DSL20HR

Alerted to this thread by an online acquaintance that knows I've been kicking around a DSL20 for the past year or so. Thought I'd throw my worthless opinion in.
BrokenFusion":oceh2xep said:
I had one. Sounded like a can of bees, super compressed. Sent it back the next day.
Right out of the box, yes, this is absolutely true. They give them a TERRIBLE tube compliment for the circuit at the factory. After some experimenting I'd say I've managed to get some OK tones out of one. Mines the combo I stuck a greenback into so I can pack it over to my bass playin' buddy's house for jams, but the recordings I have are all through a Mesa widebody 1x12 with a C90.

Downtuned with bass (Nazgul/Sentient pickups:)
https://app.box.com/s/6j095xcjqkik4iwv0x3y7vps71w1vhi1

https://app.box.com/s/ph4j9z8fwkpkelfxr0yncve536301dni

And something I'm currently working on in standard E, no bass yet (GFS Redactive Gold Pickups:)
https://app.box.com/s/exmjqodilp8kh9sctf0d6i40wourhm3n

That last one gives you a great idea of how crunchy and "real" the damn little thing can sound. The secret was sticking a much, MUCH lower gain tube in V1. I ended up with a JJ 5751 there, and two Sovtek 12AX7WA tubes in V2 and V3. The stock tubes give you some really nasally, nasty and super compressed can-o-bees tones unless you keep the gain on both channels way below noon. After the change over I can run the green channel around noon and still be fairly clean with a little crunch if I really dig in. Cranked up it'd make a great rock tone and can be boosted into 80s metal territory. Red sounds tremendous up to noon, then starts to saturate into lead territory depending on your pickups. That last clip is gain around 1 o'clock on the red channel with no boost, but active pickups. No post EQ on it either.

Throught a 4x12 it might surprise you. Is it a 100 Watt DSL? No. A 100 Watt cranked up can get the neighbors to call the cops on you. The 20 can get them annoyed. Especially through a 4x12. But the really surprising thing is how good it sounds turned down. It's still a Marshall though, and will sound better cranked up.

If you're just looking for a practice amp for good tones at bedroom/tv volumes? It's a good fit. However, it's also able to handle itself well in a recording situation, or in a band setting if you get to mic it up. I'm kinda in love with the stupid little thing, but YMMV. Hope the clips at least give you something to chew on.
 
nightflameauto":y2vkm4ku said:
Alerted to this thread by an online acquaintance that knows I've been kicking around a DSL20 for the past year or so. Thought I'd throw my worthless opinion in.
BrokenFusion":y2vkm4ku said:
I had one. Sounded like a can of bees, super compressed. Sent it back the next day.
Right out of the box, yes, this is absolutely true. They give them a TERRIBLE tube compliment for the circuit at the factory. After some experimenting I'd say I've managed to get some OK tones out of one. Mines the combo I stuck a greenback into so I can pack it over to my bass playin' buddy's house for jams, but the recordings I have are all through a Mesa widebody 1x12 with a C90.

Downtuned with bass (Nazgul/Sentient pickups:)
https://app.box.com/s/6j095xcjqkik4iwv0x3y7vps71w1vhi1

https://app.box.com/s/ph4j9z8fwkpkelfxr0yncve536301dni

And something I'm currently working on in standard E, no bass yet (GFS Redactive Gold Pickups:)
https://app.box.com/s/exmjqodilp8kh9sctf0d6i40wourhm3n

That last one gives you a great idea of how crunchy and "real" the damn little thing can sound. The secret was sticking a much, MUCH lower gain tube in V1. I ended up with a JJ 5751 there, and two Sovtek 12AX7WA tubes in V2 and V3. The stock tubes give you some really nasally, nasty and super compressed can-o-bees tones unless you keep the gain on both channels way below noon. After the change over I can run the green channel around noon and still be fairly clean with a little crunch if I really dig in. Cranked up it'd make a great rock tone and can be boosted into 80s metal territory. Red sounds tremendous up to noon, then starts to saturate into lead territory depending on your pickups. That last clip is gain around 1 o'clock on the red channel with no boost, but active pickups. No post EQ on it either.

Throught a 4x12 it might surprise you. Is it a 100 Watt DSL? No. A 100 Watt cranked up can get the neighbors to call the cops on you. The 20 can get them annoyed. Especially through a 4x12. But the really surprising thing is how good it sounds turned down. It's still a Marshall though, and will sound better cranked up.

If you're just looking for a practice amp for good tones at bedroom/tv volumes? It's a good fit. However, it's also able to handle itself well in a recording situation, or in a band setting if you get to mic it up. I'm kinda in love with the stupid little thing, but YMMV. Hope the clips at least give you something to chew on.

Believe me, i'd love to just buy a 50watt 5153 & call it a day but would that be too much through a 4X12 Cab for Practice?

I've also considered the 5153 LBX as well.
 
nightflameauto":1ufjt6mm said:
Alerted to this thread by an online acquaintance that knows I've been kicking around a DSL20 for the past year or so. Thought I'd throw my worthless opinion in.
BrokenFusion":1ufjt6mm said:
I had one. Sounded like a can of bees, super compressed. Sent it back the next day.
Right out of the box, yes, this is absolutely true. They give them a TERRIBLE tube compliment for the circuit at the factory. After some experimenting I'd say I've managed to get some OK tones out of one. Mines the combo I stuck a greenback into so I can pack it over to my bass playin' buddy's house for jams, but the recordings I have are all through a Mesa widebody 1x12 with a C90.

Downtuned with bass (Nazgul/Sentient pickups:)
https://app.box.com/s/6j095xcjqkik4iwv0x3y7vps71w1vhi1

https://app.box.com/s/ph4j9z8fwkpkelfxr0yncve536301dni

And something I'm currently working on in standard E, no bass yet (GFS Redactive Gold Pickups:)
https://app.box.com/s/exmjqodilp8kh9sctf0d6i40wourhm3n

That last one gives you a great idea of how crunchy and "real" the damn little thing can sound. The secret was sticking a much, MUCH lower gain tube in V1. I ended up with a JJ 5751 there, and two Sovtek 12AX7WA tubes in V2 and V3. The stock tubes give you some really nasally, nasty and super compressed can-o-bees tones unless you keep the gain on both channels way below noon. After the change over I can run the green channel around noon and still be fairly clean with a little crunch if I really dig in. Cranked up it'd make a great rock tone and can be boosted into 80s metal territory. Red sounds tremendous up to noon, then starts to saturate into lead territory depending on your pickups. That last clip is gain around 1 o'clock on the red channel with no boost, but active pickups. No post EQ on it either.

Throught a 4x12 it might surprise you. Is it a 100 Watt DSL? No. A 100 Watt cranked up can get the neighbors to call the cops on you. The 20 can get them annoyed. Especially through a 4x12. But the really surprising thing is how good it sounds turned down. It's still a Marshall though, and will sound better cranked up.

If you're just looking for a practice amp for good tones at bedroom/tv volumes? It's a good fit. However, it's also able to handle itself well in a recording situation, or in a band setting if you get to mic it up. I'm kinda in love with the stupid little thing, but YMMV. Hope the clips at least give you something to chew on.

I wonder if it would be possible to put KT77's in it?
 
Detroit1973":2u7q3ge1 said:
I wonder if it would be possible to put KT77's in it?
It's been on my list to try, but I've been pretty happy with the EL34s it already has. If they ever head south I'll probably give it a shot.
 
nightflameauto":fegi88x9 said:
Alerted to this thread by an online acquaintance that knows I've been kicking around a DSL20 for the past year or so. Thought I'd throw my worthless opinion in.
BrokenFusion":fegi88x9 said:
I had one. Sounded like a can of bees, super compressed. Sent it back the next day.
Right out of the box, yes, this is absolutely true. They give them a TERRIBLE tube compliment for the circuit at the factory. After some experimenting I'd say I've managed to get some OK tones out of one. Mines the combo I stuck a greenback into so I can pack it over to my bass playin' buddy's house for jams, but the recordings I have are all through a Mesa widebody 1x12 with a C90.

Downtuned with bass (Nazgul/Sentient pickups:)
https://app.box.com/s/6j095xcjqkik4iwv0x3y7vps71w1vhi1

https://app.box.com/s/ph4j9z8fwkpkelfxr0yncve536301dni

And something I'm currently working on in standard E, no bass yet (GFS Redactive Gold Pickups:)
https://app.box.com/s/exmjqodilp8kh9sctf0d6i40wourhm3n

That last one gives you a great idea of how crunchy and "real" the damn little thing can sound. The secret was sticking a much, MUCH lower gain tube in V1. I ended up with a JJ 5751 there, and two Sovtek 12AX7WA tubes in V2 and V3. The stock tubes give you some really nasally, nasty and super compressed can-o-bees tones unless you keep the gain on both channels way below noon. After the change over I can run the green channel around noon and still be fairly clean with a little crunch if I really dig in. Cranked up it'd make a great rock tone and can be boosted into 80s metal territory. Red sounds tremendous up to noon, then starts to saturate into lead territory depending on your pickups. That last clip is gain around 1 o'clock on the red channel with no boost, but active pickups. No post EQ on it either.

Throught a 4x12 it might surprise you. Is it a 100 Watt DSL? No. A 100 Watt cranked up can get the neighbors to call the cops on you. The 20 can get them annoyed. Especially through a 4x12. But the really surprising thing is how good it sounds turned down. It's still a Marshall though, and will sound better cranked up.

If you're just looking for a practice amp for good tones at bedroom/tv volumes? It's a good fit. However, it's also able to handle itself well in a recording situation, or in a band setting if you get to mic it up. I'm kinda in love with the stupid little thing, but YMMV. Hope the clips at least give you something to chew on.

Listening to the E standard clip now and really digging it. I'll save the other two for when the party kicks in tonight.

:cheers2:
 
Tronald Dump":zelduvgi said:
nightflameauto":zelduvgi said:
Alerted to this thread by an online acquaintance that knows I've been kicking around a DSL20 for the past year or so. Thought I'd throw my worthless opinion in.
BrokenFusion":zelduvgi said:
I had one. Sounded like a can of bees, super compressed. Sent it back the next day.
Right out of the box, yes, this is absolutely true. They give them a TERRIBLE tube compliment for the circuit at the factory. After some experimenting I'd say I've managed to get some OK tones out of one. Mines the combo I stuck a greenback into so I can pack it over to my bass playin' buddy's house for jams, but the recordings I have are all through a Mesa widebody 1x12 with a C90.

Downtuned with bass (Nazgul/Sentient pickups:)
https://app.box.com/s/6j095xcjqkik4iwv0x3y7vps71w1vhi1

https://app.box.com/s/ph4j9z8fwkpkelfxr0yncve536301dni

And something I'm currently working on in standard E, no bass yet (GFS Redactive Gold Pickups:)
https://app.box.com/s/exmjqodilp8kh9sctf0d6i40wourhm3n

That last one gives you a great idea of how crunchy and "real" the damn little thing can sound. The secret was sticking a much, MUCH lower gain tube in V1. I ended up with a JJ 5751 there, and two Sovtek 12AX7WA tubes in V2 and V3. The stock tubes give you some really nasally, nasty and super compressed can-o-bees tones unless you keep the gain on both channels way below noon. After the change over I can run the green channel around noon and still be fairly clean with a little crunch if I really dig in. Cranked up it'd make a great rock tone and can be boosted into 80s metal territory. Red sounds tremendous up to noon, then starts to saturate into lead territory depending on your pickups. That last clip is gain around 1 o'clock on the red channel with no boost, but active pickups. No post EQ on it either.

Throught a 4x12 it might surprise you. Is it a 100 Watt DSL? No. A 100 Watt cranked up can get the neighbors to call the cops on you. The 20 can get them annoyed. Especially through a 4x12. But the really surprising thing is how good it sounds turned down. It's still a Marshall though, and will sound better cranked up.

If you're just looking for a practice amp for good tones at bedroom/tv volumes? It's a good fit. However, it's also able to handle itself well in a recording situation, or in a band setting if you get to mic it up. I'm kinda in love with the stupid little thing, but YMMV. Hope the clips at least give you something to chew on.

Listening to the E standard clip now and really digging it. I'll save the other two for when the party kicks in tonight.

:cheers2:

I love the E Standard Clip...especially since i only tune a whole step lower to D, it gives me an idea of what to expect.
 
Tronald Dump":1w0u0fow said:
I take it the internal speaker is bypassed when you plug in an extension cab?
Yeah, I just pull the plug on the internal speaker and use the 8 Ohm out to the external speaker.
 
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