Post it, brotha!GJgo":2fuecdw0 said:Racerxrated":2fuecdw0 said:If you mean gear forum 'clips' then yes there aren't many decent SLO/Wizard clips out there. But plenty of pro records have them. Pretty Reckless have a great recorded Wizard tone; and Ratt/Warren Haynes/Lynch Mob plus others I forget have pretty nice SLO tones. But if we listen to clips of Coliseums they are Ok at best; but we know better since we own them.GJgo":2fuecdw0 said:I've found that while Marks can get you the best ever tone in the room when playing by (with?) yourself, they are a challenge to get that same tone in the band mix & quite difficult to get the same tone recorded without a shitload of post. Every time I record a song with any Mark I inevitably spend 1-2 hours turning knobs & cussing trying to get a recorded tone I'm happy with. And then I end up settling & fixing it in post.
I still remember when I was in "all C++ all the time" mode & took one of them to a band rehearsal for the first time, I was shocked at how at full scoop the amp still sounded boxy & not as metal as the other guitarist's solid state amp & modeling pedalboard.
Out of all the Marks I've had only one (the B+ Coli) did it for me in the band mix and only one (the C+ SR) did it for me recording. To be fair I didn't have a chance to try the IVa or the JP in either of those settings. To be honest that factory SR was the best natural tone of all the IIs I've had, but the Coli is just a destroyer of worlds. I've debated trying to buy the SR back, or maybe getting a IVb. Or just being done.
I totally get that the Wizard & SLO have the same "recording fail" phenomenon. I can kind of hear it in the clips. So, with those I like to focus on what I hear in the gain structure because that comes across fine- it's the body & 3-dimensionality that does not record well. I'm still interested in a Wizard some day but I just can't see the SLO gain structure for metal. TBH I've never liked the brown sound though.
The C+ KRG is without question the king of the Mark hill. The K power section is so emotionally amazing that my B+ ultimately displaced all 4 of my IIC+. The experience that I've had sums up like this- Marks are the hot chick that you keep dating even though she's kind of psychotic. It's a roller coaster.
But these issues are why I just don't care or judge any amp based on a clip. I've bought amps base on clips only to return them quickly; while other amps I've bought based on rep and damn glad I did.
The other day I finally got what I think is a solid recorded tone that's straight KRG. Or, my ears might just be burnt out. LOL it was about 110 dB in the room which is where the amp starts to wake up. I just have guitar & vocals tracked on the song so far but I can post a clip if anyone wants to hear it.
Tiger1016":3n7ita7a said:Late to the party here, but want to raise this thread from the dead.
Blake we could sure use some more videos of this KG. Actually, another shootout of your incredible collection would be awesome. I personally would love to see the IIC+ DRG, IIC+ KG, Wizard, and Recto Multi Watt looped with the same riff like you did in your previous comparison.
BTW based on your 90s-2000s riffs, which are totally at home for me, I was a bit surprised to see you with a multi watt over a TOV (simply because of its use by a lot of bands you have covered). I am illogically hoping to see someone do a shoot out of these two. I had always though of the TOV being the best sounding DR for my preferences, but the new multi watts are sounding really good. GJgo's comparo of his triple to the Mk V Extreme was interesting and made sense because it did seem to me like Mesa was trying to push the rectos in the Mark direction with this last iteration, which is the right direction for me.
Bxlxaxkxe":1qa5tra7 said:This MW Recto kinda just happened one day locally - I wasn't really looking for one but the price was right so I jumped. Glad I did. It's been a great amp, especially live. Not a huge fan of the way Marks sound live/in the mix. A little too middy, not as open sounding as a traditional amplifier that doesn't need EQ to balance out a super mid heavy preamp section - but that's just me.
Bxlxaxkxe":36wytb7h said:Yo. That would be a cool video...IIC+ vs Recto vs Wizard. I will make it happen eventually.
I've had 2 TOVs in the past, so I'm definitely a fan of them.
Another cool amp that I've been digging lately is the Triple Crown 100. That's a fun one.
psychodave":18tn4sbd said:I listened to the clip and I’m just not hearing that big massive bounce the coliseum is know for. I do know Boogie Mark series amps are difficult to record. That said, the tone was obviously cool.