W/D/W and mixer

[acev]

Hi,

I have a question regarding WDW.

Im using a line out, that goes to BOSS MD500 and then to BOSS DD500. DD500 has analog through and you can run dual delays in parallel, each with control for effect and direct sound. You can also mute the direct sound aka 100%wet . Would I benefit adding something like RJM Mini Line mixer ?

Also, how would you connect it ? I can run a Y cable from line out, one end to Dry input on RJM and other to the DD500 Delay (and connect the delay to RJM). How do I include MD500 and get the signal to it ?

thanks,

 

[journeyman73]

the idea with using a mixer is to create a parallel path - you send your dry signal from your amp into the mixer and feed that signal from the mixer to individual fx units that are running 100% wet back into the mixer...the dry and fx signals are blended in the mixer and fed via the mixer outs.

the mixer can be more complex (i.e. individual channels with gain levels, eq, etc for each channel, aux sends, etc) or very simple like a Mini Mix. The Mini takes your dry signal and sends it via the FX Send mono, stereo, dual mono to your fx. your fx, running 100% wet, come back into the FX Return. You control the levels of the fx in the individual fx units (not the mix, that needs to stay 100% wet), since there are no level controls on the Mini.

you can then run the mixed signal mono, stereo, W/D, W/D/W depending on you or whether you separately amp the dry signal to its own cab vs fx signal reamped into their own cab or not.

 

[Shask]

Just kind of a related conversation I have been thinking about as I have been messing with mixers and such. I kind of wonder how important the mixer idea is in 2020 where effects units have much better AD/DA converters than back 30 years ago. Obviously, it depends on the specific piece of gear, but I just wonder if all the analog mixers are as needed with the newer tech.

I have been comparing with some units like the G Major 2, and Axe-FX II, where you can do internal parallel routing, and have found that I am not noticing that much tone suck.

 

[acev]

the idea with using a mixer is to create a parallel path - you send your dry signal from your amp into the mixer and feed that signal from the mixer to individual fx units that are running 100% wet back into the mixer...the dry and fx signals are blended in the mixer and fed via the mixer outs.

the mixer can be more complex (i.e. individual channels with gain levels, eq, etc for each channel, aux sends, etc) or very simple like a Mini Mix. The Mini takes your dry signal and sends it via the FX Send mono, stereo, dual mono to your fx. your fx, running 100% wet, come back into the FX Return. You control the levels of the fx in the individual fx units (not the mix, that needs to stay 100% wet), since there are no level controls on the Mini.

you can then run the mixed signal mono, stereo, W/D, W/D/W depending on you or whether you separately amp the dry signal to its own cab vs fx signal reamped into their own cab or not.

Great, thanks ! So I would only need to send the line out (dry) to dry input on mixer and mixer sends it to fx processors.

Now I am using it with BOSS DD500, which has analog dry and parallel path (or serial), so Im not sure how much difference mixer would make.

 

[journeyman73]

Just kind of a related conversation I have been thinking about as I have been messing with mixers and such. I kind of wonder how important the mixer idea is in 2020 where effects units have much better AD/DA converters than back 30 years ago. Obviously, it depends on the specific piece of gear, but I just wonder if all the analog mixers are as needed with the newer tech.

I have been comparing with some units like the G Major 2, and Axe-FX II, where you can do internal parallel routing, and have found that I am not noticing that much tone suck.

yeah, if one is going with a multi-fx unit they could debate how much feel and tone impact they experience using the unit vs the mixer. still some mixer benefits if using individual units, of course.