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You rock Jim'


So I'm rolling out to Spain here in a few hours, my assistant Nicole is getting all the pickups back from Erik Goehrisch this afternoon and will be shipping them back to you'all in a day or so. If you want tracking numbers or having any specific requests email her at: nicole@jameslugo.com

I will be on the internet some in Spain so I'll log on and say hi. What a great week. You guys made this happen, the support of Rig-Talk was unmatched. Thanks. Maybe we'll do another one when I get through my summer and 'American Idol'. Peace everyone...

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Damn, that was just so excellent man!! Fantastic work......... :rock:

Just because of this, I've got Wade winding me a set of 2nd Degree Black Belts for my VOS Les Paul!!

Again great job and thanks so much for putting in the effort. :thumbsup:


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Damn, that was just so excellent man!! Fantastic work......... :rock:

Just because of this, I've got Wade winding me a set of 2nd Degree Black Belts for my VOS Les Paul!!

Again great job and thanks so much for putting in the effort. :thumbsup:


Just listened through, the 2nd Degree is incredible. The clarity is stunning. Not sure which guitar I'm putting it in a I have another Paul and a 335... :confused:

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James,Enjoy the Honeymoon my man!!!!!!!Go have some fun :rock:

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Yes ..... best wishes for you and yours James. Have a great time.

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Got the first orders for CD's they are going out asap. The CD's are the way o listen to this, the CD's will blow away! Here's the disc orders:

Disc 1

1. Motor City - 2nd Degree Black Belt
2. Motor City - Afwayu
3. Holmes - H455
4. ThroBak - SLE 101 Plus Ltd
5. Suhr- Aldrich
6. Rio Grande - BBQ
7. Gibson - BurstBucker Pro
8. Walker - El Presidente
9. WCR - Godwood
10. WB - Habenero
11. WB - Hell

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1. WCR - Iron Man
2. Wolfetone - Marshallhead
3. Motor City - Prototype 30k
4. Motor City - Torque
5. Patrick Nowlan
6. Seymour Duncan - Pearly Gates
7. PMP - SAR
8. Bareknuckles - Rebel Yell
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10. WB - Fire
11. WCR - Darkburst
12. Zhangbucker - Pagey 2

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Thanks guys I'm sitting hear my guitars and still haven't packed, I'm crazy! We've been a/bing the Scumback and Bogner cab. The Scumback is so much better. The Bogner has a piercing quality in the top end that kind of hurts your ears. Scumback cabs rule!

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Well all the guitars came back and everything sounded great but my Goldtop was bugging me, there was a hi end squealy sound you could hear in the E and B string when playing chords, it kind of dominated the sound, I switched the pickup out for the Motor City 2nd Degree Black Belt and viola. Amazing. Huge and open. Open and top endy but no over powering squawk. The guitar sounds 10 feet tall. Wade you rock!

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Whoa step back, evil saturation. Made me actually laugh when I first played it. Heavier then the Black. Love this pickup, similar to the WB Habenero, but my engineer put the Habenero in his Goldtop yesterday so I figured I go with something else but they sound really close, same family.

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What a great job! Thanks !!

They all sound good. Of the clips, I like the MCP 2nd degree blackbelt best. I'm surprised I don't prefer a hotter PUP, I think that 2nd ' BB is like an overwound PAF, 9 or 10k?? ..live and learn... it sounds great at all drive levels ... Thanks again James!

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What a great job! Thanks !!

They all sound good. Of the clips, I like the MCP 2nd degree blackbelt best. I'm surprised I don't prefer a hotter PUP, I think that 2nd ' BB is like an overwound PAF, 9 or 10k?? ..live and learn... it sounds great at all drive levels ... Thanks again James!


Bobo, I am getting a set of these for my LP. Wade said it's around 8.5K. He also said it will do pretty much everything from blues to high gain. Here's a few quotes from his e-mail. I don't think he'd mind me sharing:

"Thanks man. The Secind Degree is killer for everything really. Specs are 8.5k Amer. Alnico 5 magnets, Plain Enamel wire- All custom Metal componients ( all the pickups are actually)."

"The second degree is just a badass really- It can handle the really high gain with ease and the blues."

I've asked him what to expect as to the difference from the current Burstbuckers 1&2 in my VOS to the Black Belt. I haven't heard back. I'm giving him a call today though. I'm pumped to try them out. I also loved the tone on that clip.


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What a great job! Thanks !!

They all sound good. Of the clips, I like the MCP 2nd degree blackbelt best. I'm surprised I don't prefer a hotter PUP, I think that 2nd ' BB is like an overwound PAF, 9 or 10k?? ..live and learn... it sounds great at all drive levels ... Thanks again James!


Bobo, I am getting a set of these for my LP. Wade said it's around 8.5K. He also said it will do pretty much everything from blues to high gain. Here's a few quotes from his e-mail. I don't think he'd mind me sharing:

"Thanks man. The Secind Degree is killer for everything really. Specs are 8.5k Amer. Alnico 5 magnets, Plain Enamel wire- All custom Metal componients ( all the pickups are actually)."

"The second degree is just a badass really- It can handle the really high gain with ease and the blues."

I've asked him what to expect as to the difference from the current Burstbuckers 1&2 in my VOS to the Black Belt. I haven't heard back. I'm giving him a call today though. I'm pumped to try them out. I also loved the tone on that clip.

:D I've only heard the clips from the 2nd Degrees but that was enough,as I put the Blissbuckers in my VOS and I now judge everything by this,sucks but true :lol: :LOL:

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Hey guys I'm in Barcelona and just got an email from my engineer in LA and he said the Goldtop with the 2nd Degree Black Belt is ridiculous. He's also buying Scumback speakers.

Rock on! :rock:

Spain is awesome.

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James Lugo wrote:
Hey guys I'm in Barcelona and just got an email from my engineer in LA and he said the Goldtop with the 2nd Degree Black Belt is ridiculous. He's also buying Scumback speakers.

Rock on! :rock:

Spain is awesome.


:rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: Scumbacks do rock as well....... :thumbsup:


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Hey guys I'm in Barcelona and just got an email from my engineer in LA and he said the Goldtop with the 2nd Degree Black Belt is ridiculous. He's also buying Scumback speakers.

Rock on! :rock:

Spain is awesome.

:rock: Now go enjoy your new wife :thumbsup:

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Been watching this the entire time but not posted until now. Kudos to all the folks who made it happen, excellent work indeed. I am about to listen to the clips but will most likely buy the CD as well.

Enjoy Spain, James. I spent 3 weeks on tour there last year and had a blast. :thumbsup:

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Great job James. Interestingly, I think the clip of my BBQ sounded pretty spot on to what I was hearing. The Aldrich's clips sounded a bit different, hard to put my finger on it though.

After the clips, I am getting a Motor city Afwayu and going to give that a shot. The Motor City Black Belt sounds great too, I think I could have gone either way, but I am hoping the Afwayu splits better and may be a touch more versatile.

Judging by the responses, most people seem to love the WCR Godwood, but I just hear this bit of fizz that I don't care for for the distorted Rhythm. I really liked it for the clean and leads though...

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I hope this shootout help you guys out. Pickup selection can be crazy.

We're leaving Barcelona tonight and taking a train south to Marbella. :rock:

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Well, have been watching this topic nearly from its beggining on as a quite lurker.

But now I want to express a Huge Thank You to James, that he'd made this PUP shootout happen at all :rock:
Big Thanks also to all those, who've helped to this unrivaled event, have sent their PU's, aso.

My congrats for your great and very consistent playing, James! :thumbsup:

My congrats to Jim Seagull for this awesome sounding cab/speakers! Must have some speakers from you soon, Jim! Maybe even such a complete cab ;) Unfortunately shipping a cab to Germany isn't a bargain :aww:

And last but not least my congrats to Dave Friedman for his incredible Marshall mods - especially the Hairy Brown Eye mod simply is overwhelming :rock:

James, enjoy your holidays, enjoy Spain and have a great time there!
I'll be there for a week in June - and I need it desperately :D

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i love my motor city 2nd degree blackbelt,best paf pickup i have had....

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My congrats to Jim Seagull for this awesome sounding cab/speakers! Must have some speakers from you soon, Jim! Maybe even such a complete cab ;) Unfortunately shipping a cab to Germany isn't a bargain :aww:


Jamison Livingston Seagull...that's me. :D

Hey, you're close. It's actually Jim Seavall, but I've been called worse, Larry (aka novosibir). LOL

Supplying that cab was my pleasure, although it's going to make me work a bunch harder. I've gotten three orders for them since it was used in that shootout, two from James Lugo (one's for his buddy), and one yesterday.

It's tough to get lazy and be my usual bum self when people order stuff like cabs. :doh:

Thanks for the kind words on the cab/speakers, though. I appreciate it very much. Sorry shipping to Germany, and EU countries is so ridiculous. It's around $4-500 USD if I'm not mistaken, per cab.

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My congrats to Jim Seagull for this awesome sounding cab/speakers! Must have some speakers from you soon, Jim! Maybe even such a complete cab ;) Unfortunately shipping a cab to Germany isn't a bargain :aww:


Jamison Livingston Seagull...that's me. :D

Hey, you're close. It's actually Jim Seavall, but I've been called worse, Larry (aka novosibir). LOL

Supplying that cab was my pleasure, although it's going to make me work a bunch harder. I've gotten three orders for them since it was used in that shootout, two from James Lugo (one's for his buddy), and one yesterday.

It's tough to get lazy and be my usual bum self when people order stuff like cabs. :doh:

Thanks for the kind words on the cab/speakers, though. I appreciate it very much. Sorry shipping to Germany, and EU countries is so ridiculous. It's around $4-500 USD if I'm not mistaken, per cab.


I'm glad it's goin' good Jim. The cab is ultimate tone machine.

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Jamison Livingston Seagull...that's me. :D

Hey, you're close. It's actually Jim Seavall, but I've been called worse, Larry (aka novosibir). LOL

Must have been the appearance and the sound of your cab, what made me so baffled, that I couldn't recall your last name correctly :confused:

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After the clips, I am getting a Motor city Afwayu and going to give that a shot. The Motor City Black Belt sounds great too, I think I could have gone either way, but I am hoping the Afwayu splits better and may be a touch more versatile.


As I recall from a chat with Wade, the Afwayu was designed and wound for splitting. I can attest to the fact that it splits very well! I was previously splitting the coils on a SD screamin demon, and it sounded like poo when it was split. After installing the Afwayu, the splitter switch on my ESP now acts like a "more" switch. The character, clarity etc. of the pickup is preserved in single-coil mode, but roll off the volume for a really nice clean. Switch to both coils and there is simply "more".

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1st off, HUGE THANKS to those involved pulling this mammoth effort off!

2nd off, for all the years I've spent on these boards, mainly here and HC in the past, this is one of the coolest things I've ever seen done! :rock: :rock: :rock:

I "use" similar tones to what you had going there across the board, and currently have a BBQ in my Paul I've been thinking about swapping out. I can hear things in your BBQ clip that I hear in mine, that I am not a fan of, so the BBQ is coming out finally! Not that it's a bad pup, but not what I want in the Paul anymore.

Right now I am digging the 2nd degree blackbelt and the Marshallhead the most, leaning a bit towards the blackbelt.


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The Afwayu in the shootout was sent in by a rig-talk member so when it arrived we put it in my black Paul that had an Aldrich in it and it sounded way better then the Aldrich IMO, more sparkle, snap and aliveness. Great pickup.

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1st off, HUGE THANKS to those involved pulling this mammoth effort off!

2nd off, for all the years I've spent on these boards, mainly here and HC in the past, this is one of the coolest things I've ever seen done! :rock: :rock: :rock:

I "use" similar tones to what you had going there across the board, and currently have a BBQ in my Paul I've been thinking about swapping out. I can hear things in your BBQ clip that I hear in mine, that I am not a fan of, so the BBQ is coming out finally! Not that it's a bad pup, but not what I want in the Paul anymore.

Right now I am digging the 2nd degree blackbelt and the Marshallhead the most, leaning a bit towards the blackbelt.


Thanks man.

I really liked the way the BBQ broke up but the tone seemed a bit average. The 2nd Degree and Marshallhead both were better IMO.

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I'm just re-posting this, we've had a lot of people order this, I think they are going out tomorrow.

I have an idea. What I'm going to offer is for $10 I will ship CD's with all 23 tracks as 16 bit AIFF's to anywhere in the US and $15 overseas. I think ultimately it's better to have the tracks and import them into iTunes, Protools, Garage Band etc.... so you can swap back and forth from pickup to pickup in the same section of the song. If you do that you can hear a big difference. So I am leaving for Spain tomorrow night for 10 days but my assistant can make this happen. So if you want some discs email:

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She will take care of it, you can mail a check or paypal account: james@jameslugo.com

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The Afwayu in the shootout was sent in by a rig-talk member so when it arrived we put it in my black Paul that had an Aldrich in it and it sounded way better then the Aldrich IMO, more sparkle, snap and aliveness. Great pickup.


Good to know, that exact Afwayu is coming my way, I bought it off Doug (who sent it in to you for the shootout). I have an Aldrich in 2 of my LP's and a BBQ in my LP studio. This will be going in the LP studio. I like the Aldrich's better than the BBQ in general, so it will be cool if the Afwayu is better than the Aldrich. What did you think comparing the BBQ and the Aldrich?

I hope the Afwayu gold cover comes off easily so I can try it in the other LP's without it looking funky....

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The Afwayu in the shootout was sent in by a rig-talk member so when it arrived we put it in my black Paul that had an Aldrich in it and it sounded way better then the Aldrich IMO, more sparkle, snap and aliveness. Great pickup.


Good to know, that exact Afwayu is coming my way, I bought it off Doug (who sent it in to you for the shootout). I have an Aldrich in 2 of my LP's and a BBQ in my LP studio. This will be going in the LP studio. I like the Aldrich's better than the BBQ in general, so it will be cool if the Afwayu is better than the Aldrich. What did you think comparing the BBQ and the Aldrich?

I hope the Afwayu gold cover comes off easily so I can try it in the other LP's without it looking funky....


I liked the BBQ, we found the Aldrich lifeless in the shootout. Maybe yours is a better one.

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The Afwayu in the shootout was sent in by a rig-talk member so when it arrived we put it in my black Paul that had an Aldrich in it and it sounded way better then the Aldrich IMO, more sparkle, snap and aliveness. Great pickup.


Good to know, that exact Afwayu is coming my way, I bought it off Doug (who sent it in to you for the shootout). I have an Aldrich in 2 of my LP's and a BBQ in my LP studio. This will be going in the LP studio. I like the Aldrich's better than the BBQ in general, so it will be cool if the Afwayu is better than the Aldrich. What did you think comparing the BBQ and the Aldrich?

I hope the Afwayu gold cover comes off easily so I can try it in the other LP's without it looking funky....


I liked the BBQ, we found the Aldrich lifeless in the shootout. Maybe yours is a better one.

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Interesting, I did notice that the Aldrich clips did not sound like the Aldrich's in my Les Paul, I couldn't put my finger on the exact differences. Maybe there is some significant variation in the Aldrich pickups, who knows.

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There can be variations in magnets. They can change when exposed to different things.
All physical object have some variations in them.

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They can change when exposed to different things.

Yep!

Keep your pickups away from strong magnetic fields like speaker magnets and especially do go with the guitar closer than 2-3 feet to the PT of your amp (when in use), because the magnetic stray field around the PT weakens the magnets in the pickups very quickly ;)

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Got the 2nd degree Black Belts officially on the way!!! Wooooot!! :rock: :rock: :rock:


That is great, you're gonna love it. I only had a day with it in my Goldtop before I left but the tone was massive and my engineer called me and said it sounded great.

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Got the 2nd degree Black Belts officially on the way!!! Wooooot!! :rock: :rock: :rock:

Mine are gonna sound better tho :lol: :LOL: Congrats Kev,you''ll love them in that VOS Brother :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock:

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This has turned into the pickup thread of the century. :rock:

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What a great job! Thanks !!

They all sound good. Of the clips, I like the MCP 2nd degree blackbelt best. I'm surprised I don't prefer a hotter PUP, I think that 2nd ' BB is like an overwound PAF, 9 or 10k?? ..live and learn... it sounds great at all drive levels ... Thanks again James!


Bobo, I am getting a set of these for my LP. Wade said it's around 8.5K. He also said it will do pretty much everything from blues to high gain. Here's a few quotes from his e-mail. I don't think he'd mind me sharing:

"Thanks man. The Secind Degree is killer for everything really. Specs are 8.5k Amer. Alnico 5 magnets, Plain Enamel wire- All custom Metal componients ( all the pickups are actually).".........
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BD, please let me(us) know how you like the neck PUP. I'm ready to pul the trigger on the bridge position 2nd degree BB, but unsure of the neck. I have Duncan JB/'59 combo in my '73 LP custom now. I've not tried allot of neck pups, but right now I prefer the Duncan Alinico II over the Duncan '59 neck. I once tried a Duncan Jazz neck, and hated it.

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Wow!, just wanted to say thanks for all the effort, this is what R-T is all about :rock: :rock: BTW, I love the songs, nice :thumbsup: This has been very useful info, I ended up liking some I had not even considered in the past. Did not know a 30k pup even existed. Thanks again guys for all the work :D :D

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Cool man. I found it pretty eye opening. It also was an eye opener as to what I like, the chunkier, slightly darker pups I think. I found the Holmes to bright and jangley and on many more vintage sites some people loved the Holmes. Apples and oranges.

At the end of the day I am so glad I did it, it cost me a small fortune but it was fun, I met a lot of cool people and now I know for myself. I have 4 Pauls and went for the 4 pickups that best suited my needs:

WCR - Godwood
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With those 4 pickups I can do anything. The Godwood being the most traditional for me, sounding perfect in my Sunburst and the Rebel Yell being the heaviest. The Fire is great for heavy rock, more string sound then the Rebel Yell but the Rebel Yell saturates heavier and grinds harder. The 2nd Degree sits between the Godwood and the Fire and is probably the biggest sounding pup of all. I can't wait to layer them and watch my clients jaws hit the ground. :rock: :rock: :rock:

I think at the end of the day you can make great music with any of them, it's just a matter of taste and what your trip is, I tried to cover as much ground in 4 minutes that I could.

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I believe the way you play and how your whole rig is set up and of course taste all are factors
in the Apple and Oranges thing.

I mean I use different kinds of picks depending on the stringed instrument and style I am playing.
It is easy for me to see how many people have different taste.

I do not think to many people knew there was a 30k pickup out there.
That sounds crazy.

I know for me this whole thing has caught my ears

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well, I've been converted. I really like both the WCR's as well as the Black Belt. Couldn't decide so I look at other factors. ..price! Black Belt wins by $55 so that makes it easy for me. Black Belt it is.

Now then, they're going in my 2000 LP studio lite. Do you all think I really need to spend the dough to upgrade my wiring or is what's in there just fine as is?

Secondly the Black Belt as a set, I know you didn't shoot out neck pups here but did you get a chance to mess with any? If I like the Black Belt in the bridge will the neck be just as bad ass? ...is it calibrated slightly different? I'm looking for something really tubey and woody. any thoughts on this is appreciated. I don't know a whole lot about wiring and all that, but I know when I hear good tone!

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All of Wades neck pickups really shine and are never muddy and very clear and round. Also make sure you order a 2nd degree Black belt and not just a Blackbelt. A regular Blackbelt has a more vintage sound to it. The 2nd is hotter and has a alnico 5 mag. Both are great though.

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BD, please let me(us) know how you like the neck PUP. I'm ready to pul the trigger on the bridge position 2nd degree BB, but unsure of the neck. I have Duncan JB/'59 combo in my '73 LP custom now. I've not tried allot of neck pups, but right now I prefer the Duncan Alinico II over the Duncan '59 neck. I once tried a Duncan Jazz neck, and hated it.


Will do man, but I really have full confidence in Wade's stuff. I have a set of his Torque models in my Standard and the neck pickup is sick! Amazing thing about it is the clarity.

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All of Wades neck pickups really shine and are never muddy and very clear and round. Also make sure you order a 2nd degree Black belt and not just a Blackbelt. A regular Blackbelt has a more vintage sound to it. The 2nd is hotter and has a alnico 5 mag. Both are great though.

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BD, please let me(us) know how you like the neck PUP. I'm ready to pul the trigger on the bridge position 2nd degree BB, but unsure of the neck. I have Duncan JB/'59 combo in my '73 LP custom now. I've not tried allot of neck pups, but right now I prefer the Duncan Alinico II over the Duncan '59 neck. I once tried a Duncan Jazz neck, and hated it.


Will do man, but I really have full confidence in Wade's stuff. I have a set of his Torque models in my Standard and the neck pickup is sick! Amazing thing about it is the clarity.

But, believe me, you'll hear about these pickups the minute I get them installed!!


Yep, +1 to this.

Ordering the neck pickup as well is a very safe bet for all of the reasons mentioned here already. I've got a calibrated set of 2nd Deg BlackBelts in a LesPaul and the neck pickup is AMAZING! The improvement in clarity over the Duncan will be very significant. And if you don't like the neck pickup (or the bridge for that matter) Wade does offer a 14 day return policy.

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