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PostPosted: Sun, Jan 27, 2019 7:29am 
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For those who are looking for an overview of the newly revealed Diezel amp, here is what I have managed to glean so far (based on various posts and the few available clips I have found from NAMM 2019):


The new amp is called the VHX.
It has fully analog/tube preamp and poweramp sections, but they are controlled digitally using a relay matrix or something like that.
Its overall sound might be based on the VH4 alone, or some combination of the VH4 and Herbert architectures.

Here is an image from Peter's NAMM 2019 Thread:
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Controls:
The knobs are digital encoders (rather than analog pots), and thus spin 360 degrees around (stepped) while adjusting the amps internal parameters.

-The knob by itself on the left (with the 3 lines next to it) appears to cycle through saved presets or move around the screen, but I am not entirely sure.

From top to bottom on the left side of the display (while in Preamp adjustment mode):
  1. Gain (Adjusts channel Gain and can be pressed/clicked to cycle through the gain modes: Clean, Crunch, Rhythm, and Lead.)
  2. Bright or Shape (This knob appears to have different functions depending on which channel is selected. Looks to be "Bright" for the Clean channel and "Shape", which is shown to gradually adjust tonal character/voice, for the others.)
  3. Treble
  4. Middle
  5. Bass

From top to bottom on the right side of the display (while in Preamp adjustment mode):
  1. Master (Adjusts Master Volume and can be pressed/clicked to switch between regular Master Volume, and low-wattage/1-watt mode.)
  2. Volume (Adjusts the Channel Volume.)
  3. Presence
  4. Mid-Cut. (The amp has mid-cut included, so it may simply be VH4+Midcut, or imply some combination with or availability of Herbert tones.)
  5. Depth


-I am not entirely clear on the various controls for the FX menu mode, but it appears that the bottom right knob is used for moving around and it looks as if multiple knobs are likely clickable for selecting various effect types/blocks and editing parameters.

Switches:
  1. Preamp (Press switch to show Preamp parameters on screen and make adjustments using the knobs.)
  2. FX (Press switch to show FX parameters on screen and make adjustments using the knobs.)
  3. Store (Save Preset.)
  4. Mute (Mutes amp. Mute status is shown on the Display.)


DSP:
-The amp includes a variety of built-in effects.
-Effects can be placed before or after the preamp.
-The display appears to indicate 8 slots/blocks.
-One of the blocks is shown to be labelled as "Loop A". This may indicate that there is also a "Loop B" available in the DSP, or that a Loop B is included as an analog/serial/etc loop, however, the Loop A block could also potentially be used to place an analog loop between built-in DSP effects. (I am also assuming that any included analog loops are switchable and store-able within the presets.)

Effects I have managed to spot so far:
  1. Comp (Compressor)
  2. Chorus
  3. Tremolo
  4. Delay
  5. Reverb
  6. GEQ (Graphic Equalizer. I am actually quite happy about this inclusion as it would allow for some nice fine-tuning and a lot of interesting tone-shaping possibilities.)
  7. Tuner

-I have yet to determine whether the DSP effects are all serial or if they have wet/dry controls available, but it stands to reason that blend controls could easily be included.

-The amp has built in DSP cabinet modelling / the ability to load IRs for custom options.


Additional Thoughts:
-I have yet to see anything posted about the wattage of the amp, but I am assuming 100W unless I see something to suggest otherwise.
-I have yet to see anything regarding the back panel, but I would assume the amp includes all of the usual Diezel connections.
-I think it is safe to assume that there will be a dedicated recording output of some kind.
-I am going to guess that this amp may have a USB port of some kind for firmware updates or possibly something like preset adjustment from a computer, but that is only a guess.


I will edit/update this post with any corrections or additional information as it becomes available. :rock:


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PostPosted: Sun, Jan 27, 2019 10:44am 
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We will have a manual of course. It needs maybe 2 to 3 months
to go into production and remove some small bugs.
We try to add a pre loop to the front panel and maybe a
third master called output which is not store able.
Let´s see what we discuss after the NAMM. Most work
is done and the amp sounds not bad ;-)


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Looking forward to checking this one out.

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So effectively 8 channels?


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This thing looks amazing. Can't wait to check one out.


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Hey Papa can we get a confirmation on what this thing is Pre-amp/Power amp wise? Is it a vh4 or herbert? Type heavy tone

Thanks sorry if i missed it already. Everything seems like conjecture so i wanna get from horse's Mouth


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We covered the channels from all amps.

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Peter Diezel wrote:
We covered the channels from all amps.

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OMG you are my hero! :rock:

Thanks for making me sound awesome for the last decade. :rock:

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Peter Diezel wrote:
We covered the channels from all amps.

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That’s gonna be insane with all the diezel channels

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Im in lol
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Peter Diezel wrote:
We covered the channels from all amps.

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WHAT?!?!?

AMAZING. Can not wait.


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amazing

but actually do you have any idea for the future price?

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Peter Diezel wrote:
We covered the channels from all amps.

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Hold up Sir... what???

This amp can do Hagen, Herbert, D-Moll, VH4, etc... all in one box??? :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

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Peter Diezel wrote:
We covered the channels from all amps.

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Wow, is that even possible?

Can you say to what amp pertains every channel?

Also, if it has Herbert DNA in it, is the last version of the Herbert, or the old ones?


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I'm already sold, just waiting to hear if it's a Kemper like amp or something new which sounds identical to each head channel it represents?

If this is even just a true Hebert/VH4 with effects and midi, it's a dream come true and I'll get one asap. Was about to get a Herbert MK3 but am gonna hold off to hear more both on here and in person.

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This amp seem unbelievable...can't wait to check it out!


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What is the release date on this?


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I really wanna know more about this! :D

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More info please, want this amp bad. :D

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Will this have a connection for future updates?
I’m hoping for morphing- ie hit a button and the gain gradually goes from 3.5 to 8.0, delay mix goes from 7.0 to 0, etc. speed of morph connected to the tap tempo

I assume this won’t be there on release but perhaps on updates

This head has a real chance to be a Game Changer!

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Will you be able to store every knob and setting with midi?


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Peter, any updates on this? Maybe by year end?
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Still can’t wait to see all that this has to offer.


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Pain wrote:
I'm already sold, just waiting to hear if it's a Kemper like amp or something new which sounds identical to each head channel it represents?

But that would be only if it represents every amp channel head identically to every other channel. However, it's very important to prepare for up and coming attractions and preparations with this amp. (303-227)


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orionz06 wrote:
So effectively 8 channels?

Maybe 8 multi-effect blocks. Not a 8 channel guitar amp. :aww:


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Hi Peter, I wanted to tell you that I'm checking this page almost daily for news about your new product. I almost bought my first Diezel-Amp (VH4) a few months back but I'm still waiting for this new amp to maybe change my mind. Anyways: Thank you for your enormous effort and creating such great products that enhance the experience of all our guitar sounds.

Hallo Peter, ich warte echt gespannt auf den neuen Verstärker. Möchte dir nur sagen, dass ich als (Hobby-)Musiker grosse Freude daran habe, wie ihr solch tolle Produkte entwickelt und mit welcher Philosophie ihr dahinter steht - da investier ich gerne und mit gutem Gewissen,- obs nun ein neueres Gerät (dieses?) oder ein etablierter VH4 ist. Hut ab :) .


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Curious what's up with this amp?
I'm looking to get it if available or should I just snag a Herbert 3 and move on?

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Its very close to the release. We will have one VHX at the NAMM
and I will built 10 pcs in January / February.


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Peter Diezel wrote:
Its very close to the release. We will have one VHX at the NAMM
and I will built 10 pcs in January / February.


Very excited for this!

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Giga.Blast wrote:
orionz06 wrote:
So effectively 8 channels?

Maybe 8 multi-effect blocks. Not a 8 channel guitar amp. :aww:

The way I was looking at it was that one could have 8 blocks, with or without effects, such that you can program a full VH4, ch1-ch4, as well as 4 other channels from whatever else the amp has in it.

I'd love the smaller VH amp, but if this has the effective 8 channels, it may take precedent.



Or it could be X number of channels with 8 effects blocks to go with the lower number of channels.


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Or we could just wait and see :student:

I'm sure whatever it is will be moving forward in technological advancement as per the "industry". Whether or not this translates to how devout Diezel users will receive the amp is up for debate. I doubt it's solely an analog amp (for lack of a better term), and that means some of the puritanism we DiezelHeads have become known for may have to flex a bit to realize where this new amp is going or who its target audience (thanks, Brian W.) is.

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orionz06 wrote:
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orionz06 wrote:
So effectively 8 channels?

Maybe 8 multi-effect blocks. Not a 8 channel guitar amp. :aww:

The way I was looking at it was that one could have 8 blocks, with or without effects, such that you can program a full VH4, ch1-ch4, as well as 4 other channels from whatever else the amp has in it.

I'd love the smaller VH amp, but if this has the effective 8 channels, it may take precedent.



Or it could be X number of channels with 8 effects blocks to go with the lower number of channels.


It is indeed an "effective" 8 (1 + 1 + 1(3) + 1(3)) channel inside, structured this way:
There are 99 available PRESET and for each everything could be stored, including:

Preamp Style (4 different kind)
Shape (3 different kind on Preamp 3 and Preamp 4) or Bright on/off (Preamp 1 and Preamp 2)
Gain Pot Value
Bass-Mid-Treble Value
Mid-Cut Value
Presence Value
Depth Value
Channel Volume value
Up to 7 different effect each with it's own storable setting, including Serial/Parallel FX loop and a front (before preamp) FX Loop
Cabinet simulation for each patch


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That sounds pretty solid. Can't wait to see and hear more.


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OMG this going to be amazeballs

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Below the current effects list:

IR Cab Simulator (always on)
Tuner (always on)
Preamp Loop
Effect Loop A
Effect Loop B
Noise Gate
Compressor
Pitch Shifter (polyphonic and low latency so detuning is easy as well)
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Sounds great, what are the 4 different preamp sounds?

Are these heads in general like, Herbert, VH4 e.t.c?
Or amp channels like Hebert Clean, Hagen Ch2, VH4 Ch3, Herbert Ch3 e.t.c?

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Pain wrote:
Sounds great, what are the 4 different preamp sounds?

Are these heads in general like, Herbert, VH4 e.t.c?
Or amp channels like Hebert Clean, Hagen Ch2, VH4 Ch3, Herbert Ch3 e.t.c?


Using the Preamp + Shape + Bright combination (relays so actual tube circuits) you could get all the channels from all Diezel amps and more actually:
We tested it very accurately trough this year and we were amazed as well by the tonal capabilities it could get when you add the mid cut/compressor/graphic eq into play as well, so I believe it would make even non Diezel fan happy!


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Any price indication for VHX?


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PostPosted: Sat, Jan 11, 2020 9:00am 
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It will be a fair price! We developed the VHX for people to play and enjoy!


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Leo Diezel wrote:
It will be a fair price! We developed the VHX for people to play and enjoy!

Great news :) What is the estimated availability of VHX in 2020?


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Please please let Musicians Friend offer financing on this

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TTV wrote:
Leo Diezel wrote:
It will be a fair price! We developed the VHX for people to play and enjoy!

Great news :) What is the estimated availability of VHX in 2020?


Production is already started and the first 10pcs will be ready for shipping about the end of NAMM, and others will follow regularly.


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Leo Diezel wrote:
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It will be a fair price! We developed the VHX for people to play and enjoy!

Great news :) What is the estimated availability of VHX in 2020?


Production is already started and the first 10pcs will be ready for shipping about the end of NAMM, and others will follow regularly.

Nice, waiting it to appear at Thomann :thumbsup: Are those first 10 units already sold/reserved?


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Ok I'm sold, if there's 1 available from the first 10 I'll buy it.
PM me with those details, otherwise please let us know who will carry it (Guitar Center e.t.c).

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I'm sure Peter will let you know when some will be ready... meanwhile I'll just let this here ;)


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I can't wait for more clips from this year's namm. :D

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Leo Diezel wrote:
I'm sure Peter will let you know when some will be ready... meanwhile I'll just let this here ;)


It's labelled the VHX but doesn't seem to be enough knobs?? Is this the VH Mini??

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