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new LTD Kamikaze-
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Ventura":3n81vxlu said:The E-II NT7B is readily available, but the rabble on the street is E-II are their moderate older Elite(??) series LTD, LTD is still LTD, and to get a proper (formerly "Standard") one has to go through their USA Custom Shop now.
I have the Yellow Tiger GL-200MT and the Purple sunburst 200 SBC ,once I took off the Floyd rose specials and replaced with German Floyds and took off the horrible stock ESP tuning keys and set them up for me they play and sound great,I like this one too as well,,I am an LTD fan.the rossness":1fmgw7c0 said:new LTD Kamikaze-
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This. I believe they realized the euro of their ways putting the LTD name on $1700+ guitars. I personally liked my Standard Series Viper and DV8. If the EII guitars are of that caliber than I am all in for the Arrow V.Pushead":vcf9m1sv said:Ventura":vcf9m1sv said:The E-II NT7B is readily available, but the rabble on the street is E-II are their moderate older Elite(??) series LTD, LTD is still LTD, and to get a proper (formerly "Standard") one has to go through their USA Custom Shop now.
E-II replaced the old Standard Series (It was called LTD Elite for a year before the E-II name was brought in). CNC cut, production line assembled, finished and QC at ESP Japan. People claim different things as to whether the CNC work is done in Japan or at the Jixi factory in China (where people also say Edwards are done.) If you're ordering an ESP from Japan, you're getting their "Custom Shop" level production and price. The ESP Standard line was never meant to be that.
ESP has decided to only put the "ESP" name on their top line builds in Japan and built a USA shop to appease the North American market. The change happened when ESP got sick of the Japanese market importing ESP Standard guitars.
I guess they just need a headless multiscale with poor QC to be up to date.Stealthtastic":31fi69hn said:Incredibly out of touch spec choices as always. They seem to be stuck in 2008. This is coming from an ESP dealer too.
I really wish they'd just bring back the ESP designation for Japanese made guitars too, the EII thing has really killed demand for the product in the US. We've had so many clients ask about getting the EII with the ESP logo instead. It doesn't bug me personally, but if it bugs clients then that's all that matters. Even the higher ups I spoke to @ NAMM were confused by it.
Oh well.
Stealthtastic":2ku641on said:Even the higher ups I spoke to @ NAMM were confused by it.
maddnotez":168koqyh said:I guess they just need a headless multiscale with poor QC to be up to date.Stealthtastic":168koqyh said:Incredibly out of touch spec choices as always. They seem to be stuck in 2008. This is coming from an ESP dealer too.
I really wish they'd just bring back the ESP designation for Japanese made guitars too, the EII thing has really killed demand for the product in the US. We've had so many clients ask about getting the EII with the ESP logo instead. It doesn't bug me personally, but if it bugs clients then that's all that matters. Even the higher ups I spoke to @ NAMM were confused by it.
Oh well.
maddnotez":17fe0pd7 said:I guess they just need a headless multiscale with poor QC to be up to date.Stealthtastic":17fe0pd7 said:Incredibly out of touch spec choices as always. They seem to be stuck in 2008. This is coming from an ESP dealer too.
I really wish they'd just bring back the ESP designation for Japanese made guitars too, the EII thing has really killed demand for the product in the US. We've had so many clients ask about getting the EII with the ESP logo instead. It doesn't bug me personally, but if it bugs clients then that's all that matters. Even the higher ups I spoke to @ NAMM were confused by it.
Oh well.
Stealthtastic":7inrxkg3 said:maddnotez":7inrxkg3 said:I guess they just need a headless multiscale with poor QC to be up to date.Stealthtastic":7inrxkg3 said:Incredibly out of touch spec choices as always. They seem to be stuck in 2008. This is coming from an ESP dealer too.
I really wish they'd just bring back the ESP designation for Japanese made guitars too, the EII thing has really killed demand for the product in the US. We've had so many clients ask about getting the EII with the ESP logo instead. It doesn't bug me personally, but if it bugs clients then that's all that matters. Even the higher ups I spoke to @ NAMM were confused by it.
Oh well.
Haha maybe. What I mean really is their insistence on ToMs, outdated finishes, etc...
We move more PRS than ESP even though our primary audience is metal guitarists. PRS has done a KILLER job showing the CU24 off in metal applications though.
maddnotez":nzt8oy5h said:What did they have 2 colors for a Horizon NT this year. Ridiculous, they seem to be very conservative.
I honestly think they would sell more if they did those little things. Let you pick your hardware, finish, neck profile and color on any model that they may have. Hell they could even call it a "semi-custom" and charge an xtra bone or two.
Pushead":2qdidhcw said:maddnotez":2qdidhcw said:What did they have 2 colors for a Horizon NT this year. Ridiculous, they seem to be very conservative.
Not to be contrary, I have Eclipses in 10 different colors/finishes (and one in a 11th finish that I sold). They don't offer a bunch of colors a year, but they seem to offer a new color every other year or so. But yeah they hedge their bets on, you liking black or white.
I honestly think they would sell more if they did those little things. Let you pick your hardware, finish, neck profile and color on any model that they may have. Hell they could even call it a "semi-custom" and charge an xtra bone or two.
That's sort of what they're doing with the USA Custom Shop. The price is a bit high for the market (by my estimate, anyway). I liked Carvin/Kiesel's model for that type of thing.
I called ESP California about 430pm their time and asked about this guitar,and the guy said hold on,then when he got back on the phone he said one of their higher ups said the LTD version here is almost 100% going to be produced because they had a good run with the ESP version.I am hoping he is right !the rossness":14ad5ttp said:new LTD Kamikaze-
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Vin Diezel":3fp7edh7 said:maddnotez":3fp7edh7 said:I guess they just need a headless multiscale with poor QC to be up to date.Stealthtastic":3fp7edh7 said:Incredibly out of touch spec choices as always. They seem to be stuck in 2008. This is coming from an ESP dealer too.
I really wish they'd just bring back the ESP designation for Japanese made guitars too, the EII thing has really killed demand for the product in the US. We've had so many clients ask about getting the EII with the ESP logo instead. It doesn't bug me personally, but if it bugs clients then that's all that matters. Even the higher ups I spoke to @ NAMM were confused by it.
Oh well.
ROFL!
maddnotez":39x3u3vd said:Vin Diezel":39x3u3vd said:maddnotez":39x3u3vd said:I guess they just need a headless multiscale with poor QC to be up to date.Stealthtastic":39x3u3vd said:Incredibly out of touch spec choices as always. They seem to be stuck in 2008. This is coming from an ESP dealer too.
I really wish they'd just bring back the ESP designation for Japanese made guitars too, the EII thing has really killed demand for the product in the US. We've had so many clients ask about getting the EII with the ESP logo instead. It doesn't bug me personally, but if it bugs clients then that's all that matters. Even the higher ups I spoke to @ NAMM were confused by it.
Oh well.
ROFL!
What’s funny about this......
Looks like they’ve got the poor QC down already.
Just got an MH-1000 Evertune in the mail today. The 12th inlay is gone so I guess it’s the newer model preparing for 2018?
Passed ESP USA QC and Sweetwater 55 point inspection somehow. Many many issues with the finish. Very disappointed.
$1,100 guitar, has black paint smudges on the binding at nearly every single fret, a little discoloration on the board, imperfections where the binding meets the body and the neck. Plus the back plate is completely scratched to shit with no plastic covering.
Before people say it’s an LTD what did you expect, I’ll say this. The guitar cost $1,100 and is the top of the line LTD 1000 Deluxe. I have other LTD that don’t have these issues and TBH have never seen such poor quality on any finish of ANY guitar I have owned.
Is a shame because it plays and sounds incredible but I just cannot accept so many flaws on a “new” guitar.
Not sure what to do. I worry if I exchange for another the same thing will happen.