The Dollar & Dem's Impact On It (Goldman Sachs)

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"Biden win could accelerate dollar's drop: Goldman Sachs. (A blue wave would accelerate the trend)

A 2020 election win by former Vice President Joe Biden could speed up the U.S. dollar’s decline, according to Goldman Sachs.

The U.S. dollar has slumped 2.75% this year versus a basket of currencies, according to Dow Jones Market Data, in the wake of unprecedented action taken by both the Federal Reserve and Congress to cushion the economy from its sharpest slowdown of the post-World War II era.

“We continue to see a good case for sustained dollar weakness, reflecting the greenback’s high valuation, deeply negative rates in the U.S., and a recovering global economy (which tends to weigh on the currency because of its unique global role),” wrote a Goldman Sachs team led by Zach Pandl, co-head of global foreign exchange, rates and emerging markets strategy. “A Democrat sweep in the US elections could likely accelerate this trend.”

Biden currently holds a 6.5-point lead in the national polls, according to RealClear Politics, although that margin is at a tighter 3.5 points in key battleground states. The race for control of the Senate is too close to call.

How the markets respond to the election will be determined by three factors: the stance of fiscal policy and the size of the budget deficit, the tax and regulatory environment and foreign policy, according to Pandl.

A so-called blue wave if Biden wins the White House and Democrats picked up a net three seats in the Senate while maintaining control of the House of Representatives would result in “easier fiscal policy and a larger budget deficit” than any of the other outcomes, the Goldman team said.

Biden has proposed reversing at least some of President Trump’s corporate tax cuts, which could weigh on U.S. gross domestic product and make U.S. stocks less attractive to international investors. Goldman research suggests both could impact future foreign exchange returns.

The former vice president has also promised a bevy of regulatory changes to sectors including technology and energy, which Goldman believes would have a similar impact.

Another round of fiscal stimulus at a time when the Federal Reserve has promised to keep interest rates low would put further pressure on the dollar, the firm said.

Biden’s multilateral approach to trade would imply lower trade war risks and reduce risk premiums in currencies like the Chinese yuan, which Goldman sees strengthening to 6.50 per dollar, from 6.80, amid broad weakness in the greenback.

“Other election outcomes would imply less Dollar weakness,” Pandl wrote.

Marc Chandler, chief market strategist at the trading firm Bannockburn Global Forex, agrees the dollar is headed lower no matter who wins the election.

He believes the dollar is just starting a long-term downtrend and that it will approach its 2008 low of 1.60 per euro."
 
if everything follows previous cycles I will increase my 401 by quite a bit. I moved everything to a "safe" fund hoping to see the market drop. I sold out of my high risk fund awhile back in preparation. Hopefully the week before the election, the bottom has dropped out of the risk fund and I will buy 100% risk fund shares at a greatly lower rate than what I sold them for. Trump wins and boom....market rallies. Buy low....sell high. It worked for me doing the covid scare when the market was all sketchy. Lot of my peeps lost big and I actually was able to increase my holdings around 15-20%.
 
JackBootedThug":2wcjj9gc said:
if everything follows previous cycles I will increase my 401 by quite a bit. I moved everything to a "safe" fund hoping to see the market drop. I sold out of my high risk fund awhile back in preparation. Hopefully the week before the election, the bottom has dropped out of the risk fund and I will buy 100% risk fund shares at a greatly lower rate than what I sold them for. Trump wins and boom....market rallies. Buy low....sell high. It worked for me doing the covid scare when the market was all sketchy. Lot of my peeps lost big and I actually was able to increase my holdings around 15-20%.

This is exactly how you do it. :thumbsup:
 
JackBootedThug":3oozwddb said:
if everything follows previous cycles I will increase my 401 by quite a bit. I moved everything to a "safe" fund hoping to see the market drop. I sold out of my high risk fund awhile back in preparation. Hopefully the week before the election, the bottom has dropped out of the risk fund and I will buy 100% risk fund shares at a greatly lower rate than what I sold them for. Trump wins and boom....market rallies. Buy low....sell high. It worked for me doing the covid scare when the market was all sketchy. Lot of my peeps lost big and I actually was able to increase my holdings around 15-20%.

So you are betting your 401(k) on Trump winning?

Even if Trump ultimately wins, your assumption "if everything follows previous cycles" and "hopefully before the election the bottom has dropped" is problematic. Absent a Trump blowout, which there is zero data to indicate, it will likely be months before we know the election result. A contested election is a recipe for the market getting shellacked post election day. You'll actually be buying high the week before.
 
JackTripper":2n7pnaiy said:
JackBootedThug":2n7pnaiy said:
if everything follows previous cycles I will increase my 401 by quite a bit. I moved everything to a "safe" fund hoping to see the market drop. I sold out of my high risk fund awhile back in preparation. Hopefully the week before the election, the bottom has dropped out of the risk fund and I will buy 100% risk fund shares at a greatly lower rate than what I sold them for. Trump wins and boom....market rallies. Buy low....sell high. It worked for me doing the covid scare when the market was all sketchy. Lot of my peeps lost big and I actually was able to increase my holdings around 15-20%.

So you are betting your 401(k) on Trump winning?

Even if Trump ultimately wins, your assumption "if everything follows previous cycles" and "hopefully before the election the bottom has dropped" is problematic. Absent a Trump blowout, which there is zero data to indicate, it will likely be months before we know the election result. A contested election is a recipe for the market getting shellacked post election day. You'll actually be buying high the week before.

Your picture 'may' happen however, what 'may' happen is that the numbers gathered on Nov 3rd are so overwhelming for Trump that it will be known on the 3rd & not weeks later.

With that said, I fully agree UNCERTAINTY drives markets down around the globe as it's all based on 'notional' values until actually sold.
 
JackTripper":2fj3l89t said:
JackBootedThug":2fj3l89t said:
if everything follows previous cycles I will increase my 401 by quite a bit. I moved everything to a "safe" fund hoping to see the market drop. I sold out of my high risk fund awhile back in preparation. Hopefully the week before the election, the bottom has dropped out of the risk fund and I will buy 100% risk fund shares at a greatly lower rate than what I sold them for. Trump wins and boom....market rallies. Buy low....sell high. It worked for me doing the covid scare when the market was all sketchy. Lot of my peeps lost big and I actually was able to increase my holdings around 15-20%.

So you are betting your 401(k) on Trump winning?

Even if Trump ultimately wins, your assumption "if everything follows previous cycles" and "hopefully before the election the bottom has dropped" is problematic. Absent a Trump blowout, which there is zero data to indicate, it will likely be months before we know the election result. A contested election is a recipe for the market getting shellacked post election day. You'll actually be buying high the week before.

no....way to much to type. i'm ready for every eventuality.
 
WGAF":3luysicc said:
JackTripper":3luysicc said:
JackBootedThug":3luysicc said:
if everything follows previous cycles I will increase my 401 by quite a bit. I moved everything to a "safe" fund hoping to see the market drop. I sold out of my high risk fund awhile back in preparation. Hopefully the week before the election, the bottom has dropped out of the risk fund and I will buy 100% risk fund shares at a greatly lower rate than what I sold them for. Trump wins and boom....market rallies. Buy low....sell high. It worked for me doing the covid scare when the market was all sketchy. Lot of my peeps lost big and I actually was able to increase my holdings around 15-20%.

So you are betting your 401(k) on Trump winning?

Even if Trump ultimately wins, your assumption "if everything follows previous cycles" and "hopefully before the election the bottom has dropped" is problematic. Absent a Trump blowout, which there is zero data to indicate, it will likely be months before we know the election result. A contested election is a recipe for the market getting shellacked post election day. You'll actually be buying high the week before.

Your picture 'may' happen however, what 'may' happen is that the numbers gathered on Nov 3rd are so overwhelming for Trump that it will be known on the 3rd & not weeks later.

With that said, I fully agree UNCERTAINTY drives markets down around the globe as it's all based on 'notional' values until actually sold.

As I said, absent a Trump blowout. And there is zero data to indicate this scenario, other than wishful thinking and emotion. But if someone wants to emotively invest, that's their prerogative.
 
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