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Hey everyone I have a Peavey 6505+ and play Black/Stoner/Doom Metal in my band and currently run it through a Mesa Boogie Rectifier 4x12 Cab. I am looking to add another 4x12 to make it a full stack and was wondering if I should fatten up my tone by adding either a Marshall 1960 Cab or an Orange PPC412 instead of just another Mesa Boogie Cab? Also how would I set this up OHM wise out of my head? This is my first time running a full stack. Also if you have any other suggestions on a cab that would be a great pairing it would be greatly appreciated.

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Man, to me the 6505 sounds best with a Rectifier cab. I would just get another one imo. So stock Mesa cabs are 8 ohms. To run 2 you would run the amp at 4 ohms.


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I think people seemed to like the Vader cabs with the 6505 if you can find one.

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I had a Orange PPC212 with when I had a 6505+. The 2x12 was surprising at the amount of low end it had. It was pretty directional sound projection wise.

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Also could I even run my Mesa cab and an Orange cab together? The Mesa is an 8 ohm and the Orange is a 16 ohm. How many ohm's would I set my head to?


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BryceJay7 wrote:
Also could I even run my Mesa cab and an Orange cab together? The Mesa is an 8 ohm and the Orange is a 16 ohm. How many ohm's would I set my head to?

I wouldn't. One cab will sound like crap.
You're second cab needs to be 8 ohms.

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Throw a pair of k85's or K100's in there. Instant boom.

Or EVM12L's

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swamptrashstompboxes wrote:
Throw a pair of k85's or K100's in there. Instant boom.

Or EVM12L's



Are there any cab companies that come with those speakers with them already in there? I could get one And run it parallel with my Mesa cab


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BryceJay7 wrote:
Are there any cab companies that come with those speakers with them already in there? I could get one And run it parallel with my Mesa cab

Orange. https://orangeamps.com/ppc412hp8/

Diezel. https://www.diezelamplification.com/cabinets/

There used to be an old Marshall Mode Four cab with K-100's too. It pops up used every so often nowadays. It was the MF400. They're often inexpensive, and they're built well.


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BryceJay7 wrote:
swamptrashstompboxes wrote:
Throw a pair of k85's or K100's in there. Instant boom.

Or EVM12L's



Are there any cab companies that come with those speakers with them already in there? I could get one And run it parallel with my Mesa cab


The old Peavey Butcher and some of the VTM cabs came stock with G12K85s. I've owned one of each. Currently I have a Peavey MC 2x12 with G12K85s.

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Tronald Dump wrote:
BryceJay7 wrote:
swamptrashstompboxes wrote:
Throw a pair of k85's or K100's in there. Instant boom.

Or EVM12L's



Are there any cab companies that come with those speakers with them already in there? I could get one And run it parallel with my Mesa cab


The old Peavey Butcher and some of the VTM cabs came stock with G12K85s. I've owned one of each. Currently I have a Peavey MC 2x12 with G12K85s.


Peavey 412MS cabs are 16 ohms though, so not going to work in parallel with a Boogie 4x12.

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Rex Rocker wrote:
BryceJay7 wrote:
Are there any cab companies that come with those speakers with them already in there? I could get one And run it parallel with my Mesa cab

Orange. https://orangeamps.com/ppc412hp8/

Diezel. https://www.diezelamplification.com/cabinets/

There used to be an old Marshall Mode Four cab with K-100's too. It pops up used every so often nowadays. It was the MF400. They're often inexpensive, and they're built well.


I see that the Diezel Front Loaded cab has G12K-100 SPEAKERS in it. It is 16ohm stereo and 8 ohm's mono. If I ran that and my Mesa cab parallel, would I run them from my amp at 16ohm's, 8 ohm's or 4ohm's?


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FYI, if you buy the Diezel 4x12 from a dealer in the US (one made by BAD) they are actually 16ohm, not 8 ohm. Diezel Germany uses 8ohm speakers and BAD uses 16ohm.

http://diezelusa.com/cabinets/diezel-412fk-4x12

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FYI, if you buy the Diezel 4x12 from a dealer in the US (one made by BAD) they are actually 16ohm, not 8 ohm. Diezel Germany uses 8ohm speakers and BAD uses 16ohm.

http://diezelusa.com/cabinets/diezel-412fk-4x12



You're right I just noticed that. I see that Diezel cab also comes in a 2x12 in 8 ohms. If I ran both of them parallel would I set my amp to 4ohms? Being that my Mesa 4x12 is 8ohms


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Exactly. I have an older 8 ohm Diezel frontloaded 4x12 and a newer 8 ohm front loaded 2x12. I run them together at 4 ohms.

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Look into a cab with 2X12"s and 1x15".I have a Randall cab with a pair of V30's and a 15" eminence legend in it. Massive with a Splawn Promod.

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