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harddriver
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Pasadena Civic Center. Audio only no video.
romanianreaper
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Wow, that is great quality for a show!
Man, I would have flipped out if I'd seen them back then. I was only seven years old at the time. I compare it with the feeling I got when I first saw AC/DC live and was against the barricade, front row. I just stood there starstruck.
Man, I would have flipped out if I'd seen them back then. I was only seven years old at the time. I compare it with the feeling I got when I first saw AC/DC live and was against the barricade, front row. I just stood there starstruck.
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harddriver
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Here's a vid I haven't seen before. Fresno 9/22/78, If you look hard all the Fender bandmaster amp heads pilot lights are on, so he was reamping with them or was he also using them for VH1 tone, dammit Ed just freaking tell us already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
Rick Lee
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I got that bootleg when I was in 7th grade and found it again on CD a few years ago. So it's in my iPhone now. That concert was just on fire - tone and hunger for days. They were ready to take over the world then. If you read Ted Templeman's book, that was the show they played after they had finished recording the first album, but before it was released. WB was holding onto it for a while and the band needed to wave the flag a little before the album release and first tour. What a time that was.
LanierP
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Check this one out. Ed's just off the Chain amazing here. Many of the known songs here have all kinds of different parts, leads and such. Just amazing!!!!
PDC
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I could listen to these early live recordings all day. I was 11 and a devout KISS fan when my older brother brought VH-I home on vinyl. The sound and energy was qualitatively unlike anything that had ever come before it. I just remember staring at the album cover and inner sleeve listening in awe to every single track. I know that early experience is why I’m such a nut over this stuff today.
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paulyc
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Marked for later, can't wait to listen to all this stuff ! I don't doubt the Bandmaster thing at all. He said it was the best sound he ever got.
controlled_voltage
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i have this on vinyl - it was originally known as "die laughing" as well as many demos/soundboards on cassette that are just incendiary.
Some of the earlier shows I have feature ed minus whammy bar and and I reckon that's the shark destroyer or an LP
People talk a lot of shit about DLR but he has yet to be topped and he set afire the entire glam rock/ LA metal blueprint for every other vocalist wannabe in his wake.
Not to mention he has and still gets more prime pussy than basically anyone ever.
PIMP for LIFE
Some of the earlier shows I have feature ed minus whammy bar and and I reckon that's the shark destroyer or an LP
People talk a lot of shit about DLR but he has yet to be topped and he set afire the entire glam rock/ LA metal blueprint for every other vocalist wannabe in his wake.
Not to mention he has and still gets more prime pussy than basically anyone ever.
PIMP for LIFE
JerEvil
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Man this is fantastic!harddriver":1wnk60vv said:Here's a vid I haven't seen before. Fresno 9/22/78, If you look hard all the Fender bandmaster amp heads pilot lights are on, so he was reamping with them or was he also using them for VH1 tone, dammit Ed just freaking tell us already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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paulyc
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That’s the best live tone I’ve ever heard from him. Perfect.harddriver":12hd0wb4 said:Here's a vid I haven't seen before. Fresno 9/22/78, If you look hard all the Fender bandmaster amp heads pilot lights are on, so he was reamping with them or was he also using them for VH1 tone, dammit Ed just freaking tell us already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jeff Hilligan
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paulyc":slwvu7ri said:That’s the best live tone I’ve ever heard from him. Perfect.harddriver":slwvu7ri said:Here's a vid I haven't seen before. Fresno 9/22/78, If you look hard all the Fender bandmaster amp heads pilot lights are on, so he was reamping with them or was he also using them for VH1 tone, dammit Ed just freaking tell us already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's the fender....to me all the great tones from him are fender. Heck even Cantrell used a baseman for his killer facelift tone
Philo Beddoe
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Have to back 40 years to "get to the good stuff". Is VH done?
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harddriver
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Jeff Hilligan":3lgr17nw said:paulyc":3lgr17nw said:That’s the best live tone I’ve ever heard from him. Perfect.harddriver":3lgr17nw said:Here's a vid I haven't seen before. Fresno 9/22/78, If you look hard all the Fender bandmaster amp heads pilot lights are on, so he was reamping with them or was he also using them for VH1 tone, dammit Ed just freaking tell us already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's the fender....to me all the great tones from him are fender. Heck even Cantrell used a baseman for his killer facelift tone
This is the first film/video I've ever seen from the 78 VH tour ever, they were really tight and man that is some great guitar tone.....
The audio was pretty good too. I would venture to says it's Ed's it one of ed's plexi reamped with the Fenders, but ya never know. I've seen other amps in pics like other Marshall's and Musicmans, Vox but that's the first time I've seen him on stage with two Fender Bandmaster's and damn if his tone isn't spot on VH1 and there is no refuting it there they are........ two no wait think I see three Fender bandmasters two regular stacked on the right and one reverb head in the middle and VH1 tone LIVE nontheless. 
I don't see the variacs on top of the amps but I am sure they are there. He never really got that exact tone ever after the 78 tour, he stated he didn't like it and thought it was too icepicky and harsh to that effect.We all know the EVH external speaker out Fender Bandmaster story from Ed's interviews.
Conventional wisdom always said variaced down 80-90 volts Marshall 12301 into a load box then reamped with other heads during the 78 tour, in the Japan leg he used other newer Marshalls which sound great but there is that elusive VH1 tone with two Bandmasters on the stage. Oppps I think I repeated my self, oh well.
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paulyc
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I think there are 4 stacks of cabs on stage there, I’d bet it’s both the Marshalls and the Fenders run together. I think the Fenders give the sizzle and the Marshalls give the body. The story about his personal Bandmaster he used at home was a blackface amp with white (blonde ?) Tolex, so that would be an earlier amp, no ?
Anyone else ever see/read that comment Ted Templeman made years ago about Eddie chasing the “Montrose” guitar sound and the hunt for a Bandmaster like Ronnie used ? Man that would tie a lot of unknowns together...
This is a great thread, thanks OP and all who are contributing.
Anyone else ever see/read that comment Ted Templeman made years ago about Eddie chasing the “Montrose” guitar sound and the hunt for a Bandmaster like Ronnie used ? Man that would tie a lot of unknowns together...
This is a great thread, thanks OP and all who are contributing.
panhead
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Bradshaw told me in a phone conversation in the late 80`s that most of Fair Warning was a tweed fender, I said this on here in the early 2000`s and you imagine the shit storm. That's what he said and if someone knew it would probably be him.
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paulyc
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I believe the Montrose amp was a tweed amp as well...
UltraGary
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Holy Hell this stuff sounds great! SO great hearing them in their hungry launch. It's all like living VH1 "live in front of your steaming ears". Thanks for sharing this stuff guys!