VHT Pittbull experts c'mon in!

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I have an offer for a VHT Pitbull Ultralead. The seller says it's the "original model"(?)
What are the differences in the Pitbull line, and are the older ones better?
How much do they usually sell for used?
Is there something specific I should look for with a Pitbull between the versions?
 
The early (first version) Pittbulls have a different preamp voicing. If I remember correctly, sans graphic EQ. Later versions had the option to have the graphic or not, then to the current versions that come stock with the graphic. One is not better than the other...matter of personal taste.

If you want a very detailed explanation and the exact year of said Pittbull, grab the serial number and contact Stevie directly http://www.sfdamp.com/contact.html

Cheers,
Mike
 
Thanks a lot Mike.
Looks like it's a G-100 without the graphic eq.
In place of the eq appears to be presence and depth controls. I think that suits me better anyways.
 
The presence and depth are on the back of the ones with geq, get it if you like it but don't pay the same you'd pay for one with it. They go for alot less without eq. Just a heads up.
 
Not expert but here is this.... :)

http://www.fryette-users.com/forums/sho ... the-vht-ul

" CLX has a single 12AX7 driver stage, a different power transformer, a different output transformer and Dual Class Mode. It breaks up easier and has a bit more give - besides the EL34 voice.

UL does not have DualClass switch. Never did. Neither model has ever had Enhance Mode - the switchable tube/ss rectifier function.

The differences between the 2 models has varied over time, but has been stable over the last roughly 10 years.

Difference between the D60 and D120 is the driver stage. The 120 has a 2-tube driver/PI stage similar to the UL. The 60 has the single stage like the CLX. Preamp voicing is the same, but because of the difference in output and driver stage, the 60 sounds more pissed off compared to the 120 which sounds more like a bulldozer coming down your street."
 
Alright, thanks a bunch.
What about speakers?
I heard VHT's don't like V30's(?) and that's what I mainly use and own.
I do have a Krank 4x12 with Eminence V12's. Maybe that will work better?
The amp is loaded with 6L6's, takes KT88's too. How are 6L6's in the UL?
 
Id check out Fryette user forums. Might find more info or even some audio clips, the support fryette has is really good..

Ive never played an UL, i have the pitbull 100. But one thing i can tell you is that it loves V30 x 75 like the uberkab, and that also i never use the eq. The tones already amazing :) (i use a boost of course )

You can however dedicate the eq to the clean channel, which can get pretty gainy if for a cool lead tone but i id take presence and depth in the front vs back any day.

Ive seen the UL going for $1,500 used often so dont over pay. I think youll be happy if you like heavy. I fell in love with my VHT i dont think id ever sell. But am def. Curious about all of their amps now :)
 
Thanks, but is a boost necessary? I'm not against using one, but I'm trying to get away from it.
Honestly, even though it's a three channel amp, I'm realistically only looking to use one, maybe two tones out of the amp. Not in need of versatility right now.
I really don't think I'll miss the graphic eq. It's just more tweaking then I want to have to do.
Already lots of tonal shaping options in the amp from what I can tell.

Oh, and this is a trade deal I'm working on. I would basically be paying $1000 for the UL in the end if things pan out.
 
D-Rock":2lggi9ps said:
Thanks, but is a boost necessary? I'm not against using one, but I'm trying to get away from it.
Honestly, even though it's a three channel amp, I'm realistically only looking to use one, maybe two tones out of the amp. Not in need of versatility right now.
I really don't think I'll miss the graphic eq. It's just more tweaking then I want to have to do.
Already lots of tonal shaping options in the amp from what I can tell.

Oh, and this is a trade deal I'm working on. I would basically be paying $1000 for the UL in the end if things pan out.
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Then hell yes for $1,000...:) thats a steal regardless.

As far as a boost. Again my experience is with the pitbull, you dont really NEED one. There is plenty of gain. I have mine around 2:00 and its brutal. But the maxon boost just makes it a little tighter and gives more clarity. Just depends on what you like.
 
If you end up not happy with it you could sell it, find a good deal on a D60, have that killer 1 channel tone and make a few $$$ in the process.
 
Fryette put Vintage 30's in there cabs for a long time. I have a Sig X & Deliverance 120 ~ the speakers I use most is H30/greenbacks/V30. Fryette amps sound great with these speaker....Just a matter of taste if some do or do not like them together. Most people do not feel a boost is needed with these amps .... They are very tight & have a lot of gain. If you do not need channel switching or a loop I highly recommend checking a Deliverance. They can be found used very cheap & based on the green channel of the Pittbull's....
 
Well I'll see what happens. I replied to the guy and it's been almost 2 since. He might have flaked on the deal. Hope not....
 
Ok, so the deal is back on. Hopefully this friday will be the day.

Anyways, what tube type did the original G-100 come with? I'm thinking KT88. It has 6L6's now but I read Steve F. say that his amps perform best with the power tubes they are shipped with.

Also, this model does not have the gain stacking. What does that offer? More gain and versatility? Will I miss not having it? I'm sure it's got a shit tonne of gain already...
 
It will have lots of gain but the 100cl and the ul are different beasts from what i hear. Some have even gone back to the cl. I am unsure about the ul but the cl does not use kt88. I have e34l. Got it used so cant say what stock was.
 
Hello all,

I have the 2nd of 3 Pittbull G-100-CL prototype/sample heads for sale. 100 watts, 3 channel with footswitch. Mint condition (looks new) with brand new tubes, only 15 hours on the new tubes maybe.

I've been doing a lot of researching trying to figure what these things go for. A CL just sold on ebay for 1,275. Where an UL just sold for 2,000. Since the Classic was prior to the CL and CLX, especially since its the 2nd ever made, I'm thinking this is worth a bit more.

Any suggestions or interests?
 
ScoopRoberts":3lzglpjm said:
Hello all,

I have the 2nd of 3 Pittbull G-100-CL prototype/sample heads for sale. 100 watts, 3 channel with footswitch. Mint condition (looks new) with brand new tubes, only 15 hours on the new tubes maybe.

I've been doing a lot of researching trying to figure what these things go for. A CL just sold on ebay for 1,275. Where an UL just sold for 2,000. Since the Classic was prior to the CL and CLX, especially since its the 2nd ever made, I'm thinking this is worth a bit more.

Any suggestions or interests?
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I just recently picked up a CLX and UL, both VHT era amps. I paid 1500 for the CLX and 1600 for the UL. Both are in fantastic condition. The ONLY reason I paid more for the UL is that it recently went back to Fryette for a factory checkup and got new tubes installed. Those are realistic, fair prices for those heads. I am not sure if the amps you mentioned would be worth a bunch more, per se, but they definitely are a nice piece of history. :thumbsup:
 
garey77":3bwy1g6l said:
ScoopRoberts":3bwy1g6l said:
Hello all,

I have the 2nd of 3 Pittbull G-100-CL prototype/sample heads for sale. 100 watts, 3 channel with footswitch. Mint condition (looks new) with brand new tubes, only 15 hours on the new tubes maybe.

I've been doing a lot of researching trying to figure what these things go for. A CL just sold on ebay for 1,275. Where an UL just sold for 2,000. Since the Classic was prior to the CL and CLX, especially since its the 2nd ever made, I'm thinking this is worth a bit more.

Any suggestions or interests?
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I just recently picked up a CLX and UL, both VHT era amps. I paid 1500 for the CLX and 1600 for the UL. Both are in fantastic condition. The ONLY reason I paid more for the UL is that it recently went back to Fryette for a factory checkup and got new tubes installed. Those are realistic, fair prices for those heads. I am not sure if the amps you mentioned would be worth a bunch more, per se, but they definitely are a nice piece of history. :thumbsup:
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1600 is spot on for ultra leads right now, imo. i have bought 3 of them recently for 1550,1600,and 1650.

the CL prototype may have more value, but that value will only be to a collector. there is a guy on the vht/fryette forum with a huge collection of pittbulls who may be interested. but i can tell you if you had the prototype or first UL, i still would only pay 1600 for it, IF i was willing to take a chance on an "old" head...and i am a fanboy.
 
Pittbull is a generic VHT name. Go to Freyette's website ans compare the specs from the CL, CLX and UL...all are Pittbulls and all are different ;)

http://sfdamp.com/

they're great amps (and cabs withe FB's) I have a 50 Cl w/ EQ+rRevberb anong with a slant VHT 4x12 with p50e's
 
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