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PostPosted: Sun, Apr 22, 2018 2:27pm 
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I have seen guys getting some bad ass tones out of the Suhr Bella with distortion pedals.

this is Shawn Tubbs (who is a bad ass player) playing the Revv pedal through it, and it sounds awesome through it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kxULnRUDNE&t=342s

I cant even remember the last time I used a clean amp with a distortion pedal. It was probably at least 20 years ago, playing a Mesa V Twin through a vintage Fender Twin and I got some pretty fat tones with that combo. I always loved the feel of a great Fender Twin.


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I'll always say NMV Marshall, 50 or 100. Don't have to fight the amp to get those mids...Marshall has em in spades.

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Maybe check out the Morgan SW50? Tosin Abasi is getting pretty phenomenal tone out of one as a pedal platform


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My favorites are the clean channel of a mark iic+ and a vintage vibrolux reverb (my favorite blackface amp). I also really like the 1st channel of my wizard mtl and sovtek mig-100h (low input) as pedal platforms

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Racerxrated wrote:
I'll always say NMV Marshall, 50 or 100. Don't have to fight the amp to get those mids...Marshall has em in spades.


this is the answer for me at least. I have a 4 holer JCM800 (1959). All my pedals sound the best, by far, through this rig. Mega, mega loud too.


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I found an Allen Old Flame amp to be a great pedal platform. Sounds killer with a VH4 pedal, Suhr riot, and OCD!!!


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Wampler makes one very comparable to the Bella...and before that, Brian Wampler himself always used the Port City Pearl.

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Anything that gets great cleans and sounds BIG. Don't mistake big for loud. It's usually those oversized trannies that make an amp sound big. As long as you have that and it gets great cleans, any decent pedal should go well with it.

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+1 for a NVM Marshall of your choice.


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Rick Lee wrote:
Anything that gets great cleans and sounds BIG. Don't mistake big for loud. It's usually those oversized trannies that make an amp sound big. As long as you have that and it gets great cleans, any decent pedal should go well with it.


That's good advice. I have looked at the Wampler before, that looks pretty cool. But it's hard to bring myself to go "clean" amp and only use pedals because I feel like I'm missing a stage even if it's just perceived, haha

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Not sure if it’s “best” but a 50w Bassman Head is an excellent choice.
NMV, minimal tone stack, oversized trannies. Get one with the channels in phase
so they can be coupled for a wonderful full sound that will compliment any box
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billboogie wrote:
Not sure if it’s “best” but a 50w Bassman Head is an excellent choice.
NMV, minimal tone stack, oversized trannies. Get one with the channels in phase
so they can be coupled for a wonderful full sound that will compliment any box
you put in front of it.

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I was going to say a Bassman. Mine took pedals really, really well.


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Maybe check out the Morgan SW50? Tosin Abasi is getting pretty phenomenal tone out of one as a pedal platform


I played an MVP23 and the cleans were unreal. I think Tosin is on to something with that SW50! Makes me wonder (i.e. worried) how much spare cash is it gonna take for me to start stockpiling boutique clean platform amps :scared:


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I'm biased, but a LG Jose, ala CCV channel 1 is super flexible. It can clean up plus 1 diode setting the let you get the mild breakup that pedals like Klons and Tube Screamer like to kick in the nuts.


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The Bella is a KILLER amp. The Friedman Buxom Betty is also a great choice.

That said though, I occasionally do some pedal demos for the retailer that I used to work for, and I wanted to pick something up that that was a good pedal platform...but was financially realistically within reach for most players. I ended up grabbing a used Fender Super-Sonic 60 head for $500, and it actually sounds great. It has a Bassman mode (no bright cap) and a Vibrolux mode (bright cap)....so it plays well with a variety of pedals. The dirty channel is really cool too. Not in a Marshally way, but it does a cool pseudo-Dumble thing. If you stumble across one, it's worth taking for a spin.

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Germino club 40 sounds tits with pedals driving it. I really like it with a Timmy pushing it.

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Fender amps.... Marshall type amps usually sound like crap compared with Fender when using a pedal based rig.

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It really depends on what u want to get from the pedal platform.
But dumble sss #002 or #005 style amps are one of the best pedal platforms.
It sounds like upgraded fender twin reverb and has rediculous dynamics.


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I think it depends on the pedals and tones you are targeting. I've used NMV Marshalls, BF Fenders, Trainwreck Rocket (Vox AC30) as clean only or Channel 1 of a Ceriatone King Kong or a Mark IV clean channel (which I like a tiny bit better than my IIC+ clean) and depending on the pedal they all were fantastic.

I typically use the Mark IV because it really likes a BE-OD so I get the great clean and high gain channels plus great rodded Marshall tones.

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A lot of good amps on here. Here’s a few not mentioned I’ve played. I always have one pedal platform amp in the stable.

Two Rock Studio Pro
Morgan SW (Watch Tosin Abasi’s Rig-rundown) I see it was mentioned but Tosin is getting some phenomenal tones country clean to brutal chug.
Bogner Barcelona is a sleeper.
Boogie MKIII

Milkman. Never played these but it’s like high end Fenders. Rave reviews.

Right now I’ve using a Two Rock SP35. And I’m more than impressed.
Suhr Bella or Two Rock SP gets my vote. Both have a loop and flexible clean tones. Mr Andy Wood is getting some righteous tones out if it and he was using a Herbert and a KSR before. Shaun Tubbs does a lot of pedal reviews with it too.


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tripstan wrote:

Suhr Bella or Two Rock SP gets my vote. Both have a loop and flexible clean tones.


I noticed in Tosin's rig rundown, he mentions that with a clean amp like his Morgan, he doesn't need a loop for his time-based effects. He says everything is fine going in front since that base channel remains clean. I'm wondering if it would still be beneficial to have a loop though (maybe for an eq pedal) although again, Tosin is using a paraEQ out front. Interesting concept that I'm not educated on!


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Loop is useful if your using preamp distortion. Poweramp distortion makes the loop pretty much useless. If the preamp and poweramp are clean no loop is needed.

Most people when they are talking about using a amp as a pedal platform are talking about using a completely clean amp sound.

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You don’t really need a loop, I do by force of habit. I like to use a volume pedal post gain and EQ in the loop. Very very handy when gigging especially with IEM’s. Works as a master volume. You can just put one after your gain pedals but it’s still before the input which is a gain stage and will affect the feel of the gain. I don’t think it matters too much with the SW as it doesn’t really have preamp gain.


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Ampeg V4/V2
Fender Showman/Dual Showman, with or without Reverb
Fender blackmaster heads all work well
Fender Bandmaster Reverb
Lots of decent clones, or similar type amps. Not like this is a new thing. Personally would rather have a refreshed original, usually cheaper than the boutique ones in the same vein.


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I'm using a Reverend Kingsnake 20/60 watt 1x12 combo amp as a pedal platform amp in a couple of my cover band gigs where I'm playing a lot of clean rhythm guitar and an MI Audio Crunch Box for crunch or lead guitar. It's an all tube combo amp that has good tone, 4 band EQ, effects loop, 20 / 60 watts output switch, tube reverb, come stock with a Jensen Neo 12-100 speaker, running on a pair of 6L6 power tubes. The Schizo switch on the front of the amp can change the voice of the amp from Fender, tweed, or a Vox like tone. Very versatile!

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I used the aforementioned JCM800 as a pedal platform back in the day. That was great. Fenders DO work well, just watch out for the bright switch. The new-ish Fender '68 Custom Twin is so good for this - the left side of the amp has the Bassman tone stack and you can A/B.

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The best pedal platform amps should produce a clean, solid tone, offer plenty of head room, and have easy-to-use controls with plenty of features. Listen to the amplifiers that are presented in the review https://stereodamage.com/best-pedal-pla ... ers-guide/


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I’ve played and owned a lot more amps since I last posted in this thread (including most mentioned here) and now I’d agree with Candletears7. My ‘81 Hiwatt DR103 is by far the best pedal platform amp I’ve tried and among my top 5 favorite amps of all time

My next favorites would be basically the same as what I posted here last time: Mesa/Boogie Mark IIC+ or better yet Mark III++ coliseum if you can find one, my ‘64 Vibroverb (better than the vibrolux I mentioned before and best blackface amp of all of them)

The Ampeg V4, that someone else mentioned here, would probably also be a great pedal platform amp. I never actually tried pedals with one, but I can imagine it working very well with them

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I used to have the VH4, Ecstasy & BE pedals, they all sounded killer through the clean channel of my old DSL JCM2000.

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if money was no object i would get a fuchs clean machine 150.

tosin uses a clean dumble type amp with pedals and his tone is amazing.


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MetalHeadMike wrote:
Germino club 40 sounds tits with pedals driving it. I really like it with a Timmy pushing it.


This. I've had a lot of amps. Nothing inhales pedals like the C40. I used a Timmy and Barber Gain Changer at band volume, Bogner Blue with those at lower volumes. That amp rocks with pedals. Better than a DRRI or my ol bf Dual Showman.


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I never felt like a super clean amp made a good pedal platform...... no matter how big the tranny. Amp at edge of breakup being pushed with a good OD always sounded vastly better to me. :dunno:


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Verellen amps.

I love my Skyhammer for everything, but it takes pedals really well too.

Verellen makes a few other models, like the Louchs, that are pedal platforms specifically. Also, Russian Circles (both members) use the Meatsmoke with some great success. Great tones to be had.

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I am going to have to say a fender blackface bandmaster for me. The silverface one I am currently modding will be more of a beast though, but not necessarily a clean one. I am curious to see how it ends upm

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The best pedal platform amplifier has send/return channels to connect the pedals correctly. Has a well-tuned clean tone. These amps are usually a lot of watts. here is a selection of such amplifiers https://stereodamage.com/best-pedal-pla ... ers-guide/


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The best pedal platform amplifier has send/return channels to connect the pedals correctly. Has a well-tuned clean tone. These amps are usually a lot of watts. here is a selection of such amplifiers https://stereodamage.com/best-pedal-pla ... ers-guide/


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MichaelWil wrote:
The best pedal platform amplifier has send/return channels to connect the pedals correctly. Has a well-tuned clean tone. These amps are usually a lot of watts. here is a selection of such amplifiers https://stereodamage.com/best-pedal-pla ... ers-guide/

I don’t fully agree. I agree that a great pedal platform amp should have a good clean base tone and higher wattage and headroom, but not necessarily about the send/return part and also some cleaner higher wattage amps don’t really have a great tone. This is why my old Hiwatt has been my clear favorite pedal platform with my iii++ coliseum being my next favorite.

The Hiwatt has an amazing clean tone that’s very punchy and high headroom, but it also has at the same time a beautiful, warm, organic tone that’s inspiring to play unlike many other high headroom cleaner amps that tend to also sound sterile if you run an override or fuzz pedal through it

So that’s I think the key: high clean headroom, but also a high quality base tone

The Wizards clean channel can also be a pretty good pedal platform for the same reason, but can be a bit too bright and hard sounding for my taste

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At the risk of offending the tube cork sniffers - Check out the Strymon Iridium. The Iridium is the best pedal platform I have ever owned. :rock:

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I would throw out there that the Rivera Venus Deux is a good option too. It was designed to be a pedal platform amp.

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Marshall super lead. But a jcm 800 works pretty awesome too. And if you need to drop the volume and get a really good clean you can use the low input plus pedals and it's pretty amazing.

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Personally I like 2 or more channel amp. One clean and the other with overdrive. A lot of the sounds from pedals I like sound better not using a clean amp.

Using a Fryette Sig X I setup ...Clean channel for a Hiwatt voice.
Rhythm channel with a Fender blackface.
Lead channel English crunch.

Each channel has a boost giving 6 voices to use with pedals.

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I prefer a more fender voiced amp for a clean platform. It's easy to make a fender sound brit with a pedal than to get a brit to sound like a fender. Personally the blackface bandmaster is the pedal platform for me.

It's plenty loud enough. It gets a little edge to it when at loud gigging levels just enough to make the pedals sound natural like the drive would sound legit. Has some touch response to it as well. Mine is loaded with Sylvania in the power and GE and Jan in the pre. I run it into some older Webers, one alnico and one ceramic.

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stephen sawall wrote:
Fender amps.... Marshall type amps usually sound like crap compared with Fender when using a pedal based rig.


What an assholic statement.
For anybody else, Marshall 4-input type are excellent pedal platform amps.


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mrlucky wrote:
What an assholic statement.
For anybody else, Marshall 4-input type are excellent pedal platform amps.


Maybe he changed his mind since April 2018?
And yes, what an asshole he is for having such a wrong opinion :lol: :LOL:


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