What is the ultimate Greenback cab design?

[JakeAC5253]

I consider the Mesa Recto cab to be the ultimate V30 cab design, in that it compliments the speakers perfectly. Adds a little low end to compensate the speaker's natural low end tightening and smooths a bit of the high end which would otherwise be bright. What is the cab design that perfectly compliments the Greenback sound? I am thinking either Bogner oversized cab, or Marshall 1960 the classic. I think I am leaning toward the Bogner because its oversized and I like a good thump in my sound with a smooth top end. Lots of big furry balls. I've never used (to my knowledge) Greenbacks in person and all I have to go by is clips.

 

[Meathead]

Check out a Marshall 1960TV cab...it pushes air, sounds massive with that extra 4 inches of height and the heavy basketweave grill covering tames the sizzle nicely.

 

[JakeAC5253]

Check out a Marshall 1960TV cab...it pushes air, sounds massive with that extra 4 inches of height and the heavy basketweave grill covering tames the sizzle nicely.

Nice!

 

[Meathead]

Check out a Marshall 1960TV cab...it pushes air, sounds massive with that extra 4 inches of height and the heavy basketweave grill covering tames the sizzle nicely.

Nice!

The basketweave grill with the vintage Marshall logo makes it look like it's going to sound good before you even play though it.

 

[JakeAC5253]

Check out a Marshall 1960TV cab...it pushes air, sounds massive with that extra 4 inches of height and the heavy basketweave grill covering tames the sizzle nicely.

Nice!

The basketweave grill with the vintage Marshall logo makes it look like it's going to sound good before you even play though it.

I agree!

 

[ericsabbath]

the framus cobra was the best sounding cab I've tried for modern amps

 

[Scumback Speakers]

Check out a Marshall 1960TV cab...it pushes air, sounds massive with that extra 4 inches of height and the heavy basketweave grill covering tames the sizzle nicely.

Basketweave, as in Salt & Pepper? Never seen that on a TV (tall vintage) cab. Mine has BluesBreaker Reissue cloth on it.

You have a pic of this cab with basketweave?

 

[Meathead]

Check out a Marshall 1960TV cab...it pushes air, sounds massive with that extra 4 inches of height and the heavy basketweave grill covering tames the sizzle nicely.

Basketweave, as in Salt & Pepper? Never seen that on a TV (tall vintage) cab. Mine has BluesBreaker Reissue cloth on it.

You have a pic of this cab with basketweave?

Well it looks sort of like basketweave...Capt Fact!

 

[D-Rock]

I don't know that there is an ultimate.
Greenbacks sounds stellar in all cabs!

I haven't played an oversized GB loaded cab, but I'm not sure how well that would perform. Since the lowend from the GB's isn't the tightest, then it might get a little out of hand in an oversized cab(?) Speculating here, I have heard people praise OS GB cabs though.

I love my 425A cab, as the lows are pretty tight. Might be because it's angled cab, with less internal volume to mush the bass up(?) Dunno. It does sound great paired with my V30/T75 X pattered 1960A. Got all the bases covered there.

 

[JakeAC5253]

I don't know that there is an ultimate.
Greenbacks sounds stellar in all cabs!

I haven't played an oversized GB loaded cab, but I'm not sure how well that would perform. Since the lowend from the GB's isn't the tightest, then it might get a little out of hand in an oversized cab(?) Speculating here, I have heard people praise OS GB cabs though.

I love my 425A cab, as the lows are pretty tight. Might be because it's angled cab, with less internal volume to mush the bass up(?) Dunno. It does sound great paired with my V30/T75 X pattered 1960A. Got all the bases covered there.

I've loved your GB clips, sound killer bro.

I'm thinking that I may actually prefer the low end a little washy. I don't really find myself drooling over that low-chopped uber tight 80's glam metal sound, so something more sludgy and low-end heavy may be more my thing. Thoughts? BTB, the amp I am most likely thinking of using with the cab is a Bogner modified JCM. If anyone has any input on that idea, I'd love to hear about it.

 

[Scumback Speakers]

Check out a Marshall 1960TV cab...it pushes air, sounds massive with that extra 4 inches of height and the heavy basketweave grill covering tames the sizzle nicely.

Basketweave, as in Salt & Pepper? Never seen that on a TV (tall vintage) cab. Mine has BluesBreaker Reissue cloth on it.

You have a pic of this cab with basketweave?

Well it looks sort of like basketweave...Capt Fact!

It's the bluesbreaker reissue cloth, here's a pic from MF.

This is basketweave, aka S&P (salt & pepper) as shown on a Marshall handwired cab.

Full size image here: http://cachepe.zzounds.com/media/qualit ... 11802c.jpg

 

[MotorCityPickUps]

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[D-Rock]

I don't know that there is an ultimate.
Greenbacks sounds stellar in all cabs!

I haven't played an oversized GB loaded cab, but I'm not sure how well that would perform. Since the lowend from the GB's isn't the tightest, then it might get a little out of hand in an oversized cab(?) Speculating here, I have heard people praise OS GB cabs though.

I love my 425A cab, as the lows are pretty tight. Might be because it's angled cab, with less internal volume to mush the bass up(?) Dunno. It does sound great paired with my V30/T75 X pattered 1960A. Got all the bases covered there.

I've loved your GB clips, sound killer bro.

I'm thinking that I may actually prefer the low end a little washy. I don't really find myself drooling over that low-chopped uber tight 80's glam metal sound, so something more sludgy and low-end heavy may be more my thing. Thoughts? BTB, the amp I am most likely thinking of using with the cab is a Bogner modified JCM. If anyone has any input on that idea, I'd love to hear about it.

Yeah, GB's are great for that furry, growling high gain tone. I wouldn't call the lowend loose, just not as uber tight as other speakers like you mentioned. They would work great for the sound you described. My fav thing about GB's is their midrange. To me, it's perfect sounding, and it's the perfect amount from a speaker. Funny you mentioned getting a Marshall, I'm looking at a DSL50 right now....

 

[FourT6and2]

How is the Bogner cab oversized? It's 30x30x14, pretty much the same as a vintage Marshall. Or are you all talking about their 2x12? In any event, I'm really happy with my Bogner 4x12 and GB's. Sounds great.

 

[Meathead]

Check out a Marshall 1960TV cab...it pushes air, sounds massive with that extra 4 inches of height and the heavy basketweave grill covering tames the sizzle nicely.

Basketweave, as in Salt & Pepper? Never seen that on a TV (tall vintage) cab. Mine has BluesBreaker Reissue cloth on it.

You have a pic of this cab with basketweave?

Well it looks sort of like basketweave...Capt Fact!

It's the bluesbreaker reissue cloth, here's a pic from MF.

This is basketweave, aka S&P (salt & pepper) as shown on a Marshall handwired cab.

Full size image here: http://cachepe.zzounds.com/media/qualit ... 11802c.jpg

Sorry, I get the difference. I didn't know that only salt and pepper was referred to as basketweave...I also call early 70's Marshall's a plexi...just bad habit.

 

[JakeAC5253]

How is the Bogner cab oversized? It's 30x30x14, pretty much the same as a vintage Marshall. Or are you all talking about their 2x12? In any event, I'm really happy with my Bogner 4x12 and GB's. Sounds great.

Hmm, I'm not sure really. I thought I overheard people referring to the Bogner oversized cabs. Internal dimensions are more important than external dimensions for a cab to be considered 'oversized' or not.

 

[locoed]

I've been saying these cabs are the best,hands down,since i bought last spring,it's the same size as my recto cabs.
Sorry for the crappy iphone pic.

 

[FourT6and2]

How is the Bogner cab oversized? It's 30x30x14, pretty much the same as a vintage Marshall. Or are you all talking about their 2x12? In any event, I'm really happy with my Bogner 4x12 and GB's. Sounds great.

Hmm, I'm not sure really. I thought I overheard people referring to the Bogner oversized cabs. Internal dimensions are more important than external dimensions for a cab to be considered 'oversized' or not.

For the internal dimensions to be larger, yet still have the same external dimensions, the wood would have to be thinner. And even then, you're only going to get an inch (max) from each side. So you wind up going from an internal volume of 12,600 square inches to maybe 15,376 square inches. But then your cab has less mass and less rigidity. What's the overall sonic difference? I don't know.

But oversized cabs are generally larger (on the outside) than their "traditionally" sized counterparts. I've never seen an oversized cab with the same external dimensions as a normal one, yet have a larger internal volume... Magic?

My original question was about Bogner's 4x12, though. I've never seen an "oversized" Bogner 4x12. I don't know if everyone's talking about that or Bogner's Oversized 2x12, which does exist.

 

[JakeAC5253]

For the internal dimensions to be larger, yet still have the same external dimensions, the wood would have to be thinner. And even then, you're only going to get an inch (max) from each side. So you wind up going from an internal volume of 12,600 square inches to maybe 15,376 square inches. But then your cab has less mass and less rigidity. What's the overall sonic difference? I don't know.

But oversized cabs are generally larger (on the outside) than their "traditionally" sized counterparts. I've never seen an oversized cab with the same external dimensions as a normal one, yet have a larger internal volume... Magic?

Exactly my point! That is exactly the difference between the typical Marshall 1960 cab and a Boogie Recto 'oversized' cab. If you compare the dimensions, the Recto is only larger by give or take a 1/4" on all dimensions, but the construction wood is indeed thinner and far more dense. This gives it lots more internal space (different sound) without actually being that much bigger on the outside (inconvenience).

 

[D-Rock]

The OS GB cab I was referring to was the Marshall TV.