Revv amps?

[DECEMBER]

Oh boy! I ended up here because I've been considering offering my Generator 120 III for trade locally and was wondering what other people think of it.

I was super excited when I first got it, but after nearly two years, I've realized that I barely plug into it. I have 6 other amps and tend to chose them over it.

I keep thinking to myself that it sounds kinda like I'm using a plugin through my monitors, regardless of settings. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but I feel like a want something more raw.

Do you mean with the XLR output and TwoNotes cab sims it sounds like a plugin? Or thru a real cab?
I have the G20 and I'm not impressed with the TwoNotes stuff in it. I've also had a free version of their Wall of Sound plugin for a year or so with 14 IRs and I thought that was absolute trash, running my pedals directly into the interface to the plugin
I've spent many nights dialing in the Torpedo Remote on the computer for the G20 XLR, making many presets, recording many trial takes with them all, and none of them give a recording that is even remotely usable. They're all really tubby and boxy, sound like the 'mic' is a couple feet from the 'speaker', even when distance is set to 0, sounds like it's in a tunnel. The high end is always really harsh and buzzy.
I just got a 15+ year old Line 6 Flextone III XL with stereo XLR outs and that gives a more usable recording than the TN stuff.
The G20 thru guitar speakers sounds like a tube amp, has that nice smooth tube distortion, but it's really muddy, even with the treble maxed out. And the treble boosts too much of the high mids and makes it quacky. With gain maxed on red aggression, with a Precision Drive in front, it's still flubby and doesn't really chug. More like 'blub blub'. The bass is muddy and there are too much mids, even with the mid knob at 0 and a 10 band parametric EQ in the FX loop. And it's just a wonky midrange.
I like it better than the other 3 tube amps I have/had (Peavey Invective MH & ValveKing II 20 combo, Marshall DSL20CR), but that's not saying much.
The old Flextone I just got totally destroys all of these tube amps and is giving me much better recordings, with mics and DI.
I think I've given up on 20W tube amps. I've spent way too much money on them, wasted almost 2 years trying to get them to sound the way I need... a way they just can't sound, apparently. I love the feel, dynamics, and smoothness of tube distortion so much more than solid-state, but the EQ profiles of all 4 of these amps have been completely wonky. All the wrong mids in all the wrong places. Tubby, muddy bass & low-mids. Harsh high end with excessive screech and fizz. Even with a 10 band parametric EQ in the loops, I could not dial in a usable chuggy rhythm that recorded acceptably. I used a few different speakers with them, including an Eminence DV-77, GA10-SC64, and Celestion G12H-75 Creamback. I'm even liking the stock Celestions in the Flextone more than these speakers.

 

[amphoarder]

Do you mean with the XLR output and TwoNotes cab sims it sounds like a plugin? Or thru a real cab?
I have the G20 and I'm not impressed with the TwoNotes stuff in it. I've also had a free version of their Wall of Sound plugin for a year or so with 14 IRs and I thought that was absolute trash, running my pedals directly into the interface to the plugin
I've spent many nights dialing in the Torpedo Remote on the computer for the G20 XLR, making many presets, recording many trial takes with them all, and none of them give a recording that is even remotely usable. They're all really tubby and boxy, sound like the 'mic' is a couple feet from the 'speaker', even when distance is set to 0, sounds like it's in a tunnel. The high end is always really harsh and buzzy.
I just got a 15+ year old Line 6 Flextone III XL with stereo XLR outs and that gives a more usable recording than the TN stuff.
The G20 thru guitar speakers sounds like a tube amp, has that nice smooth tube distortion, but it's really muddy, even with the treble maxed out. And the treble boosts too much of the high mids and makes it quacky. With gain maxed on red aggression, with a Precision Drive in front, it's still flubby and doesn't really chug. More like 'blub blub'. The bass is muddy and there are too much mids, even with the mid knob at 0 and a 10 band parametric EQ in the FX loop. And it's just a wonky midrange.
I like it better than the other 3 tube amps I have/had (Peavey Invective MH & ValveKing II 20 combo, Marshall DSL20CR), but that's not saying much.
The old Flextone I just got totally destroys all of these tube amps and is giving me much better recordings, with mics and DI.
I think I've given up on 20W tube amps. I've spent way too much money on them, wasted almost 2 years trying to get them to sound the way I need... a way they just can't sound, apparently. I love the feel, dynamics, and smoothness of tube distortion so much more than solid-state, but the EQ profiles of all 4 of these amps have been completely wonky. All the wrong mids in all the wrong places. Tubby, muddy bass & low-mids. Harsh high end with excessive screech and fizz. Even with a 10 band parametric EQ in the loops, I could not dial in a usable chuggy rhythm that recorded acceptably. I used a few different speakers with them, including an Eminence DV-77, GA10-SC64, and Celestion G12H-75 Creamback. I'm even liking the stock Celestions in the Flextone more than these speakers.

Sorry, I completely missed this reply.

Both ways, really. I already had a Captor X when I got this and have used it on my other amps. It's not a perfect solution, but a good way to play on an amp late at night. I use the attenuation function more than anything.

Even when played through a cab it doesn't wow me. I mean, it sounds good, but it doesn't have anything that I can't get from one of my other amps.

If you could only have one amp, then sure, but I feel like I can get the purple channel sound from my 5150 II, 5150 III Mark IV, or JP-2C. Then I've got a Rev G and Multiwatt Dual Rectifier that can cover the red channel.

I don't really have any thing that covers green, but I find that the worst and most flubby. It's supposed to be Marshall-like, but I don't hear it.

They talk about it being mix ready, which I think translates to compressed. It just doesn't have that oomph factor that my other amps have.

I might try and trade it for something like an 80s JCM 800 or an old 5150.

 

[Chronic Narnia]

I’ve looked hard at the Generator MKIII multiple times but always steer myself away thinking I have similar tones with the heads I have already. I would really love to try one in person once and for all.