Finally going to test drive an Eventide Pitchfactor any tips on setting it up? EVH FW Balance setup

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I came across an Eventide pitchfactor for a good price so I snagged it, I'm excited to hear actual Eventide 910/949 harmonizer tone compared to my old boss PS-5 's which have served me well but I wanted to hear an Eventide so I finally scratched that itch...........:p

Are they difficult to program and navigate the menus?
 
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Not really, if you are familiar with the detune concept or have used a real/plugin Eventide Harmonizer.

I've had the PitchFactor for a handful of years now and it kicks ass, but I'm using it strictly as a home studio effect (line level ins/outs).

I will pipe out whatever guitar track, etc to it and record the return.

It does the Eddie thing great.

My clip in the Panama tone thread used it:

 
For what it´s worth the Balance era is a H3000. The Pitchfactor is fine to work with as long as you keep the manual around for a few minutes first.

The thing with the detune effect (coming from any unit) is to stagger both the pitch and delay. Hard pan left and right. One side up a certain amount, one side down about the corresponding amount, more delay on one side than the other. That´s the basic recipe for EVH, Luke, Landau and all the rest with just slight variations. Experiment from about 5 cent to 13 cent shift and delays from none to maybe 30ms as long as it doesn´t sound like a separate slapback/echo effect. No feedback on either side, and not really worth trying in mono.
 
+/-9 cents sticks in my mind - one side half the delay time of the other
 
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Not really, if you are familiar with the detune concept or have used a real/plugin Eventide Harmonizer.

I've had the PitchFactor for a handful of years now and it kicks ass, but I'm using it strictly as a home studio effect (line level ins/outs).

I will pipe out whatever guitar track, etc to it and record the return.

It does the Eddie thing great.

My clip in the Panama tone thread used it:

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dude that sounded killer!!! great Panama tone!!!!
 
I am familiar with the cent and predelay parameter settings to attain the detune but I do appreciate your input on the settings.

I was mostly interested in previous users experience with navigating and saved those parameters to build saved settings within the Pitchfactor regarding it ease of use.
 
I see the pitchfactor has a micropitch setting which I assume is from the H3000 algorithms. I according to my information Ed used the H3000 for FUCK and Balance.
 
harddriver said:
I am familiar with the cent and predelay parameter settings to attain the detune but I do appreciate your input on the settings.

I was mostly interested in previous users experience with navigating and saved those parameters to build saved settings within the Pitchfactor regarding it ease of use.
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Yep - you can save your patches to the unit itself (2 banks of 50 IIRC) and recall via footswitches, or save to your PC (you can connect the unit to your computer via USB and use the "H9 Control" software to tweak all parameters).
 
harddriver said:
I am familiar with the cent and predelay parameter settings to attain the detune but I do appreciate your input on the settings.

I was mostly interested in previous users experience with navigating and saved those parameters to build saved settings within the Pitchfactor regarding it ease of use.
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Do you have a mixer? And can you run W/D? If not, I really think it's a big part of the 1984 through OU812 sound, which is H910 and/or H949 mixed W/D.

You can set the Pitchfactor on channel A set to .999 and 100% mix, then blend that signal on a mixer to taste (for instance 1984 I'd mix at ~55% while OU812 more like ~70%.)

So left side dry, wet side H910 to taste. I tell you what, that is a FAT sound right there, much different than the Balance FUCK stuff which is the micropitch +- 9 cents on either side W/D/W + ping pong delays. The 910/949 sound is much more organic and analog sounding, very hi fi, where the micropitch is pure digital (every bit as cool, just way different).

Great thing about the pitchfactor is that it does both sounds in spades.
 
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Do you have a mixer? And can you run W/D? If not, I really think it's a big part of the 1984 through OU812 sound, which is H910 and/or H949 mixed W/D.

You can set the Pitchfactor on channel A set to .999 and 100% mix, then blend that signal on a mixer to taste (for instance 1984 I'd mix at ~55% while OU812 more like ~70%.)

So left side dry, wet side H910 to taste. I tell you what, that is a FAT sound right there, much different than the Balance FUCK stuff which is the micropitch +- 9 cents on either side W/D/W + ping pong delays. The 910/949 sound is much more organic and analog sounding, very hi fi, where the micropitch is pure digital (every bit as cool, just way different).

Great thing about the pitchfactor is that it does both sounds in spades.
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Yes I have a W/D/W setup that feeds a Matrix GT1000FX for the wet channels. I will be using the mix knob on the pitchfactor to set the amount of Wet or dry in the wet channels.

I have heard that using a minimixer is the way to go is setting the effect to 100% wet then using a mixer after the pitchfactor to mix in the 100% wet signal in parallel with the dry sound, ACEV on here does that and I know a few other Edheads do as well. I will go with the mix knob on the pitchfactor for now maybe do the mini mixer thing later. My Boss PS-5 are set to 50% wet/dry mix.

Thanks for your suggestions... I am excited to finally hear the Eventide compared to my Boss PS-5's. I'm sure the actual Eventide 910/949 is more analog and organic but I think the Pitchfactor should scratch the itch I have had since the Pitchfactor came out.
 
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My Pitchfactor just arrived...:p I'm using a SUhr Iso line out for the line level signal tap.

Which line level setting should I use on the Pitchfactor...the guitar level or the line level selection toggle switch on the back? Eventide has both for the input level and output level... guitar level/line level.

I'm going to guess I should use the guitar level selection since my boss work just fine with the signal level from the suhr iso line out. I won't be able to plug it in until later and start messing with it.
 
harddriver said:
My Pitchfactor just arrived... I'm using a SUhr Iso line out for the line level signal tap.

Which line level setting should I use on the Pitchfactor...the guitar level or the line level selection toggle switch on the back?
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well if you're tapping your amp with a suhr iso line out (I have one of those too - awesome stuff), go line level in (mono)

don't know what gear is coming after the pitchfactor but it'd better have stereo connections.

the ouput has guitar/line level switch too - use accordingly.
 
Opps... I forgot to mention I will be using one Boss PS-5 to split the single mono signal into separate stereo L and R signals(output A/B) the PS-5 pedal has two sets of jacks for this purpose so I will be using inputs 1 and 2 not just the mono input 1.

From the Pitchfactor output 1 and 2 into my Boss DD-500 inputs 1 and 2(stereo).
 
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Opps... I forgot to mention I will be using one Boss PS-5 to split the single mono signal into separate stereo L and R signals(output A/B) the PS-5 pedal has two sets of jacks for this purpose so I will be using inputs 1 and 2 not just the mono input 1.

From the Pitchfactor output 1 and 2 into my Boss DD-500 inputs 1 and 2(stereo).
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Why split your mono amp signal vs have the pitchfactor be the split?

or am i missing something
 
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Prolly don't need to split before the Pitchfactor; it will take a mono signal in and make it true stereo out.

Prolly don't need the BOSS DD-500 after the Pitchfactor as it has stereo delays.
 
If you use the pitchfactor to split your dry, you’ll have more of the pitchfactor DACs colouring your dry tone than if you split your dry signal first externally and mix the pitchfactor with the dry with a mixer while running it 100% wet. Allows you to taylor what DAC you want to use if any to colour the split signal.
 
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If you use the pitchfactor to split your dry, you’ll have more of the pitchfactor DACs colouring your dry tone than if you split your dry signal first externally and mix the pitchfactor with the dry with a mixer while running it 100% wet. Allows you to taylor what DAC you want to use if any to colour the split signal.
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if he is splitting to take the dry separately into a mixer that is true - but i read he was splitting and going stereo into the PF
 
harddriver said:
I came across an Eventide pitchfactor for a good price so I snagged it, I'm excited to hear actual Eventide 910/949 harmonizer tone compared to my old boss PS-5 's which have served me well but I wanted to hear an Eventide so I finally scratched that itch...........:p

Are they difficult to program and navigate the menus?
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PitchFactor kicks all kinds of ass - and is HIGHLY capable of so much more than just pitch-shifting. I actually found my ModFactor almost redundant after I fully dove into the PF's capabilities.

LOTS of YT vids out there on the PF, some direct from Eventide, others just dedicated Eventide fan channels - it'll get you whatever sound you want, and as for the EVH tone, easy. Run through this cats YT channels - he covers a great range of the PF. It really is one incredibly powerful pedal, more like a "studio rack effects system" than a pedal.

 
lll said:
Prolly don't need to split before the Pitchfactor; it will take a mono signal in and make it true stereo out.

Prolly don't need the BOSS DD-500 after the Pitchfactor as it has stereo delays.
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I wasn't aware the pitchfactor could take a mono signal in then split it two the two output jacks 1 and 2 so that's cool if it does. I thought I needed to input an already split signal into the 1 and 2 inputs for stereo channels o that's great information to know, THX!

I also wasn't aware that the pitch factor could do micropitch detune and delay at the same time, I read on VHlinks that the PF could only do one effect at a time.

I really like my SDE3000 and echoplex models in my DD500 so I probably will just run the pitchfactor for the micropitch and detune. Again thanks for the info from all you guys, it is very much appreciated. All you guys at RT are such a great resource.
 
Bronco said:
Do you have a mixer? And can you run W/D? If not, I really think it's a big part of the 1984 through OU812 sound, which is H910 and/or H949 mixed W/D.

You can set the Pitchfactor on channel A set to .999 and 100% mix, then blend that signal on a mixer to taste (for instance 1984 I'd mix at ~55% while OU812 more like ~70%.)

So left side dry, wet side H910 to taste. I tell you what, that is a FAT sound right there, much different than the Balance FUCK stuff which is the micropitch +- 9 cents on either side W/D/W + ping pong delays. The 910/949 sound is much more organic and analog sounding, very hi fi, where the micropitch is pure digital (every bit as cool, just way different).

Great thing about the pitchfactor is that it does both sounds in spades.
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Yeah I think I'm going to like the 910/949 models for my VHII ,Fair Warning, Diver Down, 1984 tones, I agree the 910/949 detune is more organic and subtle sounding versus micropitch algorithms from the H3000.

I am excited to hear finally hear all the nuances of a real Eventide!:D
 
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