A-Bone (of TGP fame ) has a go fund me page for a serious uninsured illness

Your emotionally charged rhetoric is duely noted.

I can't fathom how you think I'm selfish for wanting marginalized groups with less opportunities than myself to have institutionally-protected opportunities, as that's not money going to my pocket.

You started off so cool-handed, too. How disappointing.
Why because I don't share your view. I don't agree with affirmative action at all. My philosophy is very simple. Best man for the job. No reverse discrimination.

Again not leftwing - I hope those people who say I'm a lefty are listening.
 
Why because I don't share your view. I don't agree with affirmative action at all. My philosophy is very simple. Best man for the job. No reverse discrimination.

Again not leftwing - I hope those people who say I'm a lefty are listening.
Socialism is an economic model of governance, the same as capitalism. Communism is a form of government, the same as Democracy. These are 2 very, very different things.

Socialism is applied by communist and democratic nations, alike. However, communism operates under a strict autocracy, thereby meaning one person rules all. The sick irony of it all is that this form of government was founded in a country that had just executed their Czardom for the same fucking reason.

I'll not even try to figure out the rationale behind that, as there is never anything lucid about a population who's chosen staple food is Vodka.

To trade in one autocracy for another. Fucking madness.
 
https://www.politico.com/news/magaz...-states-wont-support-palestinians-qa-00142277

The above article provides a lot of insight into the historically-murky relations between Palestinians and neighbouring Arab countries. Even before October 7, there were already tensions with Lebanon and Saudi Arabia, including an explosive armed conflict at a Palestinian refugee camp in Lebanon, link below:

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023...-ein-el-hilweh-in-lebanon-after-fatal-clashes

Furthermore, both Egypt and Jordan refused to allow refugees from Palestine into their borders, citing "doing so would encourage permanent displacement," but that language is very vague and looks past the absolute slaughter the people of Palestine are currently undergoing, link below:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politi...-are-hesitant-to-take-in-palestinian-refugees

The history of Palestine's relationships with other Arab nations is independent of their obvious aggravations with Israel. Unfortunately, it's quite the rabbit-hole.
I'm not going to suggest the dynamics aren't complex, but I don’t believe relations are as murky as you might think. But to your point there are different ethnic partitions within the broader Arab population and Iran isn't an Arab state. There are also religious divides. But the reasons that no Arab country wants to accept the Palestinians is because it would destabilize their own country and potentially make them a target by Israel given that Palestinians want their land, not another Arab or middle eastern land, so would likely continue the fight. It wouldn't solve the core issue.
 
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That is a misrepresentation.

1. I support Israel's right to defend itself against terrorists which are harboured in Gaza. As far as I know they still haven't released the hostages. Muslim terrorism has consequences so no sympathy from me.
2. Championing saving my own culture and not supporting multiculturism isn't racism. I don't think I'm superior or better however I don't think western nations should have been "invaded" by large amounts of people from foreign and incompatible cultures thereby effectively destroying themselves, their demographics and in turn their shared values. A lot of people agree with me.
3. Not being an antivaxxer and agreeing with the medical profession is hardly medical totalitarianism. It is also the position my Government took and support their decisions on this matter.

Lastly I don't support our enemies like Russia and Islamic Terrorists unlike you. All of which is perfectly normal and more of a patriot than you are despite not being from the US.
1. Israel is not in any way "defending" themselves. That's not self defense, sorry. Israel is rogue state with a criminal government and they are clearly ethnically cleansing Gaza. I think it is repulsive that you are sympathetic to this action in the face of all the evidence and horrors of what Israel is actually doing, but I guess that will be for you to figure out for yourself.

2. Tell all that to the Aborigines :ROFLMAO:

3. You're welcome to take all the vaccines you want, and I hope you do, just don't force them on others. That's what your government did. And they furthermore censored contrary data, placed people in camps and so on, and that's what makes it totalitarian.

4. I don't believe in collectives. I'm not into identity politics like you are. I support principles and objective truth and the international rule of law.

Orwell on "Nationalism" (I've posted this for you before — you should really consider it).

By ‘nationalism’ I mean first of all the habit of assuming that human beings can be classified like insects and that whole blocks of millions or tens of millions of people can be confidently labelled ‘good’ or ‘bad’.[1] But secondly – and this is much more important – I mean the habit of identifying oneself with a single nation or other unit, placing it beyond good and evil and recognizing no other duty than that of advancing its interests. Nationalism is not to be confused with patriotism.

...The nationalist does not go on the principle of simply ganging up with the strongest side. On the contrary, having picked his side, he persuades himself that it is the strongest, and is able to stick to his belief even when the facts are overwhelmingly against him. Nationalism is power hunger tempered by self-deception. Every nationalist is capable of the most flagrant dishonesty, but he is also – since he is conscious of serving something bigger than himself – unshakeably certain of being in the right. -George Orwell
 
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So now... all those who call me a lefty... am I a lefty? I think not.
Yeah, you are in my view. You look at the collective as your point of reference instead of the individual. You believe in big government and trust them to solve your problems. You want to centrally plan and control society, including who is allowed to be a part of it or not. Nazism in case you weren't aware is "National Socialism".
 
I can't fathom how you think I'm selfish for wanting marginalized groups with less opportunities than myself to have institutionally-protected opportunities, as that's not money going to my pocket.
I understand the sentiment, but the problem is that like you noted with communism, these power dynamics are abused. And at the end of the day, these sorts of policies create injustice in order to bring "justice" or "equality," for example by taking tax money from one person and giving it to another, even if the first one has done nothing to harm the "marginalized" person or group.
 
I understand the sentiment, but the problem is that like you noted with communism, these power dynamics are abused. And at the end of the day, these sorts of policies create injustice in order to bring "justice" or "equality," for example by taking tax money from one person and giving it to another, even if the first one has done nothing to harm the "marginalized" person or group.
By definition, a marginalized group cannot abuse a power dynamic because to be marginalized is to have no power.
 
By definition, a marginalized group cannot abuse a power dynamic because to be marginalized is to have no power.
I don’t think that’s exactly true, but I wasn’t saying that. For example, one could conceivably change genders or make a claim of racism in order to manipulate power to their benefit. But really I was talking about those that have the power to “Correct” perceived injustices can use it to their benefit, for example in order to obtain political support or do the bidding of corporate interests in exchange for implicit kickbacks, like a job offer once the civil servant exits politics.
 
I don’t think that’s exactly true, but I wasn’t saying that. For example, one could conceivably change genders or make a claim of racism in order to manipulate power to their benefit. But really I was talking about those that have the power to “Correct” perceived injustices can use it to their benefit, for example in order to obtain political support or do the bidding of corporate interests in exchange for implicit kickbacks, like a job offer once the civil servant exits politics.
None of this clap-trap is going to get A-Bone his $40K

:rolleyes:
 
2. Tell all that to the Aborigines :ROFLMAO:

4. I don't support groups. I'm not into identity politics like you are. I support principles and objective truth. If the truth is that one group is provoking or killing or stealing from another, I support the aggrieved's right to put an end to it, within the bounds of international and humanitarian law.
2. Tell that to the Indians/Native Americans.
4. For once we agree. I don't agree with identity politics at all insofar as politicians pigeon hole groups and try to give some groups preferential treatment. Identity Politics is most the domain of the left. It's a shame the right gets sucked into use the left's pigeon hole identity terms because it give the left a form of pseudo validation.
 
…like you care 🤣
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I'm not going to suggest the dynamics aren't complex, but I don’t believe relations are as murky as you might think. But to your point there are different ethnic partitions within the broader Arab population and Iran isn't an Arab state. There are also religious divides. But the reasons that no Arab country wants to accept the Palestinians is because it would destabilize their own country and potentially make them a target by Israel given that Palestinians want their land, not another Arab or middle eastern land, so would likely continue the fight. It wouldn't solve the core issue.
I never mentioned Iran, but for obvious reasons they're certainly relevant to this conversation as of recent events in Syria and their reaction to that.

A friend of mine in Cali mentioned he saw USAF planes shooting westward from a coastal AF base yesterday. He's a vet, and implied that this is something you only see when things are getting nasty.

If Iran is gearing up against Israel, we may get pulled into a global conflict.

Biden needs to spank Netenyahu's ass. And fast.

edit: Your posting style is familiar, I wonder if we interact on TGP as well.
 
Socialism is an economic model of governance, the same as capitalism. Communism is a form of government, the same as Democracy. These are 2 very, very different things.

Socialism is applied by communist and democratic nations, alike. However, communism operates under a strict autocracy, thereby meaning one person rules all. The sick irony of it all is that this form of government was founded in a country that had just executed their Czardom for the same fucking reason.

I'll not even try to figure out the rationale behind that, as there is never anything lucid about a population who's chosen staple food is Vodka.

To trade in one autocracy for another. Fucking madness.
Bolshevism, which morphed into Soviet communism, was not intended to be permanent. It was supposed to be replaced be “Marxist Communism” once revolutionary goals were met. Had Lenin lived another 25 years the Soviet Union would have looked more like socialism than communism. Or at least that was the intent.
 
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