Tone Vise Pitch Shifter - Move Over D-Tuna??

Emg77":xj4aeiiv said:
Tone Vise":xj4aeiiv said:
Could you post a picture of your trem from the side? In drop d it shouldn't be touching the whale tail and the logo should be perpendicular to the face of the guitar. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfXQvzBKWPU

Here is a picture.

Here's a side shot of a installed Pitch Shifter. This is about the minimum gap you want. Just make sure it clears the fine tuner and the leaf spring underneath too. If it's too close just back it out a turn or two and reinstall.
 

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Tone Vise":2ln8peqj said:
Emg77":2ln8peqj said:
Tone Vise":2ln8peqj said:
Could you post a picture of your trem from the side? In drop d it shouldn't be touching the whale tail and the logo should be perpendicular to the face of the guitar. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfXQvzBKWPU

Here is a picture.

Here's a side shot of a installed Pitch Shifter. This is about the minimum gap you want. Just make sure it clears the fine tuner and the leaf spring underneath too. If it's too close just back it out a turn or two and reinstall.

Are mine not installed correctly?
 
zuel69":3agtkmkh said:
Riggins1966":3agtkmkh said:
psychodave":3agtkmkh said:
This is a nice invention, but to be a pessimist, I have some issues. I like to use pointy Charvels and due to the neck angle and lack of string retainer behind the nut, strings go sharp when tightening down on the nut clamps. So not being able to fine tune the E string is a major issue.

thinking about this, you probably wouldn't like the D-Tuna either.

With both devices, you have to tune one of the notes to pitch and lock it. With the D-Tuna, you tune the D to pitch, vice versa with the Pitch Shifter.

Yea, but with the d-tuna you can still fine tune at the bridge for E and D. Unfortunately I'm with Dave, especially live where I tend to knock my guitar out of tune a little after each song needing a quick fine tune.

According to FU-Tone's D-Tuna installation instruction video (which I followed to install one on another guitar,) you back the tuning screw all the way out, then back in just until it touches the lock screw while in D. This means there's no room to tune if it's sharp. If you're leaving yourself room to tune, then according to them you're fudging it a bit. Which, of course, if it works is cool. I can't tune it will in D on mine, though.

Or I could have misunderstood the video, which is totally possible.
 
D-tuna works perfect. You tune to D and when you push it back in you use the little set screw to get to E.
 
Pat6969":18wovi84 said:
D-tuna works perfect. You tune to D and when you push it back in you use the little set screw to get to E.

I like both of them honestly, they both perform as expected. The Tone Vise is just far less parts to be concerned with.
 
The D tuna lets you fine tune in D or E. Of course the set screw has to be perfect in E for that to work, and it does.

I keep my set screw a couple turns in so i have room to tune up or down. Not too much as the tuna gets too tight.
 
Tone Vise":2g3h94n6 said:
Emg77":2g3h94n6 said:
Tone Vise":2g3h94n6 said:
Could you post a picture of your trem from the side? In drop d it shouldn't be touching the whale tail and the logo should be perpendicular to the face of the guitar. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfXQvzBKWPU

Here is a picture.

Here's a side shot of a installed Pitch Shifter. This is about the minimum gap you want. Just make sure it clears the fine tuner and the leaf spring underneath too. If it's too close just back it out a turn or two and reinstall.

Yes, I’ve tried it in all positions and it is still Sharp on the D. I’m not sure what else to do. Looks like I’m going to have to send it back. Unless there is something I’m missing.
 
7 Stringer":11smwbtl said:
The D tuna lets you fine tune in D or E. Of course the set screw has to be perfect in E for that to work, and it does.

I keep my fine tune screw a couple turns in so i have room to tune up or down. Not too much as the tuna gets too tight and is hard to get in and out from E to D
 
Installed on my the Charvel and it works as expected. No complaints. Pretty easy to use. Just gotta be sure that E gets tuned right. It drops perfectly into D for me so far. I had my tech install it as I'm not to mechanically inclined.
 
Update: played it at band jam. Tuned E to pitch. Locked nut. Played in tune. Then dropped to D using the pitch shifter and it went to D. I did fine tune it slightly in D, but only once that first time, as I’m very heavy handed. That was the only time. I engaged it back up to E and it was in tune. Then back down to D and again and it was in tune.

Works exactly as I’d hoped.
 
Junk Yard Dog":3u0j430d said:
Update: played it at band jam. Tuned E to pitch. Locked nut. Played in tune. Then dropped to D using the pitch shifter and it went to D. I did fine tune it slightly in D, but only once that first time, as I’m very heavy handed. That was the only time. I engaged it back up to E and it was in tune. Then back down to D and again and it was in tune.

Works exactly as I’d hoped.

I gigged 2 guitars with it installed last weekend, in standard and half step, and they performed perfectly for me as well.
 
Junk Yard Dog":2shyn4ln said:
Update: played it at band jam. Tuned E to pitch. Locked nut. Played in tune. Then dropped to D using the pitch shifter and it went to D. I did fine tune it slightly in D, but only once that first time, as I’m very heavy handed. That was the only time. I engaged it back up to E and it was in tune. Then back down to D and again and it was in tune.

Works exactly as I’d hoped.

I’m glad it’s working out for you. I’m not sure what’s going on with the one I received but the D is Sharp. I have installed at every threaded position from close to the whale tail to all the way out. I get the same result.
 
Emg77":21yadixo said:
Junk Yard Dog":21yadixo said:
Update: played it at band jam. Tuned E to pitch. Locked nut. Played in tune. Then dropped to D using the pitch shifter and it went to D. I did fine tune it slightly in D, but only once that first time, as I’m very heavy handed. That was the only time. I engaged it back up to E and it was in tune. Then back down to D and again and it was in tune.

Works exactly as I’d hoped.

I’m glad it’s working out for you. I’m not sure what’s going on with the one I received but the D is Sharp. I have installed at every threaded position from close to the whale tail to all the way out. I get the same result.

Is it sharp with no room left to adjust the tuner?

Also, what kind of trem? I had a little trouble the first go around because I was installing on a FR Special and the provided stock FR screw as a bit too short. Mark sent a longer one and now no issues.
 
Can you adjust your fine tuner up enough to where it's not protruding from beneath the whale tail at all? If part of it is showing then your string will be sharp.
 
Ran into an issue with my non recessed Floyd Rose.

Mine has a metal shim under the fine tuner tension plate. Whenever I drop it to D the tension plate pushes into the shim causing the bridge to be pulled back and therefore causes the strings to all go sharp.

Have you ever run into this?

Here is it. I pushed the bar down so it's visible....no its not setup that way!



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You don't have it installed correctly, adjust it closer to the whale tail until there's about a 1/16" gap.
 

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Metlupass2":ugr17ghk said:
Ran into an issue with my non recessed Floyd Rose.

Mine has a metal shim under the fine tuner tension plate. Whenever I drop it to D the tension plate pushes into the shim causing the bridge to be pulled back and therefore causes the strings to all go sharp.

Have you ever run into this?

Here is it. I pushed the bar down so it's visible....no its not setup that way!



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I thought in order for this to work your bridge cannot be floating so if it can pull back with less string tension, then that tells me it is floating, no?
 
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