Why don't 90's guitar players get talked about here?

[thiswaythatway]

Is it maybe because besides Cantrell that they all sucked?

Yngwie, Vivian Campbell, Jake E Lee, Nuno, Lynch, DeMartini, Schenker, VH, Randy, the list goes on and on.....get talked about still because they didn't suck.

Sure there's times I'd rather hear a certain Soundgarden song over a Ratt song. But I'd rather stick a fork in my ear than hear Kim Thayill take a solo.

 

[metalmaniac93]

Who knows? Maybe because the art of guitar solos started to die in the early to mid 90's with the exception of bands like Dream Theater, Pantera, etc? I really like the bands from the 90's including AIC/Jerry Cantrell, Soundgarden, early Pearl Jam, Tool, to name a few. AIC is actually one of my favorite bands and Jerry Cantrell is awesome IMO!!

 

[FourT6and2]

For me, listening to people solo for 30 minutes is torture. I don't care about all the meedley meedley meedley meedley. I want to hear good music, not good solos. It's like listening to a pop singer do runs for a whole song. Who the fuck cares about that. People get all wet for EVH. Van Halen has maybe two or three good songs. And people really only want to hear that shit as a background track in a funny buddy-cop parody movie where a black guy and a white guy team up to kick ass and take names: cue the synth line from Jump.

Yngqie? Please. Nobody outside of internet forums knows who he is, let alone knows how to pronounce his stupid name. Might as well be called Nguyen.

Vivian Campbell? Devo had like one good song and they've held onto those stupid tiered hats for ever. Jesus, let it go already.

Jake E Lee wishes he were Ozzy. Because people have actually heard of Ozzy. Who the fuck is Jake E Lee.

Never heard of Nuno. Lynch is more shred wankery that nobody outside of internet forums listens to, Schenker sounds like a brand of shitty fake German beer, Randy is the creepy dude working the CVS pharmacy, and Ratt? Really... Ratt? I've never met anybody in real life that actually liked Ratt. That had a job and could support themselves.

 

[carlygtr]

The 90's blew.

 

[metalmaniac93]

The 90's blew.

 

[metalmaniac93]

For me, listening to people solo for 30 minutes is torture. I don't care about all the meedley meedley meedley meedley. I want to hear good music, not good solos. It's like listening to a pop singer do runs for a whole song. Who the fuck cares about that. People get all wet for EVH. Van Halen has maybe two or three good songs. And people really only want to hear that shit as a background track in a funny buddy-cop parody movie where a black guy and a white guy team up to kick ass and take names: cue the synth line from Jump.

Yngqie? Please. Nobody outside of internet forums knows who he is, let alone knows how to pronounce his stupid name. Might as well be called Nguyen.

Vivian Campbell? Devo had like one good song and they've held onto those stupid tiered hats for ever. Jesus, let it go already.

Jake E Lee wishes he were Ozzy. Because people have actually heard of Ozzy. Who the fuck is Jake E Lee.

Never heard of Nuno. Lynch is more shred wankery that nobody outside of internet forums listens to, Schenker sounds like a brand of shitty fake German beer, Randy is the creepy dude working the CVS pharmacy, and Ratt? Really... Ratt? I've never met anybody in real life that actually liked Ratt. That had a job and could support themselves.

 

[billboogie]

 

[Shawn Lutz]

can you name a few players as I honestly cannot so I can ascertain why? The 90's aside from Dream Theater (for me anyway) were fairly lame for music and guitar solos or lack there of.

 

[carlygtr]

For me, listening to people solo for 30 minutes is torture. I don't care about all the meedley meedley meedley meedley. I want to hear good music, not good solos. It's like listening to a pop singer do runs for a whole song. Who the fuck cares about that. People get all wet for EVH. Van Halen has maybe two or three good songs. And people really only want to hear that shit as a background track in a funny buddy-cop parody movie where a black guy and a white guy team up to kick ass and take names: cue the synth line from Jump.

Yngqie? Please. Nobody outside of internet forums knows who he is, let alone knows how to pronounce his stupid name. Might as well be called Nguyen.

Vivian Campbell? Devo had like one good song and they've held onto those stupid tiered hats for ever. Jesus, let it go already.

Jake E Lee wishes he were Ozzy. Because people have actually heard of Ozzy. Who the fuck is Jake E Lee.

Never heard of Nuno. Lynch is more shred wankery that nobody outside of internet forums listens to, Schenker sounds like a brand of shitty fake German beer, Randy is the creepy dude working the CVS pharmacy, and Ratt? Really... Ratt? I've never met anybody in real life that actually liked Ratt. That had a job and could support themselves.

You must have had an erection when garbage pail bands like Nirvana and other 3 chord bands arrived in the 90's. Finally guys who sucks ass on guitar could get in a band, sing about hanging themselves, while staring at their shoes

 

[carlygtr]

Dream Theater- College Thesis music with a Twink singing over the top

 

[FourT6and2]

In all seriousness though, I think it's because in the '80s, playing guitar was an ego thing. It was about showing off, going big. Whereas in the '90s it was more about the song itself. It was a return to writing a solid tune with a hook. Just a shift in perspective, style, and trends. So when it comes time to BS about a guitarist all day on a forum, nobody is going to want to talk about the guy who played some power chords for 3 minutes on this or that tune. They want to talk about the douchebag who mashed his fingers really fast on those strings up high on the fretboard and played with his nipple hair while wearing animal print. Go figure.

 

[rupe]

The 90's blew.

And there you have it

 

[FourT6and2]

For me, listening to people solo for 30 minutes is torture. I don't care about all the meedley meedley meedley meedley. I want to hear good music, not good solos. It's like listening to a pop singer do runs for a whole song. Who the fuck cares about that. People get all wet for EVH. Van Halen has maybe two or three good songs. And people really only want to hear that shit as a background track in a funny buddy-cop parody movie where a black guy and a white guy team up to kick ass and take names: cue the synth line from Jump.

Yngqie? Please. Nobody outside of internet forums knows who he is, let alone knows how to pronounce his stupid name. Might as well be called Nguyen.

Vivian Campbell? Devo had like one good song and they've held onto those stupid tiered hats for ever. Jesus, let it go already.

Jake E Lee wishes he were Ozzy. Because people have actually heard of Ozzy. Who the fuck is Jake E Lee.

Never heard of Nuno. Lynch is more shred wankery that nobody outside of internet forums listens to, Schenker sounds like a brand of shitty fake German beer, Randy is the creepy dude working the CVS pharmacy, and Ratt? Really... Ratt? I've never met anybody in real life that actually liked Ratt. That had a job and could support themselves.

You must have had an erection when garbage pail bands like Nirvana and other 3 chord bands arrived in the 90's. Finally guys who sucks ass on guitar could get in a band, sing about hanging themselves, while staring at their shoes

Ok, 1) I actually hate Nirvana. And 2) your sense of humor called. Oh wait, no it didn't because it was in one of those bands singing about hanging themselves. And it did. Because it's dead. Your sense of humor died. You have none. I'm being really obvious here.

lol but in all seriousness, some of the best songs ever in the history of ever were written with like 3 chords. Don't need a nipple-tingling, teased-out-hair inducing, spandex sporting solo in every song to make it good. I can admit that the '80s had some awesome music. The theme to Beverly Hills Cop was pretty baller.

 

[The Hoff]

This should be interesting. Shit is already being thrown.

For the most part medley dedley wedley kind of stuff just doesn't do it for me-unless it benefits the song. There are examples of bands/players that do just that in all decades. Maybe just in a different style. Here is a newer band who in my opinion, does it:

 

[TheHog107]

"You must have had an erection when garbage pail bands like Nirvana and other 3 chord bands arrived in the 90's. Finally guys who sucks ass on guitar could get in a band, sing about hanging themselves, while staring at their shoes"

Man..... I thought this was freakin hilarious!

 

[FourT6and2]

But what the fuck do I know. The first CDs I ever bought were TLC and Garth Brooks. DON'T GO CHASING WATERFALLS!!!! That shit is my jam. Changed my life.

 

[moltenmetalburn]

For me, listening to people solo for 30 minutes is torture. I don't care about all the meedley meedley meedley meedley. I want to hear good music, not good solos. It's like listening to a pop singer do runs for a whole song. Who the fuck cares about that. People get all wet for EVH. Van Halen has maybe two or three good songs. And people really only want to hear that shit as a background track in a funny buddy-cop parody movie where a black guy and a white guy team up to kick ass and take names: cue the synth line from Jump.

Yngqie? Please. Nobody outside of internet forums knows who he is, let alone knows how to pronounce his stupid name. Might as well be called Nguyen.

Vivian Campbell? Devo had like one good song and they've held onto those stupid tiered hats for ever. Jesus, let it go already.

Jake E Lee wishes he were Ozzy. Because people have actually heard of Ozzy. Who the fuck is Jake E Lee.

Never heard of Nuno. Lynch is more shred wankery that nobody outside of internet forums listens to, Schenker sounds like a brand of shitty fake German beer, Randy is the creepy dude working the CVS pharmacy, and Ratt? Really... Ratt? I've never met anybody in real life that actually liked Ratt. That had a job and could support themselves.

You must have had an erection when garbage pail bands like Nirvana and other 3 chord bands arrived in the 90's. Finally guys who sucks ass on guitar could get in a band, sing about hanging themselves, while staring at their shoes

Closeminded at best.

After more than a decade touring as a guitar tech I'll say this. The greatest players in the world don't play out or have bands. Can I now call them wholly unsuccessful?

If you thought shred talent had anything to do with selling records or making money you are mistaken, right now some of the worst players are making $ hand over fist.

Professional bands do not make albums for musicians , they make them for money. The fans get what THEY can digest so they will buy it.

So make ART, or make a product, very few accomplish both, and when they do it's unintentional and magical.

 

[metalmaniac93]

For me, listening to people solo for 30 minutes is torture. I don't care about all the meedley meedley meedley meedley. I want to hear good music, not good solos. It's like listening to a pop singer do runs for a whole song. Who the fuck cares about that. People get all wet for EVH. Van Halen has maybe two or three good songs. And people really only want to hear that shit as a background track in a funny buddy-cop parody movie where a black guy and a white guy team up to kick ass and take names: cue the synth line from Jump.

Yngqie? Please. Nobody outside of internet forums knows who he is, let alone knows how to pronounce his stupid name. Might as well be called Nguyen.

Vivian Campbell? Devo had like one good song and they've held onto those stupid tiered hats for ever. Jesus, let it go already.

Jake E Lee wishes he were Ozzy. Because people have actually heard of Ozzy. Who the fuck is Jake E Lee.

Never heard of Nuno. Lynch is more shred wankery that nobody outside of internet forums listens to, Schenker sounds like a brand of shitty fake German beer, Randy is the creepy dude working the CVS pharmacy, and Ratt? Really... Ratt? I've never met anybody in real life that actually liked Ratt. That had a job and could support themselves.

You must have had an erection when garbage pail bands like Nirvana and other 3 chord bands arrived in the 90's. Finally guys who sucks ass on guitar could get in a band, sing about hanging themselves, while staring at their shoes

Closeminded at best.

After more than a decade touring as a guitar tech I'll say this. The greatest players in the world don't play out or have bands. Can I now call them wholly unsuccessful?

If you thought shred talent had anything to do with selling records or making money you are mistaken, right now some of the worst players are making $ hand over fist.

Professional bands do not make albums for musicians , they make them for money. The fans get what THEY can digest so they will buy it.

So make ART, or make a product, very few accomplish both, and when they do it's unintentional and magical.

Well said!!!

 

[metalmaniac93]

But what the fuck do I know. The first CDs I ever bought were TLC and Garth Brooks. DON'T GO CHASING WATERFALLS!!!! That shit is my jam. Changed my life.

TLC and Garth Brooks!!

 

[The Hoff]

Just a shift in perspective, style, and trends.

This really explains it all. Just as the prototypical "attractive" lady has developed over time. Perspectives, styles, and trends change.

But just as there are currently girls who have that "50s look," if that's what you prefer, there are still bands who have continued to show their guitar talents in an 80s fashion into the 90s (and into today). Granted not as "mainstream."