Wanna get a great recto

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stratotone":vhy19pc5 said:
some dude":vhy19pc5 said:
Mattfig":vhy19pc5 said:
I should mention that I cannot live without my decimator Prorack in the loop - so it's gotta have a good usable loop...:)

The loop in the older Rectos were junk.

Series loop in my Rev F rackmount works great. It was the parallel loops that were the problem, even at 100% you got this weird phase noise. There was a mod for those which I tried, seems to just work better on the old ones. *shrugs*

The series loop in my Rev F sucks. Guts the bottom end, flattens the response and shifts the whole midrange up in frequency. It's one of the reasons my 2 channel gets to play backup to my Roadster.
 
2 channel Triple was my best Recto, I miss it...

It sounded better at lower volumes as well, at least to me. Glad I didn't pay attention to the "Triple's are too powerful for home use" crowd when I bought it. :lol: :LOL:
 
I always liked the "Ractos" Ive heard. Then again its probably mostly the player.
 
Have a early blackface dual rev G. the G's have been the best ive tried. The loop was changed for the better imo on the G's from the Rev F's.
 
I'll admit that I haven't played through a triple in probably ten years... my rev F dual isn't going anywhere, though. It's the last amp I'll ever part with.
 
Get one that doesn't need a boost. Don't put BBQ sauce on a fine cut of beef.

Drop a 12AT7 in the gain spot so the gain gets clearer and tighter and use a tight, hot pickup.
 
Mattfig":5gw9nknz said:
I know there's a million versions...
If you had $1,100 and wanted a great Mesa head (Recto) what would you buy and why?

I have no issues with used gear and have plenty of 412s already...

Thanks!

I should mention that I cannot live without my decimator Prorack in the loop - so it's gotta have a good usable loop...:)

If you want that Recto sound, with even more cut than the Rectifiers, I highly suggest you take a look at the Royal Atlantic amp.

Don't believe me? While I don't have clips of my own to provide you with, I do have this accurate clip provided by Mesa:





In my opinion, Rectos are GREAT amps, but they don't provide enough cut for my tastes. The Royal doesn't have nearly as much cut as the Stilettos had, or a Marshall, but they provide users with more cut than the average Rectifier. Rectifiers cut through the mix fine (turn down the bass, gain, and up the presence), but the way they cut it much different than the Royal.

The Royal's cleans are also world's better than what's found on most Rectifiers. The Roadster has nice cleans, I just think the Royal's cleans have more chime and top end on tap. The Royal also has the better loop, probably better than most loops in Mesa's fleet. It's Mesa's first loop that is automatically disengaged when nothing is plugged in.
 
i was really interested in the royal, then saw those two vids....tried one, and heard the same thing.

this high end presence KIIIIIHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH going on in every high gain note, no upper definition in the notes...which bugs my ears
 
yeti":29sb7kv9 said:
i was really interested in the royal, then saw those two vids....tried one, and heard the same thing.

this high end presence KIIIIIHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH going on in every high gain note, no upper definition in the notes...which bugs my ears

It can get more defined than that. The gain in those videos is cranked! Just look at the settings.

Since the presence is not controllable, you have to be careful with the treble and gain. Those are the limitations of the amp for sure.
 
Has anyone noticed that the triple recto is better for downtuned or seven plus string guitars? As in there is much more bass response?
 
I've had a ridiculous amounts of rectos. singles, duals, triples. My fav is the original single rect. The one with the footswitch on the front next to the guitar input. I've had 2 and both just kill any of the dual and triples I've had.
 
primerib":1qh7u70f said:
I've had a ridiculous amounts of rectos. singles, duals, triples. My fav is the original single rect. The one with the footswitch on the front next to the guitar input. I've had 2 and both just kill any of the dual and triples I've had.
Ha! My fav is the series II Single Recto. Never tried a series I.
I love the bright, tight crunch and warm, thick feeling tone they have. Great for both metal and rock. :rock:
 
I prefer the voicing of the Tremoverb over the rest ....
 
EXPcustom":1isy7vnj said:
Has anyone noticed that the triple recto is better for downtuned or seven plus string guitars? As in there is much more bass response?
I think so. I don't think it has more bass though, it is just that the bass is deeper, thicker, and more defined. The Triple is clearer and deeper than the dual in general.....
 
I bought a new Trem o Verb in around 96. It was an orange leather combo and the thing slayed. To thiss day as far as Mesa's go, it was the best one I ever came across. It had a tighter more defined tone, slightly compressed, and the distortion was brutal if you wanted it to be, and it had an awesome clean tone as well. Look for a 95/96 Trem o Verb and try to play one if you can and check one out. If it is anything like the one I had you will not be sorry;.
 
some dude":1wuhx8i5 said:
stratotone":1wuhx8i5 said:
some dude":1wuhx8i5 said:
Mattfig":1wuhx8i5 said:
I should mention that I cannot live without my decimator Prorack in the loop - so it's gotta have a good usable loop...:)

The loop in the older Rectos were junk.

Series loop in my Rev F rackmount works great. It was the parallel loops that were the problem, even at 100% you got this weird phase noise. There was a mod for those which I tried, seems to just work better on the old ones. *shrugs*

The series loop in my Rev F sucks. Guts the bottom end, flattens the response and shifts the whole midrange up in frequency. It's one of the reasons my 2 channel gets to play backup to my Roadster.

Worked fine for me, what fx are you running through it - line level, and if so, what? My Roadster had a good fx loop, but the gain channels didn't sound that great to begin with. I guess if I was going to run a ton of fx I might have been able to compensate, but for me, the Roadster was a loser. Was your F a rackmount or a head? Might be the difference also.
 
stratotone":2ti97qjr said:
Worked fine for me, what fx are you running through it - line level, and if so, what? My Roadster had a good fx loop, but the gain channels didn't sound that great to begin with. I guess if I was going to run a ton of fx I might have been able to compensate, but for me, the Roadster was a loser. Was your F a rackmount or a head? Might be the difference also.

I've experimented with line level, instrument level and nothing (wanted to use the master volume). It's just not a very good loop. The second you engage it it guts the tone, regardless of whether anything is plugged in or not.

The gain channels on the Roadster sound really dull and bland with the stock JJ preamp tubes in it. I was seriously disappointed when I first heard it. I stuck a TungSol in the V1 and it brightened/tightened the response up considerably. Add in the extra bottom end depth that the Rev F lacks and it's a monster.

My Rev F is still a cool amp... just not as good as the Roadster IMO.
 
EXPcustom":473eflrb said:
Has anyone noticed that the triple recto is better for downtuned or seven plus string guitars? As in there is much more bass response?

I didnt notice 'more' bass response, but did notice a much more present and tight bass response.
 
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