Ok @mrwiredot answer me this.
How can a god who is omnipotent and omniscient have an enemy he cannot defeat (the devil)?
How can a god who is omnipotent and omniscient have an enemy he cannot defeat (the devil)?
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Who do you think you are to question the divine plan?
The real answer is the clergy had to have a stick to go with the carrot. "Pray and pay (tithe) or burn for all eternity".
It's so obvious it's laughable. But it seems "hide in plain sight" seems to work like a charm for the last few thousand years.
Anyone who looks both ways before crossing the street is an atheist.
The most fundamental problem I have with Christianity is really very simple.
1. Person lives a good life. Never sins, but doesn't find God. - BURN IN HELL
2. Person lives a life of lying, cheating, and stealing. In their final days they find God. - HEAVEN AWAITS.
1. Person lives a good life. Never sins, but doesn't find God. - BURN IN HELL
2. Person lives a life of lying, cheating, and stealing. In their final days they find God. - HEAVEN AWAITS.
Who do you think you are to question the divine plan?
It's a fucking alt circus in here.............insanity gone rampant..........for real
mrwiredot
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satan was defeated on the cross, when Jesus died for our sins. the weapon satan had was stripped from him - his accusation before God that we are guilty and should perish with him. when Christ died that accusation was nullified. everyone who entrusts themselves to Christ will not perish.
this is why when i hear people say tings like, "its my life,,," and/or "how i choose to live my life..." theres a problem. it's not your life. it never was. Christ bought and paid for it on the cross
So, then Satan is essentially powerless? Did I understand that correctly?
mrwiredot
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no. satan is powerful and subtle. one is his titles is 'the god of this world'.
Can you see how I'm having trouble reconciling that he was defeated yet he is powerful at the same time?
mrwiredot
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not really. except to say that perhaps you arent aware that God exist outside our time domain.. that is to say, God deos not participate in "time".
Aynirar27
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It’s like how in Legend of Zelda Skyword Sword, Link defeats “Demise” who is hatred incarnate. However before he is fully deceased, he places a curse on Hyrule so that his hatred will be incarnated through others for the rest of time.
In subsequent games, Link and other Heros cannot fully defeat the evil, only seal away it’s physical form for long periods of time. Even though largely sealed away, the evil still manifests itself in different ways across Hyrule.
Hope that helps
Hot damn! That was a good answer.
It would be a perfect analogy* if there was a God mode in Zelda and Link had that power.
*given the caveat that a perfect analogy doesn't exist outside of it being the exact thing it's supposed to be analogous to.
Well, either God is omnipotent or he isn't.
I think a better answer you could have used is God allowed Satan to exist as temptation which we have to resist to be allowed into heaven.
Damn, I'm giving you ammunition. Lol. I'm not supposed to do that.
I suppose I could follow up with a discussion about time but (pun intended) I don't have time.
Stripped Rights
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That's one of the funniest memes I've seen in a long time. 
mrwiredot
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flawed premise. God deso not "allow' satan to exist. Satan is a direct creation of God. satan was created perfect, then fell
