Why is no one making Mark series clones?

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not to mention that a simple jcm800 looks a lot cleaner then the complex one posted above.

btw. bugera isn't chinese....
the chinese are just the slaves to the german masterminds...
 
And as we're talking cheap clones... For some reason, I feel a urge to buy a Bugera 1960... Or at least try one. Anyone else? Or even better; have anyone actually tried on? :confused:
 
hunter":23to7jki said:
There are two types of clones. The "better" clones and the "cheaper" clones.

As people rightly stated, cheaper is difficult with the current market for 2nd hand Mesas.

To build a "better" clone will be difficult, as unlike with Marshall, where they have gone to cheap/cheap production/price amps, Mesa have always kept their standards high.

So one might pay 2,000$ for a great Marshall clone, that is better than a new Marshall, but it will be hard to create a reasonable MkIV clone that claims to be better built than the original.
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Right or wrong, I in my mind I separate the "better" clones from the "cheaper" clones. I tend to look down on the Cheaper clones and view the better clones (or clones with improvements) in a much more positive light.

I know Mesa's are really expensive outside the USA, so that might be why the Lemarc French mark IV was launched as a 'Cheaper' clone.
 
"Le Marc" -- is that like "Le Big Mac?"

:lol: :LOL:

Everyone here has basically hit it. Could you clone a Mark IV given the schematic and a box full of parts? Sure. Would it sound as good? Possibly, if you used high-or-comparable grade components. Would the price point be lower? Probably not. Could you get it cheaper by using lower-quality components? Sure, but that would most likely kill the sound.

That's the hallmark of a great vs. good design--you can't easily knock it off for cheaper.

IMHO, YMMV,

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channel switches are hard to make.
so much could go wrong.

I don't think you could force most builders to make a fryette pitbull UL or a diezel herbert.
 
How hard would it be to build a single channel boogie clone? Would this make more sense?

A lot of people really like the lead channel from the MK IV. Could a single channel amp be built based on the lead channel alone?

I'm not an amp builder, but would be interested to know what you guys think....
 
but the whole point of the mesa amps at least the mark and the rectifiers are to be multi channel amps with a billion options...

making a single channel clone would kind of defeat the purpose...it wouldn't be much of a clone at that point.
 
garutter":4mpf2i3i said:
How hard would it be to build a single channel boogie clone? Would this make more sense?

A lot of people really like the lead channel from the MK IV. Could a single channel amp be built based on the lead channel alone?
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As a MarkIV owner, I think that's a fantastic idea. Often I just stay on the lead channel and roll down my guitar's volume control for clean and dirty-clean tones and change the pickup switch and tone control. I guess deep down I prefer single-channel amps. Yet the lead channel of my MarkIV has the best tone I've ever had.
 
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