VH Axe Fx New 50watt Jumpered Plexi

[charveldan]

It's all bound to get better because they just keep studying tube amps and putting out new firmware on the AxeFX to teach the users what they didn't know they were missing.

Ironically all I have to do is plug into my amp....... oh yeah that's what I was missing.

Yep to that. Nothing sounds as good to me as a 100 watt Marshall stack cranked to ten. Especially when you're actually standing in the sweet spot and not right in front of it or to the side.

That being said, I am still trying to figure out how to make 500 people stand right where it sounds good and not directly in front of it or off to the side where it sounds like shit.

Then there's that pesky sound guy who has the balls to tell me to turn down. Doesn't he know my amp doesn't sing until it's cranked.


Edit: before anybody screams at me , I'm just playin'.

Havent heard a Kemper or Axe cop this tone. was pushing alot of air in the room.

Also dont hear alot of harmonic feedback build behind notes or chords with solid state.
Sometimes but not often.

I'll stick to tubes.

 

[zentman]

Havent heard a Kemper or Axe cop this tone. was pushing alot of air in the room.

Also dont hear alot of harmonic feedback build behind notes or chords with solid state.
Sometimes but not often.

I'll stick to tubes.

Not all of us have the luxury of not having to play gigs. Lucky that you can just sit around your house being awesome with your one tone. ( had to yank your chain man)

That being said, try either device really loud through some CLR's. It's different than the direct recordings you hear on the interwebs. The volume of live sound interacts with the strings and guitar helping to create harmonic feedback. I do it all the time even with my lowly DLMs.

There is also this. Some of us guitar guys are required to play in various styles. I can't see doing country on one song then switching to a Gilmour sound the next and further on in the show some jazz with a stack.

Btw, I am not saying these gizmos sound better than that one tone you always post but I am saying, they are just about there and can do so much more that to me, it makes up for that gap some still hear.

Heres just one track of the axe direct with a new band I just joined and then quit. I didn't have the time. They also wanted to travel a bit. Live and loud this tone screams, this is direct. It sounds just like this recording everywhere on stage and in the house. Perfectly controllable. The guitar here is a Strat on bridge pup. That solo is a violin not me.:

https://soundcloud.com/michaelzentner/g ... an-step-up

 

[charveldan]

I can do a variety of tone/gain/clean combos if i want. im not stuck with the only tone in that clip.

But im not going for underwater / spaceship sounds either.

If i had 2K for an Axe id prolly buy another old Marshall and hot-rod it. Thats just me.

Dont get the "some of us dont have the luxury of not playin gigs" comment.

Unless someones holding a gun to ur head you have the choice to do what you want.

Music scene in STL is not profitable. Have no desire to play shows for drunkards yelling "Freebird" and load out @ 2:45 am.

I dont keep those hours, im not 22.

That clip above sounds nice but theres no reason you couldnt play that with my amp

The amp in that clip sounds solid state to me.

 

[zentman]

Dont get the "some of us dont have the luxury of not playin gigs".

Dude, I was just messin' with you. I kinda thought I made that clear as in a joke. I don't play bars. My gigs are much more lowly and have zero cool factor. I play churches.

I am sure you think the OPs clip sounds SS too. Can't disagree as that is your opinion. Other opinions may vary. They may also cause excessive rectal bleeding, ringing of the ears, skin rashes, and nasuea etc. ( disclaimer)

Ya gotta admit, mine sounds pretty fat for a Strat though SS or not.

PS, your amp does sound most awesome.

PSPS: The reason I couldn't play that clip with your amp is because I did my track at home direct and if I mic'd your amp I'd fuck it up. I can't be dragging a big old stack to gigs anymore.I have to have instant access to all kinds of sounds depending on the leader, the hall, the time of day etc. I really couldn't switch between all that stuff with a stack. Especially the underwater spaceship stuff.

 

[controlled_voltage]

i just saw yes and steve howe killed it,basically stealing the show
he was playing thru a stereo line 6 rig
no one in the audience seemed to care that he wasn't using his trademark twins and 2 refrigerator sized racks

Steve Howe is using Line 6 stuff and we are complaining that Axe FX II's aren't good enough for us in our bedrooms, basements and dive bars.

yea
all this tone chasing shit is an excuse not to practice or write new music
period.

 

[supersonic]

Havent heard a Kemper or Axe cop this tone. was pushing alot of air in the room.

Also dont hear alot of harmonic feedback build behind notes or chords with solid state.
Sometimes but not often.

I'll stick to tubes.

I'm not sure if you've spent much time with a Kemper or Axe FX? From personal experience I have owned a Marsha Friedman for three years, I just love that amp BUUUTTTT I also own an Axe II which has become my main rig. It does a multitude of things better that the Friedman. Sure the Friedman has that undeniable fantastic tone but the Axe can run with it. With the right monitoring and presets the Axe II is equally awesome. So before you go slagging amps sims road test them and get back to me!

 

[Rogue]

Nothing wrong with plastic tone. The wheels on my lawn mower were plastic. Well, they were getting ready to fall off, but point is, even though they were plastic, they worked.

Plastic tone is lighter and easier to maintain. Most people won't even know or care it's plastic, they just want to dance. So yeah, it's got its place.

 

[zentman]

Nothing wrong with plastic tone. The wheels on my lawn mower were plastic. Well, they were getting ready to fall off, but point is, even though they were plastic, they worked.

Plastic tone is lighter and easier to maintain. Most people won't even know or care it's plastic, they just want to dance. So yeah, it's got its place.

I prefer rubber tone. Gives the music more bounce.

 

[ejecta]

They were drunk, what do ya expect. I got compliments from drunk guitar players with my Peavey Stereo Chorus 400.LOL

I toured for ten years with Fender, Marshall, Carvin etc. Sounded great where I stood but sometimes I was like a frikkin knife in the front row and mush to the side. Put a Marshall onstage then get a good tone. Now go stand twenty feet in front of the speakers and face them at ear level. Does it change? How about twenty feet to the side?

I actually brought a Twin and a Marshall for a few years so I could get good cleans too. I carried it all myself OMG.

These days it's just too easy to plug in an Axe or Kemper through a couple of CLRs and tickle everybody's ears , everywhere. It really isn't as much of a trade off as some people might have you think. Just bury the F out of it in delay.

Ps, what style did you play back then? Just curious. Any clipsies? BTW, I think your shit is hilarious in case I never let on. Sarcasm at it's finest.

Here's my old touring rig. I brought this so I could get good sound everywhere in the house:

I'm glad you get what I post. I'd like to call it sarcasm but I have a feeling on the forums it comes across more as being a smart ass.

We were a band that did all original music. If I were to describe the music it was was hard rock more in the vein of late 80's and 90's bands. We all contributed to the song writing process so there was a mix of influences... mine being more 80's influenced and my brother on bass and other guitar player being into more 90's prog and hard rock. We got comments like you guess sound like a cross between 311, Helmet, Soundgarden, and Tool. Of course we knew we weren't on those bands' level but we loved playing and writing music that we wanted to hear. I thought our songs were very solid but our singer was the weakest link. Not that he was horrible but he needed some coaching and direction but no one in the band would say much. He is a good friend and we loved his lyrics but we didn't want to discourage him since he did improve over time. Was what it was.

Anyway my rig back then was at one point a Soldano Decatone and then got a Mesa Tremoverb which I gigged the longest. I played that through a 4x12 Rivera cab and played Ibanez guitars.... mainly a Universe... gotta be representing the 80's.

Anyway that was in the late 90's and over the last 15 years my style of playing and choice of amps has changed a good deal. I mainly play lower gain tones and use a PRS NF3, Bogner Brixton head and cab, and an HD500 for effects and some direct late night recording.