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PostPosted: Wed, Dec 04, 2019 3:37pm 
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Sorry for a provocative Subject, but what I mean is that i've heard some guitarists say that pick really shouldn't affect your playability. However i feel that for example a Dunlop Jazz 3 picks are way easier to play with when compared to those limp fender and some other brand picks that usually fold into a calzone when you strum with them. Also the smaller size of the Jazz 3 picks seem to make them feel even sturdier when holding one.

Am i really just a shitty player for not really being able to do anything with those flaccid picks or anyone else here who feels like i do about this?

Also a general pick/plectrum thread. :confused:


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PostPosted: Wed, Dec 04, 2019 3:49pm 
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I can't use those tiny picks ,there just isn't enough to hold onto. I also don't like thin flimsy picks.Fender medium is my pick of choice, I can use heavy as well but prefer the medium .
As for your original question " is a pick an excuse for crappy playing"? NO. You should have plenty of what you like on hand and if your blaming your pick then maybe its time to find a new excuse.

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Well I will say that finding the right pick is very important to yourcomfort level in playing. I notice a difference in my playing with using different picks even just slightly different sizes. I got some picks from Ola Englund which are 1.14 jazz III's and then I have some 1.25's that are larger in shape. As soon as I grab one and start playing I notice a difference and it affects my playing. If I used thin or medium ones then I'm pretty screwed and it does feel sloppier. Once you find your goldilocks zone you adapt your entire playing around that (at least I do). Could I play all the same stuff with any pick? Sure but it will change the way I dig in and transition between strings

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splatter wrote:
As for your original question " is a pick an excuse for crappy playing"? NO. You should have plenty of what you like on hand and if your blaming your pick then maybe its time to find a new excuse.

Absolutely and i'm always armed with Jazz 3s when it's time for guitar business. But, for the sake of an argument, let's imagine that someone would force you to play with their pick which happens to be one of those sloppier thin ones and you let the guy know that your playing might not be that great with that given pick, could that be counted as just a bad excuse for not playing well?


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I've been playing JazzIII forever it seems. I can't even hold another plectrum without it feeling totally foreign in my fingers. So, ya, it does affect my playing if I don't have my pick-of-choice.

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YES! I’ll use any excuse I can, lol.


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I have played carbon fiber jazz iii's for a long time and I just make sure that I have one on me. The limp fender pics I can't deal with or tolerate for shit tbh.

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Another Jazz III abuser here. I have like 12 sitting on top of my amp and I have some in my truck in case I go to Guitar Center and don't want to deal with their cheapy GC picks they hand out. So yeah, I would say wrong pick = crappy playing. Use what works best.

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I cant use the thin fender picks, they flex and makes the timing off by a small amount, just enough to drive me crazy. Plus, they suck.

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Thanks guys, i already feel better about myself being able to play to my best only with the Jazz IIIs, didn't know that so many people were fond of them too. :D But i can understand why.


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I look like a pick as a specialized tool,you have to have the one that works. That to me is a MLB player with a specific sized/weight. You could give any .300 hitter a bad bat, and they couldn't hit for shit. Use what works best for you, and be responsible for having your tool with you.

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orange tortex for 20+ years now.
When they're bent, or super worn (which never happens since i loose them so fast), they feel "weird" in my hand, and i do feel like it cramps my playing enough for me to at least notice.

jarred dines has some joke in one of his videos where the guitar player "NEEDS A FRESH PICK!!", and i totally have thought that, in my drunker, sloppier moments playing. :lol: :LOL:


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Jazz IIIs are the only ones I can articulate with, but for shuffle-rhythm playing I've never been able to avoid shaving my knuckles on the strings.

I've often wondered if an intermediate-sized pick, something between the JIII and regular Dunlop 1mm Nylon would allow me to do both. I think there's something in that ballpark from Dunlop so hopefully someone can recommend one I ought to try. Gotta be readily-available (one reason I choose Dunlop), ultra-cheap and have decent grip...

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JimAnsell wrote:
jarred dines has some joke in one of his videos where the guitar player "NEEDS A FRESH PICK!!", and i totally have thought that, in my drunker, sloppier moments playing. :lol: :LOL:

Music Is Win imo had that same joke in one of his videos IIRC and that exact joke caused me to make this thread :D I thought that it was seen as a world ending thing if you wouldn't be able to play with a flaccid pick.


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Friend: Dude, you sucked tonight...what happened?

Me: Fooking pick...


:D :D :D :D :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :gethim: :gethim: :gethim: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :D :D :D


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Everytime I go to GC they hand me a thin pick to use when trying out guitars. They probably did my wallet a favor

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I've been a stiff pick user for years. Thin picks don't work for me. So yeah, if the pick is too flexible, I play like crap.

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I can't use the Jazz III style picks. I mean, I could probably adjust to the smaller size but I would drop them all of the time...LOL.

I like a regular sized pick with some kind of grip on it. anywhere from .80 to 1.0 is fine by me.

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evhfan wrote:
Friend: Dude, you sucked tonight...what happened?

Me: Fooking pick...


:D :D :D :D :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :gethim: :gethim: :gethim: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :D :D :D

I'm gonna have nightmares from this message :lol: :LOL:


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Dunlop Meshuggah Fredrik Thordendal sig pick. By far my fave pick. Grippy, right amount of snap and stiffness. Low friction. They just don’t wear out.

https://www.jimdunlop.com/product/45rft ... 10733-5.do

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There has been times. We are doing like a small party my place. We are jamming.
Bout 20 folks over. I drop my pick. I just keep going. Fingers. :lol: :LOL:
Didn’t have much ‘pick attack’ but we pulled it off with no complaints. :D

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I didn't even use a pick when I first started playing :lol: :LOL:

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Picks make a huge difference in the feel of my guitar. The way it interacts with the strings. I have some picks that make me hate my guitar. The good ones make it feel just right.

My current two favorites are the Primetone Jazz iii and more recently, the Petrucci Flow 2.0mm. I don't usually use picks that thick, but it's a really nice feel and attacks the strings just right.


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Purple Tortex or Wedge for me. 1.14.

I tried the mini Jazz III back in the day but I find they promote a lot of thumb movement. I find I get a lot more control with the bigger picks.

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Tortex Sharp picks have improved my tone and picking accuracy.

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