Who mixes 75Hz and 55Hz speakers/cones?

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I'm thinking about taking advantage of Weber's buy one, get one half-off sale, and I'm considering mixing two Legacy speakers-one with 75Hz cone and one 55Hz for more low end. Has anyone done this with the Legacies or Scumbacks? Am I better off getting two of the same or maybe same cones, but one with a large dust cap?
 
I haven't tried it with Webers or Scumbacks, but I've done it with Celestion H30 Heritage 55hz and Celestion H30 70th Anniversary 75hz. I thought it sounded great. Very fat with a big low-end. The upper-mids and highs blended nicely.
 
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I have a pair of M75s in a 2x12 and a new M55 in the box that I plan to try out in place of one of them...if I ever get around to actually doing it I'll let you know the results.
 
PeteLaramee":2oll76nx said:
I haven't tried it with Webers or Scumbacks, but I've done it with Celestion H30 Heritage 55hz and Celestion H30 70th Anniversary 75hz. I thought it sounded great. Very fat with a big low-end. The upper-mids and highs blended nicely.
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Cool. I think I'm going to give it a go!
 
I'm mixing the Weber and/or Scumbacks in 55 and 75, but i'm mixing by full cabs.

Usually i put the bassier speakers in the bottom cab, but i put a cab that has 2 Legacy 55's and 2 Scumback 55's on top of a 75 cab and liked it so much i never worried about putting them on the bottom.

So yea, the 55 cones are great. I kind of like to match magnet size, so same size magnet on the 55's as on the 75's if possible.
 
Capulin Overdrive":3ddqpojv said:
I'm mixing the Weber and/or Scumbacks in 55 and 75, but i'm mixing by full cabs.

Usually i put the bassier speakers in the bottom cab, but i put a cab that has 2 Legacy 55's and 2 Scumback 55's on top of a 75 cab and liked it so much i never worried about putting them on the bottom.

So yea, the 55 cones are great. I kind of like to match magnet size, so same size magnet on the 55's as on the 75's if possible.
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Nice! So, I've heard that smaller magnets are recommended for closed back cabs and larger ones for open-back? I don't know much about how magnet size affects feel or tone, so I was going to just shoot for the middle and get two speakers with 40 oz magnets. Sound like a good idea?
 
I didn't like the bigger magnet of the old Scumback H75 compared to a M75, but liked the the H55.

Bigger magnets can cause some high end harshness. 40 might be allright? For sure wouldn't be scared of the 40 with the 55cone.
 
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magnet size affects tone....? ok...i'll indulge...explain

also, explain to me the Hz aspect/ratio and how it affects tone etc. i always see it referred to, but dont have a working knowledge of it.

anyone? in laymans terms so i dont have to google for 3 hours!
 
Kind of off topic......but I have both the 30oz and 40oz Legacies (both 65 watt/75hz). They are quite a bit different and I prefer the 30oz by a good margin. They are beefier/thicker in the mids and smoother on the high treble. I have a 30oz/40oz paired in a Splawn 2x12 and also a pair of 30oz in an X pattern with old G12T-75's. That 4x12 mix may sound strange, but I swear it is the best sounding cab I have ever heard. Everyone wants to play through it...lol.

I also had a 4x12 full of the 30 watt/30oz Legacies and they sound nothing like the 65 watt/30oz. The 65 watters are the superior speaker IMO. Matter of fact, if I could only choose one speaker it would be the 65 watt/30oz/75hz/British dustcap. As a reference, I used the old Scumback H75 and J75 and wasn't impressed at all.......never tried the M75 though.
 
The voicing of your amp plays a huge part in this discussion.
 
Thanks for all the feedback! Glip-I agree about amp voicings. I'm not sure how the Mark IV will behave with Legacies but I've heard great Mark tones with GB type speakers, so I have high hopes! Basically looking for something that will sound much different than my V30s and for the sale price, the Legacies seem like the way to go.

Eyes-I might just go with 30 oz mags after reading your post. I definitely don't want any high-end harshness. Thanks guys!
 
Im running m55/m75 xpatt 100W'ers. Their stuffed in a traditional sized 412 slant. The cab is pretty full sounding.

PeteLaramee":1j2wbpee said:
The upper-mids and highs blended nicely.
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I find this to be the case with my speaker combo also. My cab is matched up with a twinJet w/kt88's. I have no issue with glassy highs at all.
 
...not sure if I should do the 75/55 mix now, or just go for two 75 hz with 30 oz magnets.
 
So, what did you end up getting and what were the results?
 
rlord1974":2ezh1jlk said:
So, what did you end up getting and what were the results?
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I ended up going with two of the Weber Legacies, 65Watt, 35oz mags, 75hz. After a long decision I decided I'd wait on the freq mix and just go with two 75s.

Here's a brief review I posted up shortly after installing them in my horizontal Recto 212. These speakers are amazing!!! Seriously in love with them and they are a perfect match for my Mark IVB. Sounded killer with my buddy's 800 too! :thumbsup:

http://www.rig-talk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=119062
 
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