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TURN DOWN!!! :thumbsdown:


GUTS ME EVERYTIME!!!

I can be completely jacked for a gig, and someone telling me to turn down completely takes the wind out of my sails. I always had a lot of trouble coming back from the kick in the balls that was the turn-down request. Many gigs you'd have some effing busy body coming up to tell you to turn down even before you'd started playing. They'd see your amps and PA and take it upon themselves to play manager.

It doesn't bother me to be told to turn-up. So I tend to start out quiet, after 35 years of gigging.

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TURN DOWN!!! :thumbsdown:


GUTS ME EVERYTIME!!!

I can be completely jacked for a gig, and someone telling me to turn down completely takes the wind out of my sails. I always had a lot of trouble coming back from the kick in the balls that was the turn-down request. Many gigs you'd have some effing busy body coming up to tell you to turn down even before you'd started playing. They'd see your amps and PA and take it upon themselves to play manager.

It doesn't bother me to be told to turn-up. So I tend to start out quiet, after 35 years of gigging.



Hahaha!

The trick I learned was.. Reach for the amp and roll my guitar volume down until I got the thumbs up. Then when the gig starts roll that baby up!! Haha.


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TURN DOWN!!! :thumbsdown:


GUTS ME EVERYTIME!!!

I can be completely jacked for a gig, and someone telling me to turn down completely takes the wind out of my sails. I always had a lot of trouble coming back from the kick in the balls that was the turn-down request. Many gigs you'd have some effing busy body coming up to tell you to turn down even before you'd started playing. They'd see your amps and PA and take it upon themselves to play manager.

It doesn't bother me to be told to turn-up. So I tend to start out quiet, after 35 years of gigging.



Hahaha!

The trick I learned was.. Reach for the amp and roll my guitar volume down until I got the thumbs up. Then when the gig starts roll that baby up!! Haha.


:lol: :LOL:

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TURN DOWN!!! :thumbsdown:


GUTS ME EVERYTIME!!!

I can be completely jacked for a gig, and someone telling me to turn down completely takes the wind out of my sails. I always had a lot of trouble coming back from the kick in the balls that was the turn-down request. Many gigs you'd have some effing busy body coming up to tell you to turn down even before you'd started playing. They'd see your amps and PA and take it upon themselves to play manager.

It doesn't bother me to be told to turn-up. So I tend to start out quiet, after 35 years of gigging.



Hahaha!
The trick I learned was.. Reach for the amp and roll my guitar volume down until I got the thumbs up. Then when the gig starts roll that baby up!! Haha.


:lol: :LOL:

Then without you knowing the sound guy turns you off at the FOH and has the last laugh. :lol: :LOL:


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TURN DOWN!!! :thumbsdown:


GUTS ME EVERYTIME!!!

I can be completely jacked for a gig, and someone telling me to turn down completely takes the wind out of my sails. I always had a lot of trouble coming back from the kick in the balls that was the turn-down request. Many gigs you'd have some effing busy body coming up to tell you to turn down even before you'd started playing. They'd see your amps and PA and take it upon themselves to play manager.

It doesn't bother me to be told to turn-up. So I tend to start out quiet, after 35 years of gigging.



Hahaha!
The trick I learned was.. Reach for the amp and roll my guitar volume down until I got the thumbs up. Then when the gig starts roll that baby up!! Haha.


:lol: :LOL:

Then without you knowing the sound guy turns you off at the FOH and has the last laugh. :lol: :LOL:


We were running sound from the stage for a lot of our shows. Advantage... back to us! :lol: :LOL:

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That would do it! Never been kicked in the balls like that fortunately.

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I'm sure most of you guys have read about the suck button, but in case you haven't, here it is again: https://www.reddit.com/r/ProRevenge/comments/6a4vfm/the_suck_button_not_my_story/ Be careful with those sound guys!


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that was one nice thing about gigging with my vh140c, low volume wasnt a problem tonally


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that was one nice thing about gigging with my vh140c, low volume wasnt a problem tonally


Not a problem with the numerous Friedmans that I've owned either. They sound awesome from talk volume until deaf-inducing volume. Bogners needed to be worked a little more. Marshalls a LOT more.

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that was one nice thing about gigging with my vh140c, low volume wasnt a problem tonally


This is truth. The Vh140c sounded great at low volume...but crank it up and :D Badass amp :thumbsup:

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that was one nice thing about gigging with my vh140c, low volume wasnt a problem tonally


This is truth. The Vh140c sounded great at low volume...but crank it up and :D Badass amp :thumbsup:





yeah, ive been through i dont know how many amps thinking one was gonna finally dethrone it but it hasnt happened for brutal metal at least.


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I hate when that happens. I haven't played live for a while, but I'm thinking of doing some jamming with my cousin on drums at some family events coming up, as well as for New Years. My Dad has been supportive of my guitar playing by getting me some free lessons from a client, but he expects me to be learning "real music" rather than just play my own stuff. I'm doing the lessons to expand my repertoire so I can create my own stuff, as I'm not at all interested in strumming open chords and singing. I am grateful for the lessons but still, I'll only be taught what I want to learn. My Dad doesn't see education that way (in the last few years his mind has retrograded about 5 decades).
I keep having bad feelings that they all will demand that I turned the amp down no matter how quiet it is, and then my father either shutting the power off or pulling the speaker cable out before it is turned to standby causing the amp to blow up, and then I completely lose my shit... It's worrying me.


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I'm sure most of you guys have read about the suck button, but in case you haven't, here it is again: https://www.reddit.com/r/ProRevenge/comments/6a4vfm/the_suck_button_not_my_story/ Be careful with those sound guys!



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Played a gig saturday night in Wilmington, NC and the sound guy actually loved that I turned my Splawn QR up loud. To be fair, he's a gear nerd and was a guitarist in one of the other bands, but he was all about stage volume as long as the mains can keep up. My kinda guy


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TURN DOWN, FREE BIRD, YOU SUCK, FUCK YOU, EAT SHIT, GO HOME, heard all of those in my long gone gigging days.

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YOU'RE GAY

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Doesn't bother me. Years ago I played a gig and I was told before we started that I was too loud. I ignored it, the show was taped and later when I listened to the tape I heard that I was indeed to loud and it ruined the mix and the whole feel of everything we played .

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It is annoying. I usually comply. I hate it when they ask you to turn down before you even turned it ON!


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I have been told to turn down more than to turn up. Only stinks where you have your amp in the sweet spot and it just doesn't sound as good the more you turn down.

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Played a gig saturday night in Wilmington, NC...



...where'd you play in Wilmington? cool town isn't it!?

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naa digital modeling is worst

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naa digital modeling is worst

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"so...you do this as a hobby?"

Like we're playing darts or something. It particularly hurts because we make no money making it somewhat accurate, lol.

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Hmmmm, I’m very much on the fence about this one for two reasons. Firstly, I play in mostly small pubs, these days pubs like their punters to be able to have conversations and when you rock up with a 4x12 you immediately get glared at. Secondly, I do the sound for my bands and have invested in some very decent pa equipment but when that very good and powerful equipment can’t get the vocals over you’re other guitarist because they’re ‘in the sweet spot’ it tends to ruin the whole thing for me.

I get that valve amps operate best in a certain window but to me the days of rocking up with a 4x12 are long gone. A 30w head with a mic’d 1x12 through a good pa sounds just as good, saves everyone’s ears and helps get a good band mix. And in the age of reactive loads and digital modelling the days of the 4x12 and 100w head maybe over.


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I understand why they ask you to turn down, it happened to me a bunch of times too but then I started positioning the speakers differently.
We'd roll them up on the stage and turn them sideways so that the FOH does not get the full frontal impact.

99% of the time it works really well. Since then we started using kempers/in ears etc and we pretty much have the same great sound wherever we go.
Our drummer had been asked to play more quietly on a couple of occasions too... :_) we're the only band in our town where in a large club there's no overheads or snare miced :lol: :LOL:

There is something about professional bands who have figured this out where the overall sound level is plenty enough and everything sounds just about right to a point where you can still have a conversation with someone in the audience. I think it's more about controlled EQ than volume really.


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Most of the guitarists I've worked with? too ning

Also, the drunk super-sized "fan" girl after the gig slurring out, "hey, baby" as she stumbles her way up to your equipment. *SHUDDER*


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Most of the guitarists I've worked with? too ning

Also, the drunk super-sized "fan" girl after the gig slurring out, "hey, baby" as she stumbles her way up to your equipment. *SHUDDER*


super-sized need lovin too... :rock:

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Hmmmm, I’m very much on the fence about this one for two reasons. Firstly, I play in mostly small pubs, these days pubs like their punters to be able to have conversations and when you rock up with a 4x12 you immediately get glared at. Secondly, I do the sound for my bands and have invested in some very decent pa equipment but when that very good and powerful equipment can’t get the vocals over you’re other guitarist because they’re ‘in the sweet spot’ it tends to ruin the whole thing for me.

I get that valve amps operate best in a certain window but to me the days of rocking up with a 4x12 are long gone. A 30w head with a mic’d 1x12 through a good pa sounds just as good, saves everyone’s ears and helps get a good band mix. And in the age of reactive loads and digital modelling the days of the 4x12 and 100w head maybe over.

It depends on the venue. Many dive bar gigs will not want a blaring 4x12, lol. Even the bigger clubs where it is LOUD, I didn't see one 4x12. I saw a lot of 1x12s and it sounded great. I brought my Kemper & vertical 2x12 and I got it as loud as I wanted- probably in the low 90s db but not obscene 100+db. I am tempted to bring my 4x12 next time, but it's really not needed. You may be right, it' s over.

and with that, I'll snag some more speakers off the OP this week so I can haul that needless gear out on the town, lol

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"so...you do this as a hobby?"

Like we're playing darts or something. It particularly hurts because we make no money making it somewhat accurate, lol.


"So will you play for free, for the exposure"

Response - "I have been doing this for 20 plus years, got all the exposure I am going to get. Will Play for charity, but otherwise SHOW ME THE MONEY" :D


I am also amazed at what DJs (talking wedding DJs here) get paid. Yet when a band asks for that much to play a wedding, we are told we are just being greedy. A smart Band can have a DJ for inbetween sets to cover styles of music that the band doesn't play.

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Gitfiddler wrote:
“I’m pregnant”


winner!

3 kids and lots of gear sold later.... here i am. :confused:


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