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Don't know if anyone posted this yet.On The Music Zoo's site they have info and pics on the new Charvel Pro Mods that will be made in Japan.


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As long as they don't change the neck, I don't care where they're made. Too bad they aren't USA, as they were about the best value of any American guitar, but they have their reasons.

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I just looked through all the Charvels on their site and couldn't find them.. Could you post the link ? Thanks

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ahh found it...

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True. The new Charvel Pro Mods will be made in Japan, in fact, the Charvel logo will have "Made in Japan" below it. They will list for $899 with a hard shell case.

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What Steve said!

I played these guitars about three weeks ago. If you liked the previous USA Production series guitars, you will like these. They are identical in every way and spec except they are putting a vintage tint in the oil finishes they are using on the necks so they won't be so stark white when they're brand new.

So again, exact same specs and to be honest, the quality of the worker on the Japanese production line is to a higher standard than the quality of the worker on the USA production line. What I'm saying is that every single employee who touches guitars in the Japanese factory must have graduated from a guitar luthiers school. The same cannot be said about the people on the USA production line. Also, the Japanese factory building these only builds Jackson and now the new EVH and Charvel production series guitars. Nothing else.

They include a nice, hard shell case and are supposed to sell for $899. Charvel has threatened to pull the line from any store that advertises them for less than $899 anywhere. They were pretty lax on the USA Pro mods about this but they insist this time they're serious. We'll see. I still can't stand that they don't have a retail price which should be in the $1200 range based on what these cost me. Instead they do this $899 street price thing and everyone immediately wants to knock money off. I wish they'd quit that experiment.

The colors will remain red, white and black year round in the San Dimas and the So Cal styles and every quarter there will be one new wildcard. That's it.

It's a great guitar. It bothers me that they are no longer made in USA from a historical standpoint but not from a playability standpoint after playing them. However, I know there will be people who won't want them because they aren't USA made and I understand where they are coming from.


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Very glad that aqua is rosewood, I would have had some issues. Very cool with the pup ring delete as well, the guitars look great.

I will be honest though, there are still plenty of the USA ones floating around that can be had for less than the new Japan series and that is where I would go. I knew it when the EVH japan models came out that it was official regarding the charvel stuff. I have nothing against japan made guitars, still love Ibanez but for me it is a history thing.

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Since I bought my Charvel from "chubtone"
I haven't put it down,I've played it every single day.
On that note,I dig the "aqua" colored Japanese Charvel pro mod.looks sweet!

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locoed wrote:
Since I bought my Charvel from "chubtone"
I haven't put it down,I've played it every single day.
On that note,I dig the "aqua" colored Japanese Charvel pro mod.looks sweet!


I love my candy green SoCal. I wish that it had the San Dimas pickup set in it but everything else is great. I have a Tone Zone for sale if anyone wants it.


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Getting fun...

http://www.jcfonline.com/threads/109692 ... Mod-Series

Typical whining at JCF, but it seems that everyone there thinks Charvel is only making the guitar THEY want. Seems to me Charvel started as custom guitars. I'm sure they'll make you anything you want, but for a sub-$1000 guitar of this quality, kwitcherbichin. You get what they can give you. Seems like a pretty nice axe IMO. Since the necks are the same, that's my only concern. I can buy them and mod the hell out of it if need be - make it my own CUSTOM guitar. Just the way Charvel intended. :D

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Chris O wrote:
Getting fun...

http://www.jcfonline.com/threads/109692 ... Mod-Series

Typical whining at JCF, but it seems that everyone there thinks Charvel is only making the guitar THEY want. Seems to me Charvel started as custom guitars. I'm sure they'll make you anything you want, but for a sub-$1000 guitar of this quality, kwitcherbichin. You get what they can give you. Seems like a pretty nice axe IMO. Since the necks are the same, that's my only concern. I can buy them and mod the hell out of it if need be - make it my own CUSTOM guitar. Just the way Charvel intended. :D


Dude, exactly! It just cracks me up, guys saying "I wish it had pickup rings, if it did i would buy it". And I'm just laughing myself silly. "Yeah, I wish it had GHS strings on it instead of D'Addario. If it had GHS i would totally buy it."

Pickup rings are about $3 each. :hys: It's a freaking Charvel it's a modding and hot rodding PLATFORM not some vintage axe that you can't change a screw on or it's value will plummet. :doh: :doh:


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so does this mean there will be a white charvel san dimas ?? i looked everywhere for an american one and couldnt find it. i dont mind having something made in japan if it plays good and is the color i want :D

edit:: anyone know when the wolfgang specials will be available?? i may want one of those since the peavey versions seem to have gone through the freakin roof for some damn reason

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I've got no problem with it being Japanese, one of my favorite and long-term keepers is a MIJ Fender HM Strat. I'm liking that snow white San Dimas...

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The white one will be the ultimate canvas! Personally, I'm pretty stoked for both Charvel USA and Japan. I'm excited for what will be coming from SanDimas /Corona, and I'm sure Japan will do an amazing job on the new Pro Mods if the old Model Series is any testament to the quality of what they can do.

As before, leave that AWESOME neck just as it is, and they will continue to sell themselves. That's the reason for buying these in the first place! :)

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Chris O wrote:
Getting fun...

http://www.jcfonline.com/threads/109692 ... Mod-Series

Typical whining at JCF, but it seems that everyone there thinks Charvel is only making the guitar THEY want. Seems to me Charvel started as custom guitars. I'm sure they'll make you anything you want, but for a sub-$1000 guitar of this quality, kwitcherbichin. You get what they can give you. Seems like a pretty nice axe IMO. Since the necks are the same, that's my only concern. I can buy them and mod the hell out of it if need be - make it my own CUSTOM guitar. Just the way Charvel intended. :D


All sites like that are the same, Jemsite is zealot in status and rival TGP when it comes to witchcraft and mystic powers concerning their brand.

That white san dimas is the balls and will think about that and have some narly 80s paint shot on it.

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I'm looking forward to seeing decent pics of that Dead Calm Aqua... might have to buy one of those and swap the neck for a maple board :D


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All of these, including the deal calm aqua and the previous USA models come with a block heel. None of them are like the late 80's/90's heel contour correct? Also, the Floyd's are not recessed either right (except for it looks like the aqua)? Straighten me out on this. Thanks!

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I'm looking forward to seeing decent pics of that Dead Calm Aqua... might have to buy one of those and swap the neck for a maple board :D


Look at that JCF link I posted. I think there are some good pics on page 2 or 3.

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All of these, including the deal calm aqua and the previous USA models come with a block heel. None of them are like the late 80's/90's heel contour correct? Also, the Floyd's are not recessed either right (except for it looks like the aqua)? Straighten me out on this. Thanks!


Yes, and yes. The Dead Calm is the first with a recessed trem.

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All of these, including the deal calm aqua and the previous USA models come with a block heel. None of them are like the late 80's/90's heel contour correct? Also, the Floyd's are not recessed either right (except for it looks like the aqua)? Straighten me out on this. Thanks!


Block heel and non-recessed :)

Wildcard is recessed.

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Digital Jams wrote:
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Getting fun...

http://www.jcfonline.com/threads/109692 ... Mod-Series

Typical whining at JCF, but it seems that everyone there thinks Charvel is only making the guitar THEY want. Seems to me Charvel started as custom guitars. I'm sure they'll make you anything you want, but for a sub-$1000 guitar of this quality, kwitcherbichin. You get what they can give you. Seems like a pretty nice axe IMO. Since the necks are the same, that's my only concern. I can buy them and mod the hell out of it if need be - make it my own CUSTOM guitar. Just the way Charvel intended. :D


All sites like that are the same, Jemsite is zealot in status and rival TGP when it comes to witchcraft and mystic powers concerning their brand.

That white san dimas is the balls and will think about that and have some narly 80s paint shot on it.

I'd like a white San Dimas...to get my chisels, sandpaper and keys out and relic it right.


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Can you set them up to at least flutter without shimming the neck?

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I've got no problem with it being Japanese, one of my favorite and long-term keepers is a MIJ Fender HM Strat. I'm liking that snow white San Dimas...


I agree.. Also one of my favorite long term keepers is a MIJ Fender HRR strat. I would love to have that white so-cal to go with my white San Dimas Style 1 :yes:

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I'm looking forward to seeing decent pics of that Dead Calm Aqua... might have to buy one of those and swap the neck for a maple board :D


Look at that JCF link I posted. I think there are some good pics on page 2 or 3.


Thanks. That does look pretty awesome :thumbsup:


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http://www.jcfonline.com/threads/109692 ... Mod-Series

Typical whining at JCF, but it seems that everyone there thinks Charvel is only making the guitar THEY want. Seems to me Charvel started as custom guitars. I'm sure they'll make you anything you want, but for a sub-$1000 guitar of this quality, kwitcherbichin. You get what they can give you. Seems like a pretty nice axe IMO. Since the necks are the same, that's my only concern. I can buy them and mod the hell out of it if need be - make it my own CUSTOM guitar. Just the way Charvel intended. :D


All sites like that are the same, Jemsite is zealot in status and rival TGP when it comes to witchcraft and mystic powers concerning their brand.

That white san dimas is the balls and will think about that and have some narly 80s paint shot on it.

I'd like a white San Dimas...to get my chisels, sandpaper and keys out and relic it right.


The JCF forum would not like you, charvels are suppost to pose for pretty forum pictures and hang in cases and NEVER played :lol: :LOL:

You have a good idea :yes:

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Digital Jams wrote:
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Getting fun...

http://www.jcfonline.com/threads/109692 ... Mod-Series

Typical whining at JCF, but it seems that everyone there thinks Charvel is only making the guitar THEY want. Seems to me Charvel started as custom guitars. I'm sure they'll make you anything you want, but for a sub-$1000 guitar of this quality, kwitcherbichin. You get what they can give you. Seems like a pretty nice axe IMO. Since the necks are the same, that's my only concern. I can buy them and mod the hell out of it if need be - make it my own CUSTOM guitar. Just the way Charvel intended. :D


All sites like that are the same, Jemsite is zealot in status and rival TGP when it comes to witchcraft and mystic powers concerning their brand.

That white san dimas is the balls and will think about that and have some narly 80s paint shot on it.

I'd like a white San Dimas...to get my chisels, sandpaper and keys out and relic it right.


The JCF forum would not like you, charvels are suppost to pose for pretty forum pictures and hang in cases and NEVER played :lol: :LOL:

You have a good idea :yes:
I relicd one of my strats, and recently picked up a road worn tele...I love these beat up axes. A white Japanese Charvel will be good to go. :thumbsup:
Don't have the guts to trash my USA Charvels, that was a limited edition run.

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That white does look very cool, $900 for a real floyd, duncans, hsc..............great times we live in.

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Are you kidding me? 9 bills with a HSC?!?!?! :shocked: :cheers: :cheers2:

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Can you set them up to at least flutter without shimming the neck?


There is a little pull up with them stock. No worries.

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That white does look very cool, $900 for a real floyd, duncans, hsc..............great times we live in.


$900 is what the USA's should have cost, $1099 if they came with an OFR instead of the Ping made one. Since I paid $800 for my SoCal brand new on a local close-out, I don't feel too bad about the Korean Floyd.

Good prices on these, I have too many guitars now though.... :lol: :LOL:

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That white does look very cool, $900 for a real floyd, duncans, hsc..............great times we live in.


$900 is what the USA's should have cost, $1099 if they came with an OFR instead of the Ping made one. Since I paid $800 for my SoCal brand new on a local close-out, I don't feel too bad about the Korean Floyd.

Good prices on these, I have too many guitars now though.... :lol: :LOL:


The real question is wtf is up with Ibanez prices! If Fender can sell these for $899 then why are RG3550s $1500?!?!?!?!?!?

The biggest bar abusers I know have zero problems with the stock floyd, good enough for me.

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That will be my next guitar!!!

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I wish they would move the truss adjustment to the headstock....that kept me from buying a USA...nitpicky yes..but MI weather and oil finished necks aren't the greatest match...


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Grrr...I'm not into the "go offshore" to shave a few hundy off the price thing. Even if "offshore" is Japan, which we all know the Japanese factories can build great guitars. But damn. My kids already think that nothing is actually "made" - things just grow on the vine at Walmart. If it breaks? Throw it out and buy a new one. :doh: :doh: :doh:

But yes, the white one is dead sexy.

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I wish they would move the truss adjustment to the headstock....that kept me from buying a USA...nitpicky yes..but MI weather and oil finished necks aren't the greatest match...


it looks like the truss rod adjustment is on the headstock ??? or at least i thought thats what the hole was for :confused:

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I wish they would move the truss adjustment to the headstock....that kept me from buying a USA...nitpicky yes..but MI weather and oil finished necks aren't the greatest match...

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I'm in the midwest which has basically turned to Florida this summer with all of the humidity we've had, and I usually have to do truss rod adjustments at least 2 or three times a year even on my painted/ sealed neck guitars.
Anyone know what the upcharge would be to have the adjustment moved to the headstock on a custom shop order?
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I wish they would move the truss adjustment to the headstock....that kept me from buying a USA...nitpicky yes..but MI weather and oil finished necks aren't the greatest match...

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I'm in the midwest which has basically turned to Florida this summer with all of the humidity we've had, and I usually have to do truss rod adjustments at least 2 or three times a year even on my painted/ sealed neck guitars.
Anyone know what the upcharge would be to have the adjustment moved to the headstock on a custom shop order?
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I don't think that is an option unless you get a pointy, but you can ask for the adjustment wheel/cutout like on the DiMartini Snakeskin model. My custom shop has that and make it so you don't have to take the neck off to adjust the truss rod. I wish all the custom shops came that way...

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Thanks for the info Steve.
I know I'm being really picky here, but I'm really not a fan of the way the cutout makes the fretboard look.
Is there some sort of advantage to having the adjustment at the heel that I'm missing? I really don't get why they would have it located there. :confused:

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What Steve said is correct about the truss rod adjust. If you go custom shop, you can get the adjustment wheel like on the Music Man guitars. There is a reason based on the construction and type of truss rod that prohibits Charvel putting the adjustment at the headstock on the strat heads.

And personally, I've been surprised at the amount of people who don't like the looks of that truss rod adjustment wheel at the heel of the neck. There's lots of guys on the Charvel forum who wouldn't touch a guitar with that and me, I just play the darn things. :confused:


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I think the wheel rocks, very easy to get to and I am more busy looking at the headstock while playing than where the 23rd fret would be.

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that's because it's gay looking, I didn't like it at all on the Ernie Ball Axis I had besides the body looking like a tennis racket and the neck feeling like a baseball bat.



Other than that was it a pretty cool guitar?

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And personally, I've been surprised at the amount of people who don't like the looks of that truss rod adjustment wheel at the heel of the neck. There's lots of guys on the Charvel forum who wouldn't touch a guitar with that and me, I just play the darn things. :confused:


that's because it's gay looking, I didn't like it at all on the Ernie Ball Axis I had besides the body looking like a tennis racket and the neck feeling like a baseball bat.


But let's face it the Ernie Balls are KILLER guitars but they fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down.


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that's because it's gay looking, I didn't like it at all on the Ernie Ball Axis I had besides the body looking like a tennis racket and the neck feeling like a baseball bat.





Other than that was it a pretty cool guitar?


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I wanted to buy so many of those promods, but I always thought they were way over priced.

I figured MAP was $999 (originally), and I was going to score several for $500-$600. :lol: :LOL: Of course that was not how the pricing was set up, and so even at a realistic discount, I could not justify the cost.

For $1000 street, you should have received a real Floyd, Gotohs, and a case.

I will buy some on the used market I figure, and then tweak the way I want.

Now this whole moving production to Japan has me wondering why considering the yen. I have no problem with MIJ guitars of course, but I don't think Charvel fans (at least I don't) want "Made in Japan" on their headstock.

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I wish they would move the truss adjustment to the headstock....that kept me from buying a USA...nitpicky yes..but MI weather and oil finished necks aren't the greatest match...


it looks like the truss rod adjustment is on the headstock ??? or at least i thought thats what the hole was for :confused:


Can anyone confirm this? I thought it was too? :confused:


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Truss rod adjustment is at the heel. That is just a plug you're seeing.

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And personally, I've been surprised at the amount of people who don't like the looks of that truss rod adjustment wheel at the heel of the neck. There's lots of guys on the Charvel forum who wouldn't touch a guitar with that and me, I just play the darn things. :confused:


that's because it's gay looking, I didn't like it at all on the Ernie Ball Axis I had besides the body looking like a tennis racket and the neck feeling like a baseball bat.


But let's face it the Ernie Balls are KILLER guitars but they fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down.

:lol: :LOL: It's funny 'cause it's true :yes: The Ernie Balls do play great though, as do the Charvels. The wheel adjustment is handy, but since I'm ugly, and a lousy player, the way my guitar looks is important! :D

Chubtone, obviously you know your shit, so I'm not questioning your statement about Charvel not being able to do a headstock truss adjustment, but I would be interested in hearing the reasons behind it in detail. I noticed that the newer Fender Strat Deluxe models are supposed to have a Charvel type radius and profile, but I'm pretty sure the truss adjustment is still at the headstock. So I'm wondering what the differences in construction are between the two necks.

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I don't see what the big deal is with the wheel adjustment. :confused:

It doesn't change the cosmetics that much and it serves a great purpose - very functional...

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Steve,

Cause function follows form around here. Thank god these guys do not design bridges.


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Yeah that is pretty sweet even with the wheel. I still like your new dark blue Charvel the best though Steve :thumbsup:

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