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So here it is! 1st quick test using the rhythm channel of my mark III blue stripe - Two Notes Torpedo CAB - custom IR + Suhr Loadbox + Charvel San Dimas Pro Mod DK 24
The party begins at about 0:16 !!
https://soundcloud.com/ios4ever/vfe-dra ... e-mark-iii

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2nd test omg this pedal is phenomenal!!! Different settings - excuse my sloppy playing and clipping! It makes the amp breathe fire!

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Nice man! I just grabbed a dragon too and the first few times weren't love at 1st play TBH. After tweaking my amp settings and playing with the pedal I'm really digging it. It's taken the Wizard to a whole other place in terms of saturation which none of my other ODs have been capable of. No other OD I've have required changes to the amp's settings like the dragon did, but once I figured that out it's been pretty damn cool.

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Nice man! I just grabbed a dragon too and the first few times weren't love at 1st play TBH. After tweaking my amp settings and playing with the pedal I'm really digging it. It's taken the Wizard to a whole other place in terms of saturation which none of my other ODs have been capable of. No other OD I've have required changes to the amp's settings like the dragon did, but once I figured that out it's been pretty damn cool.

Yeah I totally agree! It needs new settings and it takes some time before you figure out how it works well with ur amp! I am really surprised! If only I could find a standout!

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Good to hear! Don’t forget you can adjust the compression with the trim pot inside. I turned it on max compression...

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Both the Dragon and Standout rule. There is some overlap between them but they also each have their own flavor. The nicest thing about them is that there is so much adjustment range, you can get some really extreme sounds but also dial them in to be a very transparent boost if you want.

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Good to hear! Don’t forget you can adjust the compression with the trim pot inside. I turned it on max compression...

Thx a lot for demoing them! Otherwise I wouldnt have bought it! Oh I got overexcited and completely forgot about the compression thing! I'll try that later today!

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Both the Dragon and Standout rule. There is some overlap between them but they also each have their own flavor. The nicest thing about them is that there is so much adjustment range, you can get some really extreme sounds but also dial them in to be a very transparent boost if you want.

Totally true about the boost!

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Good to hear! Don’t forget you can adjust the compression with the trim pot inside. I turned it on max compression...

Thx a lot for demoing them! Otherwise I wouldnt have bought it! Oh I got overexcited and completely forgot about the compression thing! I'll try that later today!


You’re going to be in for an awakening, haha. The internal compression pot really shapes the pedal. Follow up with your thought on it. Like I mentioned earlier, I turned it completely for the most compression. A friend of mine set it low for more rock style.

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psychodave wrote:
Good to hear! Don’t forget you can adjust the compression with the trim pot inside. I turned it on max compression...

Thx a lot for demoing them! Otherwise I wouldnt have bought it! Oh I got overexcited and completely forgot about the compression thing! I'll try that later today!


You’re going to be in for an awakening, haha. The internal compression pot really shapes the pedal. Follow up with your thought on it. Like I mentioned earlier, I turned it completely for the most compression. A friend of mine set it low for more rock style.

Ur a legend, man! Thx a lot for everything! So far I am loving it! I'll be experimenting a lot today haha

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This pedal is a real dragon!
https://soundcloud.com/ios4ever/vfe-dra ... ripe-metal

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psychodave wrote:
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psychodave wrote:
Good to hear! Don’t forget you can adjust the compression with the trim pot inside. I turned it on max compression...

Thx a lot for demoing them! Otherwise I wouldnt have bought it! Oh I got overexcited and completely forgot about the compression thing! I'll try that later today!


You’re going to be in for an awakening, haha. The internal compression pot really shapes the pedal. Follow up with your thought on it. Like I mentioned earlier, I turned it completely for the most compression. A friend of mine set it low for more rock style.


That compression pot does make a huge difference. At first I wasn’t sure how I liked it, then remembered the trim pot. I ended up turning it down all the way but I have the pedal set with the drive extremely low and level almost maxed to slam the front of my amp.

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psychodave wrote:
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psychodave wrote:
Good to hear! Don’t forget you can adjust the compression with the trim pot inside. I turned it on max compression...

Thx a lot for demoing them! Otherwise I wouldnt have bought it! Oh I got overexcited and completely forgot about the compression thing! I'll try that later today!


You’re going to be in for an awakening, haha. The internal compression pot really shapes the pedal. Follow up with your thought on it. Like I mentioned earlier, I turned it completely for the most compression. A friend of mine set it low for more rock style.


That compression pot does make a huge difference. At first I wasn’t sure how I liked it, then remembered the trim pot. I ended up turning it down all the way but I have the pedal set with the drive extremely low and level almost maxed to slam the front of my amp.

I have yet to experiment with the trim pot! I need to find an appropriate screwdriver to remove the back plate of the pedal!

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Mad Axe wrote:
psychodave wrote:
sotosprince wrote:
psychodave wrote:
Good to hear! Don’t forget you can adjust the compression with the trim pot inside. I turned it on max compression...

Thx a lot for demoing them! Otherwise I wouldnt have bought it! Oh I got overexcited and completely forgot about the compression thing! I'll try that later today!


You’re going to be in for an awakening, haha. The internal compression pot really shapes the pedal. Follow up with your thought on it. Like I mentioned earlier, I turned it completely for the most compression. A friend of mine set it low for more rock style.


That compression pot does make a huge difference. At first I wasn’t sure how I liked it, then remembered the trim pot. I ended up turning it down all the way but I have the pedal set with the drive extremely low and level almost maxed to slam the front of my amp.


I didn't notice that much of a difference with the trim pot and wound up setting it in the middle. Maybe that's because I was turning knobs so much :dunno: I'll have to play with it again and a/b without turning the other knobs.

I haven't even tried it with the other amps but my ears still are having a hard time believing how saturated it gets the Wizard. Compared to the 6 other ODs I have on hand, the dragon's level of gain and saturation is significantly higher all while remaining super tight, punchy, and articulate.

There does seem to be some settings that get you into this really un-natural/processed cocked wah nasally mids territory. That's what was turning me off when I first started messing with the pedal and it took some drastic changes on the amp in conjunction with the pedal settings to dial that out. It's taken this amp to a completely new level :rock:

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Mad Axe wrote:
psychodave wrote:
sotosprince wrote:
psychodave wrote:
Good to hear! Don’t forget you can adjust the compression with the trim pot inside. I turned it on max compression...

Thx a lot for demoing them! Otherwise I wouldnt have bought it! Oh I got overexcited and completely forgot about the compression thing! I'll try that later today!


You’re going to be in for an awakening, haha. The internal compression pot really shapes the pedal. Follow up with your thought on it. Like I mentioned earlier, I turned it completely for the most compression. A friend of mine set it low for more rock style.


That compression pot does make a huge difference. At first I wasn’t sure how I liked it, then remembered the trim pot. I ended up turning it down all the way but I have the pedal set with the drive extremely low and level almost maxed to slam the front of my amp.


I didn't notice that much of a difference with the trim pot and wound up setting it in the middle. Maybe that's because I was turning knobs so much :dunno: I'll have to play with it again and a/b without turning the other knobs.

I haven't even tried it with the other amps but my ears still are having a hard time believing how saturated it gets the Wizard. Compared to the 6 other ODs I have on hand, the dragon's level of gain and saturation is significantly higher all while remaining super tight and articulate.

There does seem to be some settings that get you into this really un-natural/processed cocked wah nasally mids territory. That's what was turning me off when I first started messing with the pedal and it took some drastic changes on the amp in conjunction with the pedal settings to dial that out. It's taken this amp to a completely new level :rock:

Hell yeah bro! Best od I've ever tried for sure! I haven't tried it at the studio but when recording my mark III using the suhr + torpedo = mayhem! I think ur last sentence sums up the pedal... It's taken this amp to a completely new level

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sotosprince wrote:
Mad Axe wrote:
psychodave wrote:
sotosprince wrote:
psychodave wrote:
Good to hear! Don’t forget you can adjust the compression with the trim pot inside. I turned it on max compression...

Thx a lot for demoing them! Otherwise I wouldnt have bought it! Oh I got overexcited and completely forgot about the compression thing! I'll try that later today!


You’re going to be in for an awakening, haha. The internal compression pot really shapes the pedal. Follow up with your thought on it. Like I mentioned earlier, I turned it completely for the most compression. A friend of mine set it low for more rock style.


That compression pot does make a huge difference. At first I wasn’t sure how I liked it, then remembered the trim pot. I ended up turning it down all the way but I have the pedal set with the drive extremely low and level almost maxed to slam the front of my amp.

I have yet to experiment with the trim pot! I need to find an appropriate screwdriver to remove the back plate of the pedal!


Did you tinker with the pot yet?

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psychodave wrote:
sotosprince wrote:
Mad Axe wrote:
psychodave wrote:
sotosprince wrote:
psychodave wrote:
Good to hear! Don’t forget you can adjust the compression with the trim pot inside. I turned it on max compression...

Thx a lot for demoing them! Otherwise I wouldnt have bought it! Oh I got overexcited and completely forgot about the compression thing! I'll try that later today!


You’re going to be in for an awakening, haha. The internal compression pot really shapes the pedal. Follow up with your thought on it. Like I mentioned earlier, I turned it completely for the most compression. A friend of mine set it low for more rock style.


That compression pot does make a huge difference. At first I wasn’t sure how I liked it, then remembered the trim pot. I ended up turning it down all the way but I have the pedal set with the drive extremely low and level almost maxed to slam the front of my amp.

I have yet to experiment with the trim pot! I need to find an appropriate screwdriver to remove the back plate of the pedal!


Did you tinker with the pot yet?

Not yet! Damn, I haven't found the right screwdriver! :doh: :doh: :doh:

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sotosprince wrote:
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sotosprince wrote:
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psychodave wrote:
sotosprince wrote:
psychodave wrote:
Good to hear! Don’t forget you can adjust the compression with the trim pot inside. I turned it on max compression...

Thx a lot for demoing them! Otherwise I wouldnt have bought it! Oh I got overexcited and completely forgot about the compression thing! I'll try that later today!


You’re going to be in for an awakening, haha. The internal compression pot really shapes the pedal. Follow up with your thought on it. Like I mentioned earlier, I turned it completely for the most compression. A friend of mine set it low for more rock style.


That compression pot does make a huge difference. At first I wasn’t sure how I liked it, then remembered the trim pot. I ended up turning it down all the way but I have the pedal set with the drive extremely low and level almost maxed to slam the front of my amp.

I have yet to experiment with the trim pot! I need to find an appropriate screwdriver to remove the back plate of the pedal!


Did you tinker with the pot yet?

Not yet! Damn, I haven't found the right screwdriver! :doh: :doh: :doh:



There is no excuse for that. 😂 I probably have a hundred screw drivers in my shop. Lol.

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sotosprince wrote:
Mad Axe wrote:
psychodave wrote:
sotosprince wrote:
psychodave wrote:
Good to hear! Don’t forget you can adjust the compression with the trim pot inside. I turned it on max compression...

Thx a lot for demoing them! Otherwise I wouldnt have bought it! Oh I got overexcited and completely forgot about the compression thing! I'll try that later today!


You’re going to be in for an awakening, haha. The internal compression pot really shapes the pedal. Follow up with your thought on it. Like I mentioned earlier, I turned it completely for the most compression. A friend of mine set it low for more rock style.


That compression pot does make a huge difference. At first I wasn’t sure how I liked it, then remembered the trim pot. I ended up turning it down all the way but I have the pedal set with the drive extremely low and level almost maxed to slam the front of my amp.

I have yet to experiment with the trim pot! I need to find an appropriate screwdriver to remove the back plate of the pedal!


Did you tinker with the pot yet?

Not yet! Damn, I haven't found the right screwdriver! :doh: :doh: :doh:


Dude...it's a phillips for crying out loud :lol: :LOL:

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MetalHeadMike wrote:
sotosprince wrote:
psychodave wrote:
sotosprince wrote:
Mad Axe wrote:
psychodave wrote:
sotosprince wrote:
psychodave wrote:
Good to hear! Don’t forget you can adjust the compression with the trim pot inside. I turned it on max compression...

Thx a lot for demoing them! Otherwise I wouldnt have bought it! Oh I got overexcited and completely forgot about the compression thing! I'll try that later today!


You’re going to be in for an awakening, haha. The internal compression pot really shapes the pedal. Follow up with your thought on it. Like I mentioned earlier, I turned it completely for the most compression. A friend of mine set it low for more rock style.


That compression pot does make a huge difference. At first I wasn’t sure how I liked it, then remembered the trim pot. I ended up turning it down all the way but I have the pedal set with the drive extremely low and level almost maxed to slam the front of my amp.

I have yet to experiment with the trim pot! I need to find an appropriate screwdriver to remove the back plate of the pedal!


Did you tinker with the pot yet?

Not yet! Damn, I haven't found the right screwdriver! :doh: :doh: :doh:


Dude...it's a phillips for crying out loud :lol: :LOL:


He could use a butter knife... :lol: :LOL:

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Hahah laugh as you may want but I DID it! I haven't found the time to fiddle with it yet because I ve been busy! Also, my new used Charvel model 5a is here, so I guess I'll be posting plenty of clips!

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OK so after experimenting a bit with the internal trim gain I seem to prefer maximum or close to maximum! I can definitely hear a difference, you were right Dave!

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 Post subject: Re: NPD VFE Dragon
PostPosted: Mon, Jun 17, 2019 5:09pm 
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OK so after experimenting a bit with the internal trim gain I seem to prefer maximum or close to maximum! I can definitely hear a difference, you were right Dave!


I played with the trim pot too last night and to me it sounds the same both full on or full off :confused: Must be my ears are that F#cked :lol: :LOL:

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PostPosted: Mon, Jun 17, 2019 9:24pm 
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sotosprince wrote:
OK so after experimenting a bit with the internal trim gain I seem to prefer maximum or close to maximum! I can definitely hear a difference, you were right Dave!


Glad you like the pedal. :rock:

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