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Managed to snag this at a good price pretty close to home. I've been wanting a real deal Marshall 800 for a while, figure it's what all my favorite amps are based off of, and the only real one I ever owned I sold at a profit a few days after buying.

This one has had a lot of work done. I need to try and reach out to Trace and see if they have record of what mods were performed.

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No chance to crank it up tonight but I'm going to try and rip on it tomorrow and see what it can do. At low volume, it's certainly tighter and more saturated than any stock 800 I've heard. Curious to see what some volume does to it!

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I had a couple of voodoo modded marshalls. There should be a service tag number on the amp you can look up what work has been done to your amp right on trace’s website.


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I had a couple of voodoo modded marshalls. There should be a service tag number on the amp you can look up what work has been done to your amp right on trace’s website.


Where would that be located? Didn't see one


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I'm gonna see what I can do when I get home today! Last night was too late to crank it without the Misses wanting to kill me.

I'll put it through a cab and then the 2 notes captor and see what I can come up with


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Congrats! I had a Voodoo modded 1959, Jose I think, nice sounding amp. One of my buds thought it was "Screaming for Vengeance" tone. I had a Voodoo modded Laney for a bit, that was nice but not my thing. Trace does good work.

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got the amp home today< and am not super in love> it certainly gets extremely saturated< but still has that classic sounding low end< where it"s not punchy or immediate>

i will save judgement for when i practice with it this weekend< but i"m not totally sure it"ll stay in the arsenal


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Check the filter/can caps for bulging, on the underside in the chassis. If they are shot there's your lack of punch. Also, can you check your bias? If they are biased to low it can sound thin/anemic.

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Checking bias is must but hope it works out my friend. Congrats :cheers:

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got the amp home today< and am not super in love> it certainly gets extremely saturated< but still has that classic sounding low end< where it"s not punchy or immediate>

i will save judgement for when i practice with it this weekend< but i"m not totally sure it"ll stay in the arsenal


It may be worth having a tech check out the caps and bias.

You might also want to spend a good amount of time with the Global control on the back. Sometimes it does just what you want, but other times it can make things seem a little thin.


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got the amp home today< and am not super in love> it certainly gets extremely saturated< but still has that classic sounding low end< where it"s not punchy or immediate>

i will save judgement for when i practice with it this weekend< but i"m not totally sure it"ll stay in the arsenal

In this video atleast the low end is tight as hell and there's plenty of punch, maybe something's wrong with the amp.



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Thanks for the feedback everyone.

The tubes did not feel like they were running very hot, even when cranked , so the bias may play a part.

I hit my tech up, and he's going to go through it with a fine toothed comb for me next week. I told him whatever it needs, we will do it. I've wanted a real deal 800 for years, I want to make this one stick.


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Are you sure it’s a Voodoo mod?


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Are you sure it’s a Voodoo mod?

This....that Voodoo 1959RI I had was very punchy and tight, for metal it might have needed a slight boost but very little. If it's a homebrew mod of some sort and not a Voodoo, have your tech restore it to original. Stock 800 and a nice boost pedal is a golden tone.

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if you can make out the serial number on the back, it might work in Voodoo's mode lookup database. It's been a few years, but I seem to remember that working with a JMP1 preamp I had.


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Are you sure it’s a Voodoo mod?

Looks like the old hex mods. if so, the board will be gooped

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Are you sure it’s a Voodoo mod?

Looks like the old hex mods. if so, the board will be gooped


Do you have any details on that mod?


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I dunno what the mods may have done, but that description doesn't fit any 2204 I've used. They don't have a lot of bass in comparison to something like a 5150 or Recto, but what's there is extremely punchy and immediate. That why I use them with my 8-strings. Hope you get it sorted.


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Bad.Seed wrote:
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Are you sure it’s a Voodoo mod?

Looks like the old hex mods. if so, the board will be gooped


Do you have any details on that mod?

I heard a few back during the harmony central days. I always felt they were too khigh gain and just wasn't my thing

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I grabbed an 82 2204, showed up yesterday. It seems to have some components changed out for a few Mustards and Orange drops...instead of the lego caps. Maybe they are different values? But, nothing major from what I can tell. It sounds simply amazing...tons of push, bite, and thump. These 82s from mid year to mid 83 came with 500v or so on the plates...this one is from 9/82. Also came with 50w Dagnall transformers...I always thought 50w were Drake? But found a few other examples out there. I had another 82 2204 that had some minor gain mods, always regretted selling that one. This one makes up for it.

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can't comment about the Mod, but i had that exact amp with the checkered front and green tolex and gold piping. I Loved that amp! Should not have sold it.

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Got this baby back last night. Had all of 5 minutes to crank it, but it certainly sounds better now that the issues have been address.

No more volume bleed, all pots cleaned, solder reflowed in multiple areas, bias set correctly (was set far too high)

The amp sounds more full an punchy, by far. This thing gets super saturated as well. The low end still isn't quite as tight as I'd like. Currently has Winged C EL34's in it. I'm thinking about swapping to KT77 to see how those do in this amp, possibly KT88, but I'm not sure yet.

The other thing is, this amp is BRIGHT. Even through a dark cab like my RL Uberkab, I have the presence at 0 and the Treble at 1. The mids above 6 can get pretty nasty too, but I can still dial it in the get a good tone, despite this. It's also stupid loud. The girlfriend was outside doing some yardwork, so I cranked the amp for a minute, and holy hell. It was painful.

MY tech mentioned that the board was gooped, and even if he could get it off cleanly, that he would have a tough time figuring out what values were changed without a schematic of what was done. I may just leave as is for now, but I'd still love to tighten the lows up a bit more.


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Nice :rock:

If the amp is really bright you might want to have your tech de-goop the treble peaking circuit and look at those values. Also, I’m not sure a KT tube would help with the brightness as they can be pretty chimey too, but the KT77 is drop in for EL34s so no harm in trying it out :) Have you considered 6CA7’s? Kind of like an EL34 with some 6L6 characteristics.

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Was this ever confirmed to be a Voodoo mod?


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Was this ever confirmed to be a Voodoo mod?

I emailed voodoo with the pictures today. I'm waiting for a reply.


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After someone at the Voodoo Amps facebook page wrote back to me and told me to send them an email for a "Tonal Consultation", I did just that.

They responded last night with a personal message up top, and then a copy and paste section about what's required for the "Tonal Consultation" As I got towards the bottom, I got to the billing portion. $62.50 per 15 minute segment, just to speak to someone. Talk about customer service!

I kindly said, no thanks. I said if they can provide any info based on my serial number, that'd be great. Otherwise, not interested.

What a joke! I get that time is money, but I've spoken to a couple modders and amp manufacturers in the past, and none of them tried to charge me just for their response. Guess I'll just live with it the way it is and move on.


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If you haven't done it yet, I'd recommend putting some set-srew knobs on those three rear panel pots and really fiddle around with those. Here's the description page of what they do...

http://voodooamps.com/home/Modification ... tures.aspx


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After someone at the Voodoo Amps facebook page wrote back to me and told me to send them an email for a "Tonal Consultation", I did just that.

They responded last night with a personal message up top, and then a copy and paste section about what's required for the "Tonal Consultation" As I got towards the bottom, I got to the billing portion. $62.50 per 15 minute segment, just to speak to someone. Talk about customer service!

I kindly said, no thanks. I said if they can provide any info based on my serial number, that'd be great. Otherwise, not interested.

What a joke! I get that time is money, but I've spoken to a couple modders and amp manufacturers in the past, and none of them tried to charge me just for their response. Guess I'll just live with it the way it is and move on.
That is quite unfortunate. I had two amps modded by Trace and each time he was always available and we spoke multiple times on the phone without time constraints. That said, I know he is extremely busy but perhaps you can try to reach him directly through one of their media outlets. I know he does look at them as we recently had a brief exchange in one of them (I think FB). That said, it is utterly ridiculous that there would be any type of fee for researching your amp. I really hope that it's some kind of mistake....it's certainly not good business. Good luck.

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This is disappointing to hear but not surprising in todays market. My dealings with Trace on 3 marshall mods were nothing less than stellar. Voodoo has a sub-forum here too.


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$62.50 per 15 minute segment


Wow, that is bizarre.

This is like one of those fantasy RPG games where you take the magic sword you found in the dungeon to the blacksmith in town and pay him to identify it for you. Seriously though, there must have been some mistake, they can’t be that cheap?

Well, either way what matters is how the amp sounds. If it rocks then who cares! :)

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If someone charges me to simply speak with them for a few minutes then that will be the last time we speak. Customer service is shit and if guys like Dave Friedman and Kyle Rhodes, to name a few can answer emails personally and help in any way then these clowns don't deserve the business. Just my opinion of course...

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I played one of these voodoo modded 800s at GC, much preferred the amp with the mod switch off. Go figure.. :confused:


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Was this ever confirmed to be a Voodoo mod?

I emailed voodoo with the pictures today. I'm waiting for a reply.


Were you able to try the verify feature on their site? http://voodooamps.com/home/AboutUs/VerifyyourVoodoo/tabid/1016/Default.aspx


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If someone charges me to simply speak with them for a few minutes then that will be the last time we speak. Customer service is shit and if guys like Dave Friedman and Kyle Rhodes, to name a few can answer emails personally and help in any way then these clowns don't deserve the business. Just my opinion of course...


Agreed. I got prompt responses from both Dave Friedman and Scott Splawn any time I reached out to them. Both at no charge.

Like I said, I have no problem keeping the amp and just riffing it as is. It roars. Was mainly curious to see what exactly had been done so if I ever resell, I can identify it properly.


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If you haven't done it yet, I'd recommend putting some set-srew knobs on those three rear panel pots and really fiddle around with those. Here's the description page of what they do...

http://voodooamps.com/home/Modification ... tures.aspx


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$62.50 per 15 minute segment, just to speak to someone. Talk about customer service!


The only other amp builder I've heard that charges like this was Alexander Dumble. My, what a lovely reputation he's had !

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Wow. $250/hr? I'm in the wrong line of work. Maybe building guitar amps is profitable after all. :jerkit:

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Congrats!! Bad Ass Amp! Bet is sounds sick!!!

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Update:
Trace called me today after seeing the email I had sent to Voodoo. Nice guy, definitely not shy. Haha
He explained to me that basically some of their records had been lost from the early days, but the amp either had the Hex mod or Witch Doctor Mod, and they weren't terribly different. He also said that these mods were not cheap, and after hearing what I paid, said I got an insane deal. So that's good.

He recommended me having a cap job done on the amp, as the caps in this one are stock, which attributes to the low end being slightly slow and mushy, so I've already got that in the works for this baby. It screams, and I'd love to be able to use it live, so I'm willing to dump some money into it. Glad I was able to speak to Trace on this, and even more so that it didn't cost me $240, HA!


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Update:
Trace called me today after seeing the email I had sent to Voodoo. Nice guy, definitely not shy. Haha
He explained to me that basically some of their records had been lost from the early days, but the amp either had the Hex mod or Witch Doctor Mod, and they weren't terribly different. He also said that these mods were not cheap, and after hearing what I paid, said I got an insane deal. So that's good.

He recommended me having a cap job done on the amp, as the caps in this one are stock, which attributes to the low end being slightly slow and mushy, so I've already got that in the works for this baby. It screams, and I'd love to be able to use it live, so I'm willing to dump some money into it. Glad I was able to speak to Trace on this, and even more so that it didn't cost me $240, HA!
Glad to hear it worked out! Everything else aside, Trace has always been a stand up guy.

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fender126 wrote:
Bad.Seed wrote:
Update:
Trace called me today after seeing the email I had sent to Voodoo. Nice guy, definitely not shy. Haha
He explained to me that basically some of their records had been lost from the early days, but the amp either had the Hex mod or Witch Doctor Mod, and they weren't terribly different. He also said that these mods were not cheap, and after hearing what I paid, said I got an insane deal. So that's good.

He recommended me having a cap job done on the amp, as the caps in this one are stock, which attributes to the low end being slightly slow and mushy, so I've already got that in the works for this baby. It screams, and I'd love to be able to use it live, so I'm willing to dump some money into it. Glad I was able to speak to Trace on this, and even more so that it didn't cost me $240, HA!
Glad to hear it worked out! Everything else aside, Trace has always been a stand up guy.


Definitely a nice guy. Even offered some things he doesn't put out into the wild, but I won't repeat that here in respect to him (nothing sexual, or is it?)

I have the caps on order for this boy, F&T 50/50 500v. I'm thinking it'll be fresh as hell after everything done to it and ready to rip.


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