When you say that you checked with a ruler you mean a classic ruler for school and stuff?If that is the case you need to do it again with a perfect straight edge.If the frets are nice and even could be that your neck is a 'warped' and needs truss rod adjustments.Also check the nut

No , neck is straight.
With slightly bow - about 0.3 mm above 7-9 frets when pressed on first and 19 fret (when the neck meet the body)

 

[MountAnDewMe]

Simple answer is yes if you have uneven fret wear you will get intonation issues. Has someone worked on your frets? If they have a good amout of meat on them still you can have them crowned but leave that to a pro or your issue may only worsen.