The Bogner is definately better made for sure. Enough to warrant almost double the cost, I dont think so. Perhaps if I get a chance to A/B them with the same kind of speaker, I'd have a better idea. I do like the Weber 65's in this cab a little more than the Greenbacks in the other. Hmmm.Digital Jams":73ca3 said:Interesting, the Bogner has the strips screwed to the where the sides meet and the backs are secured a tad different. I have no clue if that does anything tone wise.
I know where my next 4x12 is coming from, thanks for your trouble Dan.
Digital Jams":4e307 said:Interesting, the Bogner has the strips screwed to the where the sides meet and the backs are secured a tad different. I have no clue if that does anything tone wise.
I know where my next 4x12 is coming from, thanks for your trouble Dan.
Digital Jams":ecb2a said:Interesting, the Bogner has the strips screwed to the where the sides meet and the backs are secured a tad different. I have no clue if that does anything tone wise.
I know where my next 4x12 is coming from, thanks for your trouble Dan.
Digital Jams":a45e7 said:Well I could always add the mid support and the bracing where the sides meet for about $15 bucks, I would want that center brace to go up against the back if I was playing loud to keep the back in-place better.
The Bogner does appear to be built better but imo not $300 better but then I am going by sight only and not listening to these cabs.
danyeo":2efdd said::|::QBB:
That Avatar 2x12 is from Mojo, but the Avatar 4x12's are not from Mojo. I'm not sure where they get their 4x12's from.
Gainfreak":9bc9a said::|::QBB:
You might be able to get a deal on a loaded cab from this guy!! Might save you some money and they are well built cabs.
http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=231405
mctallica1":ef7ac said:Thanks for all the info in this thread folks. I am interested in the Avatar Vintage 4x12's. Still not sure if they are comparable to what I have though.
I am looking for another 4x12 but with different character than what I have now.
In the end I may just end up buying an old school Mesa cab, but want to explore my options first.
I also tried the link Ralph posted above, but it came up invalid...anyone know who the gyuy he is talkng about is?
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tweed":4c96e said::|::QBB:
I talked to Hgainiac on teh phone a few days ago. Friend of his just bought an Avatar 4x12 Vintage loaded with h30's and they said the construction was top notch and it sounded glorious with MKIV and JVM. Im undecided whether to get another 4x12 or just get a 2x12 from Avatar.
mctallica1":f4eda said::|::QBB:
Very interesting.
Do you know if this friend plays metal?
For the price, those cabs look awsome.
danyeo":cdaca said:I just got my Avatar Vintage 2x12 in. I haven't loaded the speakers in it yet but from what i can tell, fuck Bogner and their bloated prices. The Avatar 2x12 is top notch, it's a Mojo cab anyway. And i got it from the Scratch/dent overstock and the defect on it is soo damm small it took me a few minutes to find it.
I haven't even played it but I'm pretty much sold on it, i wouldn't waste my money on a Bogner.