jazzyjoepass
New member
Hi, I've owned a Two Notes Torpedo Live for about a year. I am the second owner and I bought this off another owner for half the price.
I have some negative and positive feedback and some suggestions to Two Notes. I hope you will take this constructively and take the feedback to improve the product. I really think there's a lot of potential here but Two Notes missed the mark somewhere on certain aspects.
Negative comments
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I have to say when I first used the Torpedo, I could never bond with the Torpedo and had left it sitting on the shelf for about a year or so.
Scrolling through the the presets, I found cabinet simulations pretty unusable.
The cabinet tones are unlike what I hear of the real thing in person and have a tendency to sound harsh, thin and most of all, stiff.
The tone reminded me of getting a DI direct output from a tube amp to the mixer without a cabinet simulation or load box.
If I disregard the similarity between the real thing and the Torpedo for the time being and concentrated on just getting a usable sound, I'd have to do a little bit of tweaking on the parameters on the Torpedo. I realise this is the case and most of the IRs required some EQ and adjustments of other parameters like distance, type of mics, mic'ing position, etc.
If I needed some tutorial guide on tweaking the cab simulation or video demo, I was unable to find any relevant, because most of the demos are based around heavy metal tones. I have yet to watch a video preview that doesn't use heavily tweaked tones, but straight dry un-EQ'ed tones and not in a mix situation. I prefer to audition sounds dry because that gives me a good indication of tonal quality of the IR samples without the bells and whistles, background mixes, etc.
And because of the negative initial impressions, I think that might also be putting people off from exploring with the Two Notes Torpedo Live.
Most people would prefer to be able to select presets and use them on the fly and that gives them the confidence that there is potential with the product and encouraged them to further explore.
A lot of studio/soundcheck time can be cut if Two Notes designs good usable presets.
Positive comments
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I think Two Notes captured a niche market here. The difference that sets Two Notes apart from the other DSP modelling technologies (ie. Kemper, Fractal Axe FX, Line6, etc) is that your source is still a real analog amp (eg. valve vacuum tube amp).
So recently out of wanting to maximise my investment, I took the time out to explore the Torpedo further. Despite the same setbacks, I thought probably the IR samples was probably not good and I bought myself some 3rd party IRs. Interestingly enough, the Torpedo became so usable that I became so inclined to using it with my collection of guitar amps. The 3rd party IRs sounded warmer and didn't have that stiffness you get when you DI an amp to a mixer.
This whole deal turned me on to the Torpedo. I've found a new use for this product and it's opened up whole new avenue of possibilities for my setup with my valve amps.
Suggestions
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I think Two Notes forte is not in the creation of the cab IRs but the design of these DSP cab simulation/loadbox hosts, which you have done well.
Two Notes has the Torpedo Capture utility to create personal IRs, but I wonder if Two Notes can release a full fledged software to create .TSR cab simulation IRs that can access the other parameters (distance, mixing position, mic types, etc). I hope Two Notes are willing to release information on how to create them. This could create a bigger market for Two Notes products as then 3rd party designers would be able to create custom IRs for Two Notes and reinforce Two Notes position in the market.
Regards,
MIKE.
I have some negative and positive feedback and some suggestions to Two Notes. I hope you will take this constructively and take the feedback to improve the product. I really think there's a lot of potential here but Two Notes missed the mark somewhere on certain aspects.
Negative comments
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I have to say when I first used the Torpedo, I could never bond with the Torpedo and had left it sitting on the shelf for about a year or so.
Scrolling through the the presets, I found cabinet simulations pretty unusable.
The cabinet tones are unlike what I hear of the real thing in person and have a tendency to sound harsh, thin and most of all, stiff.
The tone reminded me of getting a DI direct output from a tube amp to the mixer without a cabinet simulation or load box.
If I disregard the similarity between the real thing and the Torpedo for the time being and concentrated on just getting a usable sound, I'd have to do a little bit of tweaking on the parameters on the Torpedo. I realise this is the case and most of the IRs required some EQ and adjustments of other parameters like distance, type of mics, mic'ing position, etc.
If I needed some tutorial guide on tweaking the cab simulation or video demo, I was unable to find any relevant, because most of the demos are based around heavy metal tones. I have yet to watch a video preview that doesn't use heavily tweaked tones, but straight dry un-EQ'ed tones and not in a mix situation. I prefer to audition sounds dry because that gives me a good indication of tonal quality of the IR samples without the bells and whistles, background mixes, etc.
And because of the negative initial impressions, I think that might also be putting people off from exploring with the Two Notes Torpedo Live.
Most people would prefer to be able to select presets and use them on the fly and that gives them the confidence that there is potential with the product and encouraged them to further explore.
A lot of studio/soundcheck time can be cut if Two Notes designs good usable presets.
Positive comments
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I think Two Notes captured a niche market here. The difference that sets Two Notes apart from the other DSP modelling technologies (ie. Kemper, Fractal Axe FX, Line6, etc) is that your source is still a real analog amp (eg. valve vacuum tube amp).
So recently out of wanting to maximise my investment, I took the time out to explore the Torpedo further. Despite the same setbacks, I thought probably the IR samples was probably not good and I bought myself some 3rd party IRs. Interestingly enough, the Torpedo became so usable that I became so inclined to using it with my collection of guitar amps. The 3rd party IRs sounded warmer and didn't have that stiffness you get when you DI an amp to a mixer.
This whole deal turned me on to the Torpedo. I've found a new use for this product and it's opened up whole new avenue of possibilities for my setup with my valve amps.
Suggestions
~~~~~~~~~~
I think Two Notes forte is not in the creation of the cab IRs but the design of these DSP cab simulation/loadbox hosts, which you have done well.
Two Notes has the Torpedo Capture utility to create personal IRs, but I wonder if Two Notes can release a full fledged software to create .TSR cab simulation IRs that can access the other parameters (distance, mixing position, mic types, etc). I hope Two Notes are willing to release information on how to create them. This could create a bigger market for Two Notes products as then 3rd party designers would be able to create custom IRs for Two Notes and reinforce Two Notes position in the market.
Regards,
MIKE.