Celestion G12H-150 Redback

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What's the point? G12H100s and K100s have more than enough headroom and stiffness.

Is someone out there running a Triple Recto into a 1x12 cab?
 
Why did Jake E Lee and Zakk Wylde use EVs ? 4 of them make an 800 watt cab.
 
Snave":j4q5na84 said:
What's the point? G12H100s and K100s have more than enough headroom and stiffness.

Is someone out there running a Triple Recto into a 1x12 cab?

Well I think it could come in handy in a few scenarios. .. guy at a club playing with his metal band and small recording setup at home where mic'ing one speaker rather than 4 will help keep noise down a bit. I record a 50 watter with one 65 watt speaker. Same sort of deal.
 
paulyc":7d3g6gzv said:
Why did Jake E Lee and Zakk Wylde use EVs ? 4 of them make an 800 watt cab.

AND those speakers are 24lbs each! Those 4x12's loaded with them are a bear to haul around.
 
Don't just think of it as just being yet another speaker that handles high wattage. A few people I trust, including a pro player, say this is the best Celestion they have ever played. My one friend replaced all his speakers with the Red Back. Reports say it has amazing tone, very warm high yet incredible detail, the tightest speaker they make too. Apparently, similar to an H75, with warmer highs. Apparently, the thickest muds you will find in a Celestion, and somehow the speaker does not feel stiff...feels more laid back like the Creamback M65 or similar M speaker.
 
danyeo":3a1xajs3 said:
paulyc":3a1xajs3 said:
Why did Jake E Lee and Zakk Wylde use EVs ? 4 of them make an 800 watt cab.

AND those speakers are 24lbs each! Those 4x12's loaded with them are a bear to haul around.
I have an EV loaded 4x12, and an Emminence Super V (Lynch) loaded 4x12...VERY heavy
 
richedie":2qibin67 said:
Don't just think of it as just being yet another speaker that handles high wattage. A few people I trust, including a pro player, say this is the best Celestion they have ever played. My one friend replaced all his speakers with the Red Back. Reports say it has amazing tone, very warm high yet incredible detail, the tightest speaker they make too. Apparently, similar to an H75, with warmer highs. Apparently, the thickest muds you will find in a Celestion, and somehow the speaker does not feel stiff...feels more laid back like the Creamback M65 or similar M speaker.

Meh. There are hundreds of speaker choices out there. Get one and just be happy, dude. Next year, Celestion will release another new model and you'll sell your left testi to get that one too. But it won't make a difference in the grand scheme of things. If it "sounds like an H75" then just get an H75. If it "sounds like an M65" then just get an M65. If you want less treble than one or more mids than the other, reach over and turn the nobs on your amp instead of emptying your bank account. Seems a lot easier to me.
 
The Celestion IR of the Redback sounds a little bit dark to my taste. Haven't heard the actual speaker though.
 
I guess what's old is new again. Celestion had this speaker in the eighties called the G12S-Sidewinder 150 watts. It had a cast aluminum frame like the EV's. I had one in my 75 watt Marshall SS combo back in the 80's. I really don't remember a lot about it really, supposedly the old ones are revered by some players. I removed and sold mine a long time ago when I converted the combo to a tube amp project which has a 12G65 reissue in it now which I really like.
 
harddriver":290yz2mh said:
I guess what's old is new again. Celestion had this speaker in the eighties called the G12S-Sidewinder 150 watts. It had a cast aluminum frame like the EV's. I had one in my 75 watt Marshall SS combo back in the 80's. I really don't remember a lot about it really, supposedly the old ones are revered by some players. I removed and sold mine a long time ago when I converted the combo to a tube amp project which has a 12G65 reissue in it now which I really like.

Had a Celestion Sidewinder in a Mesa Boogie 3/4 closed back 1x12. Killer. Used w/ Komet and Blockhead amps.
 
harddriver":149tnxfe said:
I guess what's old is new again. Celestion had this speaker in the eighties called the G12S-Sidewinder 150 watts. It had a cast aluminum frame like the EV's. I had one in my 75 watt Marshall SS combo back in the 80's. I really don't remember a lot about it really, supposedly the old ones are revered by some players. I removed and sold mine a long time ago when I converted the combo to a tube amp project which has a 12G65 reissue in it now which I really like.

Is that the same Celestion they put in the old 100w Master and NMV Marshall combos in the 70s? That was an ugly sounding speaker. 150w I believe.
 
I don't know what they put in the 100W combo's in the 70's... The 75 Watt S/S combo runs were around 1984-85 when I bought mine, the sidewinder I lump into the EVM12 family, very clean punchy speaker it had a large dustcap like a G1265 and a vent on the back of the magnet, it was well built with the cast aluminum frame versus the stamped steel frames. I don't remember hating it... but I never put in into anything else and eventually sold it on ebay. I don't even remember what I got for it either.

I loved that 75 watt 1-12 combo it was loud as hell and sounded great for S/S I would take it to jam sessions and it could bury a halfstack, other guitars players would just look like I can't believe the F'n little amp is that loud, sadly the amp burned up around 1994 and then had intermittent problems. I tried getting fixeda few times but it never recovered. Around 2005 I gutted the chassis and made it a single ended JMP tube amp been playing it ever since and settled on the G1265 reissue, love that speaker in the combo.

I would worry about that big honkin' magnet on a stamped steel frame the redback has, maybe the frames are thicker for them. I had a cabinet shipped to me once that had H-30's in it and two of the four magnets sheared off the frames due to blunt force trauma the cabinet received. :thumbsdown:
 
What's up fellas? I just started using the Redback IR. It is a bit darker but eq changes help for recording just fine for my tastes.

2 short clips, little over a minute and change.



https://youtu.be/YgO7Q5QalP4
 
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