Wizard MC2 vs. Bogner TJ vs. Diezel Hagen

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How was this recorded? If it was with a two notes then there is your problem. Everything out of it sounds the same :lol: :LOL:
 
Toss up between the Hagen and the Wizard, the Bogner sounded scooped and thin compared to the others to my ear
Great riffage btw!
 
They all sound good and close. I guess I would compare the clean and mid gain channels If I was wondering which to keep.
 
Wizard and Diezel sounded best, I think the Wizard stood out a little bit more, but the Hagen held it's own. They sounded a little different from each other through my speakers.
 
I always hear this digital quality with two notes. It just doesn't sound like the real amp to me at all. Never got along with my two notes live.
 
The Wizard

I agree about the cleaner and mid gain tones being the deciding factor on what to keep. Most high gain amps only exhibit a major difference in the room, in person under your fingers. Most can be mic'd and EQ'd to sound extremely close.
 
I guess man. Would be interesting to hear it through your API setup. I always wanted to get the API lunchbox deal but it costs a pretty penny.
 
Bogner for me. I really enjoy listening to your recordings....thanks
 
I realized that I have yet to hear a two notes clip that sounds halfway decent. Super expensive heads and then the tone is ruined by the two notes. Gojira started using them live and their guitar tone went to shit.
 
Hagen, for that sound how can you deny how much clearer the last half of the clip was. The wizard was kicking ass all the way up till that part. Both sound great. Bogner to me was a middle ground.
 
A few things I noticed...The Bogner clip didn't appear to be as loud to me. I liked all three amps. The Bogner clip was my favorite. I felt the Diezel was a great blend of the Bogner and Wizard combined. The Wizard seemed the angriest to me. The Bogner had a little bit more smoothness around the very edges (if that makes sense) and it had more saturation. The Diezel had the saturation of the Bogner and the punch of the Wizard to my ears. The argument could be made that the Wizard may cut the best as it appeared to be the brightest of the three amps in the clip. I would go 1) Bogner 2) Diezel 3) Wizard. I don't own a Wizard but would say the Diezel is a bit more versatile than the Bogner. I own both and absolutely love both. Nice clips :thumbsup:
 
I own a torpeo live and i have found the best results using the matching cabs with the amps. Not saying these sound bad and in fact I'm not commenting on the clips at all...More for other people having issues with the torpedo products. I have a Friedman small box and the Friedman v30 cab is the best sounding cab by a long shot. Also i can get a much better sound using the Arcade modem I am not sure why though.
 
Always enjoy your clips Reza! Thanks for posting this.
I'm kinda partial to the Bogner & the Diezel, based on the clips.
BUT...... I've never owned a Wizard, and everyone says you have to feel the punch in the room to get a true picture of what the Wizard brings to the table.
Without having all 3 together in front of me, I have no idea how close you could EQ them to sound the same, but I think they sound different enough in the clips to keep them all.
If you can only keep 1 it's probably gonna come down to how they feel, because all 3 sound pretty good.
 
They do sound close but those amps are far apart in the room.
Wizards record very well which is why they have a big studio following.
 
They all sound solid to me, and if I had all 3, someone would be hitting the road. For me, I have a MC2 and it's a keeper. The rhythm channel on the Wizard destroyed the Bogner TJ's clean channel that I used to have. I have used the MC2 live at about 3 gigs, and it really punches it's way through the mix like no other amp I've ever had. They are also a beauty to behold under the hood. Never owned a Hagan and thusly can't attest. The only struggle I have with the wizard is that at times, I wish the gain had just a fraction more. Other times it enuff. What's weird is I have a Steinberger GL2T ala EVH, it an original mid eighties one with original EMG's. I'm not really a big EMG guy, there ok IMHO, but I fired up the 'Berger thru the MC2 the other day and was floored by the amount of gain that the amp was giving me with this guitar. I'm thinking that the active EMG's where just the right level on the input signal to the amp to give the Wizard that extra bit a Meltdown that I at times felt I was missing. With other non active pickups, a pedal up front gets u there no prob, it was just cool to see how the EMG's pushed the Wizard it to full on Palm mute, turd shaking in the lower intestine mayheim.
I might try and do a comparison of this and post to demonstrate.
 
Hagen definitely excels here for me. Found the TJ quite boring in this context honestly
 
I think I liked the Hagen the best. It's got the clarity of the Wizard with some extra meat on it. The TJ sounds dark and flubby in comparison to the other two.
 
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