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My buddy Hans borrowed me his 2009 Herbert and I compared it with my 2011 mk2 version. They are dialed in about the same with the knobs. I might be able to match the tone if I punched up the mk1 version but I didn't try.
Overall I'd say the new mk2 version is punchier and more in your face. While the mk1 sounds a bit flatter. Although some guys would prefer the mk1 version. "Flat" could also be considered warmer and smoother.
The clip here is recorded w a Zoom Q3 on auto setting. The volumes were about 8:30 o'clock.

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big thanks for doing this!


caffeine hasn't made it to my brain yet, so i'll give a better listen later!

Very cool to here the two side by side. But I really can't tell any difference though .

Really? This was my first thought: "The first amp is the mkI!"

I know how my amp sounds like.
The new one sounds more raw. Really awesome!!!!!!!!!

they both sound like crap!

nice clips. MKII sounds killaaaaahhhh!!

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Pauly .....

As someone who has been without his MkI for over 3 weeks now, p...a...t...i....e....n....t....l...y waiting for his MkII to ship, I say wow. WOW!
Nice!
Thanks so much for posting this. I think I'll make it.

Cool, I don't think there is a huge difference, both still sound really good
That being said I'd buy the MK.II over the MK.I if money were not an issue

Could the difference in sound also be attributed to old tubes vs new tubes?

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EXCELLENT point!! Anyone??

Peter, if you don't mind, what are the differences of the II versus the I..?? I know about the trannies and such, but was there a voicing change??

Thanks Herr Diezel...aka Poppa!!
Mo

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First off, what's that little bit you're doing right around 1:19...?? Sounds bloody trick man!!

For me, sounds as though they're both pretty low volume - judging from the pick sound. I think they sound quite similar, the real proof would be in the higher volume registries. However, the Mk.II sounds just a bit more bitey on initial attack. Other than this?? They sound very, very similar.

Thanks for this!!
V.

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This is when you make some hammer-on´s and pull-off´s with the left hand on one string while pushing for example your little finger from the right hand on the strings and move it. It´s basically a flageolet Have fun trying it out

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I've had both amps here for a few days now and I've been going back 'n forth. A few other thoughts I have...
I love MK1, I crave it's tone. Something about it's tone is addicting. It's got a nice smooth warm type tone.
That said the new mk2 version is more 3D. It also has a stronger low end response. (if you can believe there is more!) The mk2 version is also a little less compressed in ch 2.

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Waiting for the MKIII

First one sounds better to me. But it could just be that you're playing different licks on each...

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I know it would be a major pain in the ass BUT, if you could play the same riff(s) for around 30 seconds and then change out the tubes then it would be more apples to apples. The very minor difference could EASILY be attributed to the tubes. Peter himself said the circuits for Channels 2 and 3 were NOT tweaked.

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papa you know im just joshing!! If I rob the local bank i will be getting an MKII...and a Schmidt too.

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Trick is to rob one that's not local - jump a state line or two, stolen vehicle, make it quick, have a back up ride hiding, dump the 1st car, hop in the next, change your clothes - just saying...

V.

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I aint got that kinda time Mojo!! But thanks for the thoughts.

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....... and use a Subaru Forester to get through the woods

Just always keeping my peeps' best interests in mind M'Man... Always thinking

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Where you at? Time to pay up!

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