RHOADS

[Mark Skid]

Fr todays mainstream is sad . Once mtv stopped playing rock mainstream kids downt know what rock is unless parents show them . As a guitar teacher this problem blows.. these kids don’t know songs with any guitar period

Pop and cultural art has been hijacked by digital technology. The internet (combined with social media) has made it possible for everyone to become a "star", regardless of talent and ability. It's an eminence front.

 

[Mark Skid]

Rhoads gave us double-tracking and panning techniques in the studio mix. He had a talent for repeating a riff exactly the same as what had just been recorded. He was playing gigs to pay for his planned transition to a university for a Ph.D. in guitar music. Told Ozzy he was going to quit gigging and that if Ozzy didn't stop drinking he would kill himself.

I read "I am Ozzy". Great book. A+. I also read Iommi's "Iron Man". Both are essential books IMO.

It was actually Mick Ronson who came-up with the double-tracking. Mick was a huge influence on me, so I immediately recognized his influence on Randy's playing. The Rise And Fall Of Ziggy Stardust is my all-time favorite pop album.



Luther Grosvenor was one of Randy's favorite composers. To my ears, Bowie's "Moonage Daydream" and Grosvenor's "Waiting" were hugely influential on Randy's "Diary Of A Madman" composition. Not directly, maybe, but the influence of both are clearly evident.

 

[Racerxrated]

I remember exactly where I was, and what I was doing when I heard about the plane crash. At my grandparents in St Paul, age 14 listening to KQ92 rock radio. I was crushed; even more than EVH I was a huge fan of Randy. They were supposed to come to St Paul later that year on tour. I refused to buy BATM; but eventually got over it and bought Ultimate Sin. I learned most of Randy’s solo on Tribute…couldn’t play all of it of course.
Such a damn waste, that crash.

 

[Kapo_Polenton]

On Ozzy Osbourne... Ozzy may be toast now, but, he was an accomplished song writer. Without Ozzy's melodies, those songs would never have existed. Same goes with his work with Black Sabbath. For all of his antics, he was lucid and intelligent. Even if he didn't actually write his own lyrics (as some have said), he wrote the melody to all those songs. An incredible body of work to say the least.

Agree. Sum of all parts really and as much as we bag on him, Ozzy did have talent.

 

[Techdeth]

Pop and cultural art has been hijacked by digital technology. The internet (combined with social media) has made it possible for everyone to become a "star", regardless of talent and ability. It's an eminence front.

I agree 100 percent

 

[Kapo_Polenton]

It was actually Mick Ronson who came-up with the double-tracking. Mick was a huge influence on me, so I immediately recognized his influence on Randy's playing. The Rise And Fall Of Ziggy Stardust is my all-time favorite pop album.



Luther Grosvenor was one of Randy's favorite composers. To my ears, Bowie's "Moonage Daydream" and Grosvenor's "Waiting" were hugely influential on Randy's "Diary Of A Madman" composition. Not directly, maybe, but the influence of both are clearly evident.

I can hear it for sure...but who was Ronson's tech? He sure wasn't fan of tuning clearly. Those guitars sound like shit because of that tuning. ( wah filter aside) much prefer Racer X's cover of that last one.

 

[thegame]

I can't think of anyone in the hard rock/metal world that was taken too soon more than RR. That live compilation clip posted earlier demonstrates that even without his studio magic of double/triple tracking his parts (no easy feat in itself) just how haunting and evocative his playing was. That stuff gives me shivers.

 

[jabps]

Many guitarists from the 60s, 70s and 80s made me wanna play guitar.

Randy Rhoads made me wanna take playing guitar "seriously".

Same. I had already been playing for a few years. Was quite content to be the rhythm player, secondary lead in my band.

When I first heard Randy, it all clicked for me. It was immediate, that is what I've been waiting on. I soaked it all up. Then Adrian Vandenberg hit, Sykes, Campbell, Lynch.

Needless to say for 30 years of playing afterward I never shared guitar duties again. Only until my last band did I play with another guitarist.

 

[jabps]

On Ozzy Osbourne... Ozzy may be toast now, but, he was an accomplished song writer. Without Ozzy's melodies, those songs would never have existed. Same goes with his work with Black Sabbath. For all of his antics, he was lucid and intelligent. Even if he didn't actually write his own lyrics (as some have said), he wrote the melody to all those songs. An incredible body of work to say the least.

I don't think we'll ever really know just how much Ozzy contributed. We do know that Bob wrote the majority of lyrics. And we do know that Ozzy helped at least some with melodies per Randy. Maybe had Sharon and Ozzy not been so greedy we'd know alot more. And there was plenty to go around to Bob and Jake etc... I have no doubt had Randy not passed, they would have screwed him over as well.

 

[jabps]

I remember exactly where I was, and what I was doing when I heard about the plane crash. At my grandparents in St Paul, age 14 listening to KQ92 rock radio. I was crushed; even more than EVH I was a huge fan of Randy. They were supposed to come to St Paul later that year on tour. I refused to buy BATM; but eventually got over it and bought Ultimate Sin. I learned most of Randy’s solo on Tribute…couldn’t play all of it of course.
Such a damn waste, that crash.

Man, I was supposed to go to his last show in Knoxville. We were all seniors in HS, the usual concert goers (friends) all backed out at the last minute because it was a 2 hour drive and we had to work the next day.

Next day after work (K-Mart no less lol) I'm driving home and the news came on. The next song was Journey's Who's Cryin Now, I'll never forget that, I was gutted.

 

[Mark Skid]

I can hear it for sure...but who was Ronson's tech? He sure wasn't fan of tuning clearly. Those guitars sound like shit because of that tuning. ( wah filter aside) much prefer Racer X's cover of that last one.

The modulating effect that you're hearing is the result of tape slippage from a WEM Copycat tape echo. We use to refer to this as "motor-chorusing". Where 80's players preferred digital exactitude, we relished in that classic unexpected nature of tape. Classic never dies. What you think sounds like shit, two generations embrace.

 

[Mark Skid]

My friend Frank attended the Blizzard show in Tampa. He said Randy looked like he'd rather be anywhere but standing next to Ozzy. Ozzy would say something to the crowd, and Randy would just shake his head. He said that Randy was especially annoyed when Ozzy picked him up.

 

[panhead]

Ozzy is a fuckn idiot.

 

[Samhain]

Randy was killed March 19th 1982. I had just finished a year deployment in the Military and came home April 1982 only to find out of Randy's death.
Wanted to see him so bad.
Randy inspired me to take guitar seriously and still inspires me every time i listen to his work.

 

[Kapo_Polenton]

The modulating effect that you're hearing is the result of tape slippage from a WEM Copycat tape echo. We use to refer to this as "motor-chorusing". Where 80's players preferred digital exactitude, we relished in that classic unexpected nature of tape. Classic never dies. What you think sounds like shit, two generations embrace.

I'm aware of the tape effect or flutter but that sounds like bad tuning to me in the beginning. The reason I say that is the rest of the chord sounds intact while that one note is off. Trust me, I'm an 80's kid and I've got a big old Ramsa boat anchor console in my studio now so I be digging the analog I just find that to be "off" and hard not to keep noticing when it plays.

 

[Kapo_Polenton]

Randy was killed March 19th 1982. I had just finished a year deployment in the Military and came home April 1982 only to find out of Randy's death.
Wanted to see him so bad.
Randy inspired me to take guitar seriously and still inspires me every time i listen to his work.

He really was a killer live player. We are lucky to have so many bootlegs on youtube now. Sadly there isn't as much video footage but where you see some, the guy was the total package. Awesome rock star performer.

 

[Mark Skid]

I'm aware of the tape effect or flutter but that sounds like bad tuning to me in the beginning. The reason I say that is the rest of the chord sounds intact while that one note is off. Trust me, I'm an 80's kid and I've got a big old Ramsa boat anchor console in my studio now so I be digging the analog I just find that to be "off" and hard not to keep noticing when it plays.

This was done intentionally. Microtonal variance (de)tuning used to be a common practice, and was often heard at the intro. It's meant to give it a slightly unpleasant feel to songs with a lyrically negative connotation. Jimi Hendrix did it on "Hear My Train A Comin'". Simon and Garfunkle's "Cecelia". Nirvana's "Something In the Way". Led Zeppelin's "Black Dog". The list is practically endless.

Ramsa...

 

[Chekers120]

Amazing stuff

 

[Samhain]