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Herbert clips MK1 vs. MK2

Tue, Mar 01, 2011 9:57am

My buddy Hans borrowed me his 2009 Herbert and I compared it with my 2011 mk2 version. They are dialed in about the same with the knobs. I might be able to match the tone if I punched up the mk1 version but I didn't try.
Overall I'd say the new mk2 version is punchier and more in your face. While the mk1 sounds a bit flatter. Although some guys would prefer the mk1 version. "Flat" could also be considered warmer and smoother.
The clip here is recorded w a Zoom Q3 on auto setting. The volumes were about 8:30 o'clock.

Re: Herbert clips MK1 vs. MK2

Tue, Mar 01, 2011 10:11am

big thanks for doing this! :rock: :rock:


caffeine hasn't made it to my brain yet, so i'll give a better listen later!

Re: Herbert clips MK1 vs. MK2

Tue, Mar 01, 2011 11:56am

Very cool to here the two side by side. But I really can't tell any difference though :).

Re: Herbert clips MK1 vs. MK2

Tue, Mar 01, 2011 2:37pm

Really? This was my first thought: "The first amp is the mkI!"

I know how my amp sounds like.
The new one sounds more raw. Really awesome!!!!!!!!!

Re: Herbert clips MK1 vs. MK2

Tue, Mar 01, 2011 3:43pm

they both sound like crap! :jerkit:

nice clips. MKII sounds killaaaaahhhh!!

Re: Herbert clips MK1 vs. MK2

Tue, Mar 01, 2011 6:54pm

PaulyPanacea wrote:they both sound like crap! :jerkit:

nice clips. MKII sounds killaaaaahhhh!!


Pauly ..... :gethim:

Re: Herbert clips MK1 vs. MK2

Tue, Mar 01, 2011 7:38pm

As someone who has been without his MkI for over 3 weeks now, p...a...t...i....e....n....t....l...y waiting for his MkII to ship, I say wow. WOW!
Nice!
Thanks so much for posting this. I think I'll make it.

Re: Herbert clips MK1 vs. MK2

Tue, Mar 01, 2011 9:11pm

Cool, I don't think there is a huge difference, both still sound really good
That being said I'd buy the MK.II over the MK.I if money were not an issue

Could the difference in sound also be attributed to old tubes vs new tubes?

Re: Herbert clips MK1 vs. MK2

Tue, Mar 01, 2011 11:11pm

Nico wrote:Cool, I don't think there is a huge difference, both still sound really good
That being said I'd buy the MK.II over the MK.I if money were not an issue

Could the difference in sound also be attributed to old tubes vs new tubes?

EXCELLENT point!! Anyone??

Peter, if you don't mind, what are the differences of the II versus the I..?? I know about the trannies and such, but was there a voicing change??

Thanks Herr Diezel...aka Poppa!!
Mo :salute:

Re: Herbert clips MK1 vs. MK2

Tue, Mar 01, 2011 11:32pm

Ampaddict wrote:My buddy Hans borrowed me his 2009 Herbert and I compared it with my 2011 mk2 version. They are dialed in about the same with the knobs. I might be able to match the tone if I punched up the mk1 version but I didn't try.
Overall I'd say the new mk2 version is punchier and more in your face. While the mk1 sounds a bit flatter. Although some guys would prefer the mk1 version. "Flat" could also be considered warmer and smoother.
The clip here is recorded w a Zoom Q3 on auto setting. The volumes were about 8:30 o'clock.


First off, what's that little bit you're doing right around 1:19...?? Sounds bloody trick man!!

For me, sounds as though they're both pretty low volume - judging from the pick sound. I think they sound quite similar, the real proof would be in the higher volume registries. However, the Mk.II sounds just a bit more bitey on initial attack. Other than this?? They sound very, very similar.

Thanks for this!!
V.

Re: Herbert clips MK1 vs. MK2

Wed, Mar 02, 2011 7:57am

Ventura wrote:First off, what's that little bit you're doing right around 1:19...?? Sounds bloody trick man!!


This is when you make some hammer-on´s and pull-off´s with the left hand on one string while pushing for example your little finger from the right hand on the strings and move it. It´s basically a flageolet ;) Have fun trying it out :rock:

Re: Herbert clips MK1 vs. MK2

Wed, Mar 02, 2011 8:11am

classic ;)

Re: Herbert clips MK1 vs. MK2

Wed, Mar 02, 2011 9:54am

I've had both amps here for a few days now and I've been going back 'n forth. A few other thoughts I have...
I love MK1, I crave it's tone. Something about it's tone is addicting. It's got a nice smooth warm type tone.
That said the new mk2 version is more 3D. It also has a stronger low end response. (if you can believe there is more!) The mk2 version is also a little less compressed in ch 2.

Re: Herbert clips MK1 vs. MK2

Wed, Mar 02, 2011 9:58am

Waiting for the MKIII

Re: Herbert clips MK1 vs. MK2

Wed, Mar 02, 2011 10:17am

First one sounds better to me. But it could just be that you're playing different licks on each...

Re: Herbert clips MK1 vs. MK2

Wed, Mar 02, 2011 10:56am

Hartmut wrote:
Ventura wrote:First off, what's that little bit you're doing right around 1:19...?? Sounds bloody trick man!!


This is when you make some hammer-on´s and pull-off´s with the left hand on one string while pushing for example your little finger from the right hand on the strings and move it. It´s basically a flageolet ;) Have fun trying it out :rock:

me likey...

V.

Re: Herbert clips MK1 vs. MK2

Wed, Mar 02, 2011 12:54pm

I know it would be a major pain in the ass BUT, if you could play the same riff(s) for around 30 seconds and then change out the tubes then it would be more apples to apples. The very minor difference could EASILY be attributed to the tubes. Peter himself said the circuits for Channels 2 and 3 were NOT tweaked.

Re: Herbert clips MK1 vs. MK2

Wed, Mar 02, 2011 3:11pm

Peter Diezel wrote:
PaulyPanacea wrote:they both sound like crap! :jerkit:

nice clips. MKII sounds killaaaaahhhh!!


Pauly ..... :gethim:



papa you know im just joshing!! If I rob the local bank i will be getting an MKII...and a Schmidt too. :rock:

Re: Herbert clips MK1 vs. MK2

Wed, Mar 02, 2011 3:43pm

PaulyPanacea wrote:
Peter Diezel wrote:
PaulyPanacea wrote:they both sound like crap! :jerkit:

nice clips. MKII sounds killaaaaahhhh!!


Pauly ..... :gethim:



papa you know im just joshing!! If I rob the local bank i will be getting an MKII...and a Schmidt too. :rock:

Trick is to rob one that's not local - jump a state line or two, stolen vehicle, make it quick, have a back up ride hiding, dump the 1st car, hop in the next, change your clothes - just saying...

V.

Re: Herbert clips MK1 vs. MK2

Thu, Mar 03, 2011 12:28pm

I aint got that kinda time Mojo!! But thanks for the thoughts. :lol: :LOL:

Re: Herbert clips MK1 vs. MK2

Thu, Mar 03, 2011 1:54pm

PaulyPanacea wrote:I aint got that kinda time Mojo!! But thanks for the thoughts. :lol: :LOL:



....... and use a Subaru Forester to get through the woods ;)

:lol: :LOL:

Re: Herbert clips MK1 vs. MK2

Thu, Mar 03, 2011 9:42pm

PaulyPanacea wrote:I aint got that kinda time Mojo!! But thanks for the thoughts. :lol: :LOL:

Just always keeping my peeps' best interests in mind M'Man... Always thinking :D

V.

Re: Herbert clips MK1 vs. MK2

Sun, Nov 04, 2018 3:35pm

bailey12444 wrote:Waiting for the MKIII

Where you at? Time to pay up!
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